Intelligence Community: On second thought, Hillary's emails did not contain top secrets

[billyerock1991]

1) Retroactively?
2) Who deemed them classified?

Are you saying she NEVER sent or received an email to/from ANY foreign official?

now this is a stupid question ...what we are saying she never sent a classified email to her private server... if the email became classified after the fact, not her problem

That's not way classified material is handled, treated or secured. Hillary was responsible for KNOWING the classification of material in ANY message that crossed her eyes. REGARDLESS of whether it bears a proper label or not. Every individual protecting a certain security class KNOWS classified info when they read it.

And as Secretary of State -- she was the one to be enforcing the proper discipline for classified material in that organization. NOT --- being an ABUSER of that system..

p.s.
we aren't talking about how classified material is handle ... the allegation is that hillary had classified material on her sever ... to date not one has turned up to be classified on her server... and you of all people can't say there is

So you're claiming she never ever contacted any foreign official thorough her email?

there isn't any regulation against her contacting a foreign official on her email ... there aren't any allegations stating she had contacted any foreign official with classified information off her private account ... and you nor the congress or the FBI has any document saying she ha is what I'm saying ... what is being implied here and in the right wing press is they believe she has... the Key word here is believe not we have found... she has just a lot of maybes, might have, or we believe, coming from the right ... I have challenged any one to show us where she has, so far just a lot of name calling and not one bit of factual evidence

 

[flacaltenn]

Well BullWinkle, there have been DOZENS of emails deemed classified on those servers. .

1) Retroactively?
2) Who deemed them classified?

Are you saying she NEVER sent or received an email to/from ANY foreign official?

now this is a stupid question ...what we are saying she never sent a classified email to her private server... if the email became classified after the fact, not her problem

That's not way classified material is handled, treated or secured. Hillary was responsible for KNOWING the classification of material in ANY message that crossed her eyes. REGARDLESS of whether it bears a proper label or not. Every individual protecting a certain security class KNOWS classified info when they read it.

And as Secretary of State -- she was the one to be enforcing the proper discipline for classified material in that organization. NOT --- being an ABUSER of that system..

p.s.
we aren't talking about how classified material is handle ... the allegation is that hillary had classified material on her sever ... to date not one has turned up to be classified on her server... and you of all people can't say there is

OMG.. Can you be that simple?? In terms of Federal Security law violations -- there is no difference between "handling" and allowing that content to escape from totally secured environments.. Like routing them over ANY public network or allowing them to slip in and out of a private computer account.

Hey asswipe -- here are the same numbers I posted from another source in a Oct 30 Politico story..
Let's see if you can comprehend the facts from your lefttard source.

Obama drawn into Clinton email controversy


Friday's document release is the sixth of its kind and with it, more than half of the messages Clinton turned over to the agency from her private email account and server have now been made public. In the new batch, State deemed 268 emails classified at the lowest classification tier, according to spokesman John Kirby, who said that none of these emails "were marked classified at the time they were sent or received." There are now between 600 and 700 emails newly marked as classified since the releases began in May.

Read more: Obama drawn into Clinton email controversy

 

[flacaltenn]

The "TWO" emails (actually three) that are being debated as "Top Secret" (actually HIGHER than T.S) are something the public will never know.. And the crap in the OP about "anonymous sources" is no confirmation of anything.

There are still HUNDREDS of sensitive classified documents IDENTIFIED by multiple govt agencies that this idiot politician allowed on the same computer account as her yoga friends..

 

[OKTexas]

Are you saying she NEVER sent or received an email to/from ANY foreign official?

now this is a stupid question ...what we are saying she never sent a classified email to her private server... if the email became classified after the fact, not her problem

That's not way classified material is handled, treated or secured. Hillary was responsible for KNOWING the classification of material in ANY message that crossed her eyes. REGARDLESS of whether it bears a proper label or not. Every individual protecting a certain security class KNOWS classified info when they read it.

