Internment of Japanese-Americans During World War II

[namvet]

Army service has always been voluntary. Those who accepted the draft law as making the choice for them chose to do so. Everyone had to step over a line and swear an oath to join the U.S. Army; no one was inducted under force. Jail was another choice perhaps, but it was a choice. Pretend otherwise as one wills.

wrong. when the form says you're 1A your ass goes to the military or jail

 

[namvet]

 

[there4eyeM]

Army service has always been voluntary. Those who accepted the draft law as making the choice for them chose to do so. Everyone had to step over a line and swear an oath to join the U.S. Army; no one was inducted under force. Jail was another choice perhaps, but it was a choice. Pretend otherwise as one wills.

wrong. when the form says you're 1A your ass goes to the military or jail

Re-read what was said! There was always a choice. Cowards who say they had to go gave away their choice. Would you rather be a murderer or a convict? Not pleasant, but a choice nonetheless.

 

[there4eyeM]

Army service has always been voluntary. Those who accepted the draft law as making the choice for them chose to do so. Everyone had to step over a line and swear an oath to join the U.S. Army; no one was inducted under force. Jail was another choice perhaps, but it was a choice. Pretend otherwise as one wills.

Your first numbskull sentence destroyed your credibility in this forum (if you ever had any) In 1964, when I entered the US Army the draft law was in effect and it was MANDATORY to go in the service if you were drafted.(not voluntary)

So, you did not have to step over a line? You did not have to take an oath?
You weren't in the U.S. Army otherwise. You pitiful creatures who don't seize your choice are rather less than human. You think your actions can be transferred to another, to the state or religion or whatever. It can't. It isn't. You are responsible and you were free to not go. You went. If you thought you did not do it voluntarily, you were only that much more a sheep than a human.

 

[Picaro]

Within days of Pearl Harbor, FBI director J. Edgar Hoover assured the U.S. Attorney General that “practically all” suspected individuals were already in custody, and there was no need for mass evacuations of Japanese for security reasons. But Lt. Gen. John L. DeWitt, head of the Western Defense Command, pushed for wholesale Japanese evacuation. “The Japanese race is an enemy race,” DeWitt wrote, “and while many second and third generation Japanese born on United States soil, possessed of United States citizenship, have become ‘Americanized,’ the racial strains are undiluted.”

West Coast congressmen also agitated for the removal of the Japanese. Los Angeles representative Leland Ford insisted that “all Japanese, whether citizens or not, be placed in concentration camps.” In the end, political pressure prevailed, and the army was empowered to force all West Coast Americans from their homes.

THE WAR . At Home . Civil Rights . Japanese Americans | PBS

And of course Hoover would never have lied to make his agency look much more effective than it actually was, and every politician thought he was he always telling them the truth.

 

[Syriusly]

We can also assess that a Muslim ban is not only legal, it is required by the Constitution’s Supremacy Clause (Article 6, Section 2, Part 1)

And by 'we' you mean the voices in your head- not any actual living breathing person.

 

[Syriusly]

Whatever you may say about the internment of Japanese-Americans, you cannot say that it had no legitimate national security function. We will never know what would have occurred, if the internment had not happened.)

Actually we really do know.

Hawaii had a much higher percentage of its population that was of Japanese descent and didn't intern its general population- it only imprisoned those actually suspected of ties with Japan. And Hawaii survived just fine after Pearl Harbor.

If Hawaii didn't have a need to intern its Japanese American population- neither did the rest of the country.

Which is why eventually this was recognized as the Constitutional disgrace that it was- even Ronald Reagan agreed and signed off on the apology for the internment camps.

 

[protectionist]

So, you did not have to step over a line? You did not have to take an oath?
You weren't in the U.S. Army otherwise. You pitiful creatures who don't seize your choice are rather less than human. You think your actions can be transferred to another, to the state or religion or whatever. It can't. It isn't. You are responsible and you were free to not go. You went. If you thought you did not do it voluntarily, you were only that much more a sheep than a human.

FALSE! Young drafted men were NOT free to not go. simple as that. If your refused, you were imprisoned. Nothing "free" about that.

So you are a sheep to enter the military rather than go to prison ? That's how you think ? Is there a doctor in the house ? I mean really.

 

[protectionist]

And by 'we' you mean the voices in your head- not any actual living breathing person.

So you deny that the Supremacy Clause - Article 6, Section 2, Part 1 (Islam not being an exception), requires the supremacy of the Constitution ? Are these words too difficult for you to comprehend ? >>>

"This Constitution, and the laws of the United States...shall be the supreme law of the land"

 

[protectionist]

Actually we really do know.

Hawaii had a much higher percentage of its population that was of Japanese descent and didn't intern its general population- it only imprisoned those actually suspected of ties with Japan. And Hawaii survived just fine after Pearl Harbor.

If Hawaii didn't have a need to intern its Japanese American population- neither did the rest of the country.

Which is why eventually this was recognized as the Constitutional disgrace that it was- even Ronald Reagan agreed and signed off on the apology for the internment camps.

FALSE! Hawaii is not the contiguous 48 states of the USA, nor was it even a state during World War II. There is only one way to know what would have occurred, if the internment had not happened in the US. That is if it had not happened, which can'r be ascertained. Hell of a nice try though. I'll give you that.

 

[Syriusly]

Actually we really do know.

Hawaii had a much higher percentage of its population that was of Japanese descent and didn't intern its general population- it only imprisoned those actually suspected of ties with Japan. And Hawaii survived just fine after Pearl Harbor.

If Hawaii didn't have a need to intern its Japanese American population- neither did the rest of the country.

Which is why eventually this was recognized as the Constitutional disgrace that it was- even Ronald Reagan agreed and signed off on the apology for the internment camps.

FALSE! Hawaii is not the contiguous 48 states of the USA, nor was it even a state during World War II. There is only one way to know what would have occurred, if the internment had not happened in the US. That is if it had not happened, which can'r be ascertained. Hell of a nice try though. I'll give you that.

Hawaii was on the front line of the war against Japan.

And Hawaii didn't intern its entire population of Japanese Americans- only those specifically identified as being sympathizer.

And Hawaii suffered no specific harm.

You can refuse to learn from history- but your denial doesn't change the facts.

 

[Syriusly]

And by 'we' you mean the voices in your head- not any actual living breathing person.

So you deny that the Supremacy Clause - Article 6, Section 2,"

I deny you idiotic interpretation of the Supremacy Clause that the voices in your head keep telling you.

 

[there4eyeM]

From Webster's dictionary:
Choice:

Act of choosing; the voluntary act of selecting or separating from two or more things that which is preferred; the determination of the mind in preferring one thing to another; election.