International Law: Jerusalem Belongs To Israel

[Sally]

Introduction

Ever ask yourself why during the 30 year period - between 1917 to 1947 - thousands of Jews throughout the world woke up one morning and decided to leave their homes and go to Palestine? The majority did this because they heard that a future national home for the Jewish people was being established in Palestine, on the basis of the League of Nations obligation under the “Mandate for Palestine” document. The “Mandate for Palestine,” an historical League of Nations document, laid down the Jewish legal right to settle anywhere in western Palestine, between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, an entitlement unaltered in international law. The “Mandate for Palestine” was not a naive vision briefly embraced by the international community. Fifty-one member countries – the entire League of Nations – unanimously declared on July 24, 1922:

“Whereas recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.”

It is important to point out that political rights to self-determination as a polity for Arabs were guaranteed by the same League of Nations in four other mandates – in Lebanon and Syria (The French Mandate), Iraq, and later Trans-Jordan [The British Mandate].

Any attempt to negate the Jewish people’s right to Palestine - Eretz-Israel, and to deny them access and control in the area designated for the Jewish people by the League of Nations is a serious infringement of international law.

I've told you this 1,000 times, you dumb Nazionist. The Jews can't claim the promises of the Balfour Declaration, San Remo Conference, and Palestine Mandate are still effective and at the same time ignore the protections for non-Jews in Palestine. The same goes for Jerusalem.

I know dishonesty and lies is the Nazionist way, but try not to make it so obvious.

2 million Arab Muslims living inside Israel as Israeli citizens with full rights isn't protection enough? Just how do Muslims "protect" their Jewish citizens? By tortring, killing, and stealing from them, the IslamoNazi way.

Oh, Roudy, I have to laugh when IT gets up on step and says that IT " knows dishonesytly and lies in the Nazionist way." Does anyone think this Islamofascist Victory is going to tell the truth? However, with IT'S B.S., at least it is not a matter of life or death to any of the other posters so we can just chuckle at IT. Right now there are too few Jews for these Muslims to have at so instead their target is now the Christians in the Middle East. Naturally, IT, being a good Islamofascist, has no problem with this.

 

[MJB12741]

What I don't understand is how come we haven't heard of a single Muslim Palestinian citizen of Israel who has opted to leave Israel to go live in some Arab country. Can someone please explain this?

Introduction

Ever ask yourself why during the 30 year period - between 1917 to 1947 - thousands of Jews throughout the world woke up one morning and decided to leave their homes and go to Palestine? The majority did this because they heard that a future national home for the Jewish people was being established in Palestine, on the basis of the League of Nations obligation under the “Mandate for Palestine” document. The “Mandate for Palestine,” an historical League of Nations document, laid down the Jewish legal right to settle anywhere in western Palestine, between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea, an entitlement unaltered in international law. The “Mandate for Palestine” was not a naive vision briefly embraced by the international community. Fifty-one member countries – the entire League of Nations – unanimously declared on July 24, 1922:

“Whereas recognition has been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country.”

It is important to point out that political rights to self-determination as a polity for Arabs were guaranteed by the same League of Nations in four other mandates – in Lebanon and Syria (The French Mandate), Iraq, and later Trans-Jordan [The British Mandate].

Any attempt to negate the Jewish people’s right to Palestine - Eretz-Israel, and to deny them access and control in the area designated for the Jewish people by the League of Nations is a serious infringement of international law.

I've told you this 1,000 times, you dumb Nazionist. The Jews can't claim the promises of the Balfour Declaration, San Remo Conference, and Palestine Mandate are still effective and at the same time ignore the protections for non-Jews in Palestine. The same goes for Jerusalem.

I know dishonesty and lies is the Nazionist way, but try not to make it so obvious.

2 million Arab Muslims living inside Israel as Israeli citizens with full rights isn't protection enough? Just how do Muslims "protect" their Jewish citizens? By tortring, killing, and stealing from them, the IslamoNazi way.

 

[Roudy]

I've told you this 1,000 times, you dumb Nazionist. The Jews can't claim the promises of the Balfour Declaration, San Remo Conference, and Palestine Mandate are still effective and at the same time ignore the protections for non-Jews in Palestine. The same goes for Jerusalem.

I know dishonesty and lies is the Nazionist way, but try not to make it so obvious.

2 million Arab Muslims living inside Israel as Israeli citizens with full rights isn't protection enough? Just how do Muslims "protect" their Jewish citizens? By tortring, killing, and stealing from them, the IslamoNazi way.

Oh, Roudy, I have to laugh when IT gets up on step and says that IT " knows dishonesytly and lies in the Nazionist way." Does anyone think this Islamofascist Victory is going to tell the truth? However, with IT'S B.S., at least it is not a matter of life or death to any of the other posters so we can just chuckle at IT. Right now there are too few Jews for these Muslims to have at so instead their target is now the Christians in the Middle East. Naturally, IT, being a good Islamofascist, has no problem with this.