And as Secretary of State -- she was the one to be enforcing the proper discipline for classified material in that organization. NOT --- being an ABUSER of that system..

p.s.
we aren't talking about how classified material is handle ... the allegation is that hillary had classified material on her sever ... to date not one has turned up to be classified on her server... and you of all people can't say there is

So you're claiming she never ever contacted any foreign official thorough her email?

there isn't any regulation against her contacting a foreign official on her email ... there aren't any allegations stating she had contacted any foreign official with classified information off her private account ... and you nor the congress or the FBI has any document saying she ha is what I'm saying ... what is being implied here and in the right wing press is they believe she has... the Key word here is believe not we have found... she has just a lot of maybes, might have, or we believe, coming from the right ... I have challenged any one to show us where she has, so far just a lot of name calling and not one bit of factual evidence

Well, just keep on regurgitating the talking points, we'll see what the FBI has to say. In the mean time you might want to read the link.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/88404.pdf

 

[A Perez]

Well, just keep on regurgitating the talking points, we'll see what the FBI has to say. In the mean time you might want to read the link.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/88404.pdf

Why do you keep pretending that you will respect the FBI's decision? You are going to be the first one to claim that the FBI covered up for Hillary.

 

[OKTexas]

Well, just keep on regurgitating the talking points, we'll see what the FBI has to say. In the mean time you might want to read the link.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/88404.pdf

Why do you keep pretending that you will respect the FBI's decision? You are going to be the first one to claim that the FBI covered up for Hillary.

So now you claim to be a freaking psychic, any more hidden talents. Actually I think the FBI will do their job and refer charges, it will be the DOJ burying it, just like they did with Holder and Learner.

 

[The Rabbi]

Well, just keep on regurgitating the talking points, we'll see what the FBI has to say. In the mean time you might want to read the link.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/88404.pdf

Why do you keep pretending that you will respect the FBI's decision? You are going to be the first one to claim that the FBI covered up for Hillary.

So now you claim to be a freaking psychic, any more hidden talents. Actually I think the FBI will do their job and refer charges, it will be the DOJ burying it, just like they did with Holder and Learner.

I have zero confidence in this administration's ability to investigate fairly and impartially anything. Every high profile case, from Bob Menendez to Hillary, is dealt with as a political matter first.

 

[OKTexas]

Well, just keep on regurgitating the talking points, we'll see what the FBI has to say. In the mean time you might want to read the link.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/88404.pdf

Why do you keep pretending that you will respect the FBI's decision? You are going to be the first one to claim that the FBI covered up for Hillary.

So now you claim to be a freaking psychic, any more hidden talents. Actually I think the FBI will do their job and refer charges, it will be the DOJ burying it, just like they did with Holder and Learner.

I have zero confidence in this administration's ability to investigate fairly and impartially anything. Every high profile case, from Bob Menendez to Hillary, is dealt with as a political matter first.

I agree to a point, the FBI director is appointed for 10 years to place them above political reprisals and historically they have been pretty fair.

 

[JoeB131]

Well, just keep on regurgitating the talking points, we'll see what the FBI has to say. In the mean time you might want to read the link.

Unless the FBI has an e-mail with a thread titled 'Our top secret stuff" addressed to KimJongUm@PDRK.com, no reasonable person is going to really think Hillary did anything wrong.

Hey, here's a crazy idea. How about you guys nominate a candidate who doesn't think crazy shit like Mexicans are all rapists or the Pyramids were grain silos and then we can have a sensible discussion about whether or not that person might be a better president than Mrs. Clinton.

 

[OKTexas]

Well, just keep on regurgitating the talking points, we'll see what the FBI has to say. In the mean time you might want to read the link.

Unless the FBI has an e-mail with a thread titled 'Our top secret stuff" addressed to KimJongUm@PDRK.com, no reasonable person is going to really think Hillary did anything wrong.

Hey, here's a crazy idea. How about you guys nominate a candidate who doesn't think crazy shit like Mexicans are all rapists or the Pyramids were grain silos and then we can have a sensible discussion about whether or not that person might be a better president than Mrs. Clinton.

Great deflection there regressivecrat.

 

[JoeB131]

Great deflection there regressivecrat.

Not a deflection at all. Unless you have DAMNING evidence, you guys are not going to get the legal system to do what you can't accomplish at the ballot box without stealing an election.

People are not going to charge "The Most Admired Woman in America' with a crime unless you can show something really bad happened. Certainly not with a DC Jury pool

 

[OKTexas]

Great deflection there regressivecrat.

Not a deflection at all. Unless you have DAMNING evidence, you guys are not going to get the legal system to do what you can't accomplish at the ballot box without stealing an election.

People are not going to charge "The Most Admired Woman in America' with a crime unless you can show something really bad happened. Certainly not with a DC Jury pool

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Most mistrusted woman in America is more like it, or haven't you seen to polls lately? Only ones standing by her are scumbags and just like her.

 

[flacaltenn]

Well, just keep on regurgitating the talking points, we'll see what the FBI has to say. In the mean time you might want to read the link.

Unless the FBI has an e-mail with a thread titled 'Our top secret stuff" addressed to KimJongUm@PDRK.com, no reasonable person is going to really think Hillary did anything wrong.

Hey, here's a crazy idea. How about you guys nominate a candidate who doesn't think crazy shit like Mexicans are all rapists or the Pyramids were grain silos and then we can have a sensible discussion about whether or not that person might be a better president than Mrs. Clinton.

That's not how folks get in trouble for compromising security of classified documents. You are guilty if you even mishandle it or remove it from the security protections that the rules require..

Doesn't have to be an intentional leak..

 

[A Perez]

Well, just keep on regurgitating the talking points, we'll see what the FBI has to say. In the mean time you might want to read the link.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/88404.pdf

Why do you keep pretending that you will respect the FBI's decision? You are going to be the first one to claim that the FBI covered up for Hillary.

So now you claim to be a freaking psychic, any more hidden talents. Actually I think the FBI will do their job and refer charges, it will be the DOJ burying it, just like they did with Holder and Learner.

If the FBI doesn't "refer charges", will you say it was a coverup?

 

[JoeB131]

That's not how folks get in trouble for compromising security of classified documents. You are guilty if you even mishandle it or remove it from the security protections that the rules require..

Doesn't have to be an intentional leak..

and how many people have actually gone to jail for that? Because I asked OKT that very question, and the best he could come up with was guys the FBI thought were spying and they came up short.

Guys, seriously, you would think after 25 years of trying this, you'd have learned by now. You aren't going to nail the Clintons on some legal technicality.

 

[billyerock1991]

1) Retroactively?
2) Who deemed them classified?

Are you saying she NEVER sent or received an email to/from ANY foreign official?

now this is a stupid question ...what we are saying she never sent a classified email to her private server... if the email became classified after the fact, not her problem

That's not way classified material is handled, treated or secured. Hillary was responsible for KNOWING the classification of material in ANY message that crossed her eyes. REGARDLESS of whether it bears a proper label or not. Every individual protecting a certain security class KNOWS classified info when they read it.

And as Secretary of State -- she was the one to be enforcing the proper discipline for classified material in that organization. NOT --- being an ABUSER of that system..

p.s.
we aren't talking about how classified material is handle ... the allegation is that hillary had classified material on her sever ... to date not one has turned up to be classified on her server... and you of all people can't say there is

OMG.. Can you be that simple?? In terms of Federal Security law violations -- there is no difference between "handling" and allowing that content to escape from totally secured environments.. Like routing them over ANY public network or allowing them to slip in and out of a private computer account.

Hey asswipe -- here are the same numbers I posted from another source in a Oct 30 Politico story..
Let's see if you can comprehend the facts from your lefttard source.

Obama drawn into Clinton email controversy


Friday's document release is the sixth of its kind and with it, more than half of the messages Clinton turned over to the agency from her private email account and server have now been made public. In the new batch, State deemed 268 emails classified at the lowest classification tier, according to spokesman John Kirby, who said that none of these emails "were marked classified at the time they were sent or received." There are now between 600 and 700 emails newly marked as classified since the releases began in May.

Read more: Obama drawn into Clinton email controversy

you said
"OMG.. Can you be that simple?? In terms of Federal Security law violations -- there is no difference between "handling" and allowing that content to escape from totally secured environments.. Like routing them over ANY public network or allowing them to slip in and out of a private computer account"

OMG!!! Her account was a private server ... it wasn't routed over any public network ... this has been established By the FBI ... so once again you use information that is based on allegation and not facts that has been actually introduced into the public

then you quoted"
Friday's document release is the sixth of its kind and with it, more than half of the messages Clinton turned over to the agency from her private email account and server have now been made public. In the new batch, State deemed 268 emails classified at the lowest classification tier, according to spokesman John Kirby, who said that none of these emails "were marked classified at the time they were sent or received." There are now between 600 and 700 emails newly marked as classified since the releases began in May.


OMG !!!! are you this simple ????
the lowest "CLASSIFIED TIER" is "SENSITIVE" which I have stated ... and were "RECLASSIFIED" after the fact ... not when she received them ... again you are going off the deep end with you assumptions ... you said they have been marked classified ... not so ass wipe, they have been marked sensitive, as I stated before ... sensitive and classified are two different classification things as I stated before ... which is it ??? 600 or 700??? those numbers aren't factual either

There was not an explicit, categorical prohibition against federal employees using personal emails when Clinton was in office, said Daniel Metcalfe, former director of the Department of Justice’s Office of Information Policy, where he administered implementation of the Freedom of Information Act. High-level officials like Clinton need the flexibility to sometimes use a personal email, such as responding to a national security emergency in the middle of the night.