They're all touting the same talking points from their book of lies. Jews aren't real Jews <ha ha> Jerusalem is an Arab city <ho ho> the land belonged to Palestinians <hee hee> Palestinians aren't committing terrorist acts <LOLOLOLOL> Hamas doesn't want to destroy Israel <ROFL> Islam is tolerant <LMAO>.

What else Defeat67... Oh ya, Israel was defeated in 1967 hahahahahahahahahah!

 

[Roudy]

What I don't understand is how come we haven't heard of a single Muslim Palestinian citizen of Israel who has opted to leave Israel to go live in some Arab country. Can someone please explain this?

I've told you this 1,000 times, you dumb Nazionist. The Jews can't claim the promises of the Balfour Declaration, San Remo Conference, and Palestine Mandate are still effective and at the same time ignore the protections for non-Jews in Palestine. The same goes for Jerusalem.

I know dishonesty and lies is the Nazionist way, but try not to make it so obvious.

2 million Arab Muslims living inside Israel as Israeli citizens with full rights isn't protection enough? Just how do Muslims "protect" their Jewish citizens? By tortring, killing, and stealing from them, the IslamoNazi way.

Good question. Let's see if Defeat67 has an answer for it.

 

[Victory67]

Some more:

He denies the Holocaust.
He has no real knowledge of the situation in Israel, having never been there.
He excuses Muslim atrocities, or just ignores/doesn't acknowledge them, including atrocities against his fellow "Christians".
He blames the Joos for everything, like forbidding Christmas in American public schools. (This is apparently a lesser crime than actually crucifying Christians.)
Back to you, toastman...

I have never denied the Holocaust, nor will I ever.

I am very knowledgeable about the situation in Israel/Palestine.

I never excuse Muslim atrocities.

Jews are responsible for the most important US Supreme Court cases that have killed prayer in American public schools. This is a fact.

 

[flacaltenn]

Moderation Message:

Second round of Moderator intervention here today.
We can just end this thread here, or folks can stick
to the simple rules that require TOPICAL CONTENT
in every post.

Deletions of posts are made because YOU broke the
rules. Not anyone else's fault..

flacaltenn

 

[toastman]

Some more:

He denies the Holocaust.
He has no real knowledge of the situation in Israel, having never been there.
He excuses Muslim atrocities, or just ignores/doesn't acknowledge them, including atrocities against his fellow "Christians".
He blames the Joos for everything, like forbidding Christmas in American public schools. (This is apparently a lesser crime than actually crucifying Christians.)
Back to you, toastman...

I have never denied the Holocaust, nor will I ever.

I am very knowledgeable about the situation in Israel/Palestine.

I never excuse Muslim atrocities.

Jews are responsible for the most important US Supreme Court cases that have killed prayer in American public schools. This is a fact.

Weather true or not, what does the fact that they were Jewish have to do with anything??? People like you will always notice when the person(s) in these cases is a Jew, but if it was a Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, their religion is never mentioned and in some cases neither is what they did.

 

[Kondor3]

Some more:

He denies the Holocaust.
He has no real knowledge of the situation in Israel, having never been there.
He excuses Muslim atrocities, or just ignores/doesn't acknowledge them, including atrocities against his fellow "Christians".
He blames the Joos for everything, like forbidding Christmas in American public schools. (This is apparently a lesser crime than actually crucifying Christians.)
Back to you, toastman...

I have never denied the Holocaust, nor will I ever.

I am very knowledgeable about the situation in Israel/Palestine.

I never excuse Muslim atrocities.

Jews are responsible for the most important US Supreme Court cases that have killed prayer in American public schools. This is a fact.

What does any of that have to do with whether Jerusalem belongs to Israel?

Nobody cares to hear (nor believes) your protestations of innocence.

Stay focused on the topic.

 

[Sally]

Some more:

He denies the Holocaust.
He has no real knowledge of the situation in Israel, having never been there.
He excuses Muslim atrocities, or just ignores/doesn't acknowledge them, including atrocities against his fellow "Christians".
He blames the Joos for everything, like forbidding Christmas in American public schools. (This is apparently a lesser crime than actually crucifying Christians.)
Back to you, toastman...

I have never denied the Holocaust, nor will I ever.

I am very knowledgeable about the situation in Israel/Palestine.

I never excuse Muslim atrocities.

Jews are responsible for the most important US Supreme Court cases that have killed prayer in American public schools. This is a fact.[/QUOTE

Would it be too much trouble showing us from a legitimate site that it was the Jews who have killed prayer in American public schools. All along many of us were under the impression that it was atheists such as Madeline Murray O'Hare who were responsible for that You say you never excuse Muslim atrocities; however, I don't think anyone has seen you condemning what they have done and are doing to others. It appears that practically every day there are killings of innocent people by Muslims, and yet you have been so silent in your condemnation.. In addition, if you are so concerned about people stopping prayers in our schools, why aren't you concerned with the churches the Muslims have destroyed?

 

[Billo_Really]

Most people grow up with 2 sides of their families'--father's and mother's. I never knew my dad's side of the family. The more I read of the Holocaust, the more unbelievable it becomes. Netanyahu was right when he said that if the state of Israel had existed in the 1930's-40's, the Holocaust would never have happened.

The Israeli's treat the Palestinian's, like the Nazis treated the jews.

And it's because of what the Nazis did in WWII, which is the reason East Jerusalem will never be part of Israel.

 

[Victory67]

There is no international law that says Jerusalem belongs to Israel.

No treaty is valid unless it is registered with the UN.

 

[flacaltenn]

There is no international law that says Jerusalem belongs to Israel.

No treaty is valid unless it is registered with the UN.

Oh really? So if Ireland wants to make a treaty with Botswana -- it needs UN APPROVAL???
Or if the US Senate ratifies a Nuclear Treaty with Pakistan -- they have to divulge all the sensitive intelligience that went into that decision to the UN ??? Don't think so Bunky...

 

[Victory67]

Oh really? So if Ireland wants to make a treaty with Botswana -- it needs UN APPROVAL???
Or if the US Senate ratifies a Nuclear Treaty with Pakistan -- they have to divulge all the sensitive intelligience that went into that decision to the UN ??? Don't think so Bunky...

No treaty gets any international respect or recognition, until it is registered with the UN.

and no international law or treaty gives Jerusalem to Israel.

sorry asshole.

 

[Indeependent]

Oh really? So if Ireland wants to make a treaty with Botswana -- it needs UN APPROVAL???
Or if the US Senate ratifies a Nuclear Treaty with Pakistan -- they have to divulge all the sensitive intelligience that went into that decision to the UN ??? Don't think so Bunky...

No treaty gets any international respect or recognition, until it is registered with the UN.

and no international law or treaty gives Jerusalem to Israel.

sorry asshole.

And if there's one thing a first world nation REALLY wants, it's the respect of the UN...

 

[Victory67]

Oh really? So if Ireland wants to make a treaty with Botswana -- it needs UN APPROVAL???
Or if the US Senate ratifies a Nuclear Treaty with Pakistan -- they have to divulge all the sensitive intelligience that went into that decision to the UN ??? Don't think so Bunky...

No treaty gets any international respect or recognition, until it is registered with the UN.

and no international law or treaty gives Jerusalem to Israel.

sorry asshole.

And if there's one thing a first world nation REALLY wants, it's the respect of the UN...

That's all well and good, but until an international treaty gets registered with the UN, its as good as worthless shit to me.

 

[Kondor3]

"There is no international law that says Jerusalem belongs to Israel..."

Maybe there is.

Maybe there isn't.

But it doesn't matter.

Israel holds it, and will continue to hold it.

It's theirs now.

"...No treaty is valid unless it is registered with the UN."

Really?

Was the START (Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty) - a bilateral treaty between the United States and the Soviet Union (later, reaffirmed by the Russian Federation) 'registered' at the United Nations?

What agency does one go through in order to 'register' a treaty at the UN?

What processes does one go through in order to 'register' a treaty at the UN?

When was the START treaty registered with the UN?

Anybody else in the audience care to serve-up a treaty between countries, ratified after the creation of the United Nations, that was not 'registered' at the UN?

 

[Victory67]

"There is no international law that says Jerusalem belongs to Israel..."

Maybe there is.

Maybe there isn't.

But it doesn't matter.

Which means the OP is a joke.

 

[Kondor3]

"There is no international law that says Jerusalem belongs to Israel..."

Maybe there is.

Maybe there isn't.

But it doesn't matter.

Which means the OP is a joke.

Doesn't matter to me in the slightest.

Meanwhile, answer the rest of the post...

Pertaining to the START treaty (1991-2009), if you please.

 

[Indeependent]

No treaty gets any international respect or recognition, until it is registered with the UN.

and no international law or treaty gives Jerusalem to Israel.

sorry asshole.

And if there's one thing a first world nation REALLY wants, it's the respect of the UN...

That's all well and good, but until an international treaty gets registered with the UN, its as good as worthless shit to me.

And if there's one thing a first world nation REALLY wants, it's the respect of Victory67...

 

[Victory67]

so, which is this amazing international law that says Jerusalem belongs to Israel?