So it seems she didn’t break a rule simply by using a personal email to conduct business. Rather, by using personal emails exclusively, she skirted the rules governing federal records management, Cox said.

A federal record is any documentary material, regardless of physical form, made or received by a government agency, according to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), which oversees federal recordkeeping. Records are preserved as evidence of the agencies’ activities, decisions and procedures. Each agency is responsible for maintaining its records in accordance with regulations.

she did this... ass whipe

 

[billyerock1991]

now this is a stupid question ...what we are saying she never sent a classified email to her private server... if the email became classified after the fact, not her problem

That's not way classified material is handled, treated or secured. Hillary was responsible for KNOWING the classification of material in ANY message that crossed her eyes. REGARDLESS of whether it bears a proper label or not. Every individual protecting a certain security class KNOWS classified info when they read it.

And as Secretary of State -- she was the one to be enforcing the proper discipline for classified material in that organization. NOT --- being an ABUSER of that system..

p.s.
we aren't talking about how classified material is handle ... the allegation is that hillary had classified material on her sever ... to date not one has turned up to be classified on her server... and you of all people can't say there is

So you're claiming she never ever contacted any foreign official thorough her email?

there isn't any regulation against her contacting a foreign official on her email ... there aren't any allegations stating she had contacted any foreign official with classified information off her private account ... and you nor the congress or the FBI has any document saying she ha is what I'm saying ... what is being implied here and in the right wing press is they believe she has... the Key word here is believe not we have found... she has just a lot of maybes, might have, or we believe, coming from the right ... I have challenged any one to show us where she has, so far just a lot of name calling and not one bit of factual evidence

Well, just keep on regurgitating the talking points, we'll see what the FBI has to say. In the mean time you might want to read the link.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/88404.pdf

the law you quote is again after the fact ... you ass wipes keep quoting the law that doesn't not apply in this case ... if the email is marked after the fact it does not apply here ... try again... hell right in the very first sentence it defines sensitive ... in her case it wasn't marked sensitive ... when are you ass wipes going to grasp that ??? soon I hope... and yes you keep "regurgitating the talking points" that doesn't apply to her situation

 

[billyerock1991]

As for your 600 0r 700 so-called emails that are allegedly in violation ... in ever article that I have read from the right they all say the same thing ... "We believe" that 670 emails are in violation ... not "670 emails are in violation" but "we believe" ... then they go as far to say once again "we believe" three are classified and 2 are top secret ... what they didn't say to us all was "three are classified and 2 are top secret" they clearly said in all articles "we believe" ... that isn't a confirmed violation of the law ... "we believe" isn't cause for conviction ... its a assumption

 

[billyerock1991]

Well, just keep on regurgitating the talking points, we'll see what the FBI has to say. In the mean time you might want to read the link.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/88404.pdf

Why do you keep pretending that you will respect the FBI's decision? You are going to be the first one to claim that the FBI covered up for Hillary.

So now you claim to be a freaking psychic, any more hidden talents. Actually I think the FBI will do their job and refer charges, it will be the DOJ burying it, just like they did with Holder and Learner.

here is another republican in denial ... I can hear him now ... wow!!!!! its a FBI conspiracy

 

[billyerock1991]

Well, just keep on regurgitating the talking points, we'll see what the FBI has to say. In the mean time you might want to read the link.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/88404.pdf

Why do you keep pretending that you will respect the FBI's decision? You are going to be the first one to claim that the FBI covered up for Hillary.

So now you claim to be a freaking psychic, any more hidden talents. Actually I think the FBI will do their job and refer charges, it will be the DOJ burying it, just like they did with Holder and Learner.

I have zero confidence in this administration's ability to investigate fairly and impartially anything. Every high profile case, from Bob Menendez to Hillary, is dealt with as a political matter first.

here's why he has zero confidence in this administration's ... these republicans are getting tossed in jail one right after another on actually laws that have been violated... so when the republicans try to make something out of nothing, and they can't get you for doing nothing wrong, these republicans go off the deep end ... they start say shit, like they have zero confidence in this administration's ability to investigate fairly and impartially anything ... sorry you can't get convicted on doing nothing wrong, ask Denny Hastert ...