Indocrtination or Education?

[PixieStix]

How did we find ourselves in the place where we are? People seemingly ok with more and more government control?

Indoctrination, not education is how.

David Horowitz studied the course offerings of 12 major academic institutions....from Columbia University on the East Coast to the University of Southern California on the West Coast.
More than 150 courses were pure indoctrination. For example:

A "Whiteness Studies" guilt curriculum at the University of Colorado.

An Arizona State University sociology instructor who offers credits for participating in protests: "Give 4 hours to a social movement organization and I'll give you 200 points...."

A University of California at Santa Cruz, the course that claims President Bush lied to make the case for the Iraq war, and lied about al Qaeda attacking us on September 11, 2001 ("How did Bush and Cheney build the fiction that al Qaeda was a participant in the 9/11 attacks?" the course description asks).

a time when the American public has become increasingly alarmed by “activist government,” another threat to America’s prospects has garnered less scrutiny: activist education. But as David Horowitz demonstrates in his new book, One-Party Classroom: How Radical Professors at America's Top Colleges Indoctrinate Students and Undermine Our Democracy, co-authored with Jacob Laksin, the misuse of higher education for political ends – symbolized by curricula that present left-wing politics and activism in the guise of education – is a pervasive threat to the country’s democracy. The book examines 12 major universities from the universities across the country and analyzes more than 150 courses whose orientation is unapologetically leftist and whose basic objective is clearly to indoctrinate students. To reinforce the findings of the book, Horowitz is now embarking on a national campaign that will take that message to the places most hostile to it: America’s universities themselves.

FrontPage Magazine - Challenging the One-Party Classroom

 

[Ringel05]

Indoctrination at our higher centers of learning as been around for decades. It's just becoming more and more prevelant and tolerated. When I went back to take some classes (in my 30s) a couple of professors tried to give me bad grades because they didn't agree with my research conclusions. These were the same profs I would challenge in class on a regular basis. With one all it took was going to the program director the other one I had to go to the dean. In both instances my grades were corrected because I was able to prove I completed each paper as required in the manor they were required.
I wonder if the outcome would be the same today?

 

[AllieBaba]

Which is why people are becoming less intelligent. When our schools moved away from teaching actual topics and instead stepped into the realm of parenting and teaching political viewpoints, our kids started learning much, much less about the reality of the world. Including grammar, writing, basic English, math & science.

 

[PixieStix]

Indoctrination at our higher centers of learning as been around for decades. It's just becoming more and more prevelant and tolerated. When I went back to take some classes (in my 30s) a couple of professors tried to give me bad grades because they didn't agree with my research conclusions. These were the same profs I would challenge in class on a regular basis. With one all it took was going to the program director the other one I had to go to the dean. In both instances my grades were corrected because I was able to prove I completed each paper as required in the manor they were required.
I wonder if the outcome would be the same today?

No today the professor would call you ‘a Fascist Bastard' in Class, and proceed to prove his tenure is more important than your academic freedoms

 

[veritas]

David Horowitz studied the course offerings of 12 major academic institutions....from Columbia University on the East Coast to the University of Southern California on the West Coast.
More than 150 courses were pure indoctrination.

12 major academic institutions, eh? 150 courses.......oh my!!! The local community college here has over 1000 courses.


Swallowed that whole, didja?

 

[edthecynic]

Indoctrination at our higher centers of learning as been around for decades. It's just becoming more and more prevelant and tolerated. When I went back to take some classes (in my 30s) a couple of professors tried to give me bad grades because they didn't agree with my research conclusions. These were the same profs I would challenge in class on a regular basis. With one all it took was going to the program director the other one I had to go to the dean. In both instances my grades were corrected because I was able to prove I completed each paper as required in the manor they were required.
I wonder if the outcome would be the same today?

Awwwww, poor baby, everybody picks on you dear sweet CON$. You are the Perpetual Victims of the world.

 

[Old Rocks]

Which is why people are becoming less intelligent. When our schools moved away from teaching actual topics and instead stepped into the realm of parenting and teaching political viewpoints, our kids started learning much, much less about the reality of the world. Including grammar, writing, basic English, math & science.

We have more Conservatives than ever before. Really hard to determine if that is a cause or result.

 

[JakeStarkey]

David Horowitz studied the course offerings of 12 major academic institutions....from Columbia University on the East Coast to the University of Southern California on the West Coast.
More than 150 courses were pure indoctrination.

12 major academic institutions, eh? 150 courses.......oh my!!! The local community college here has over 1000 courses.

Swallowed that whole, didja?

 

[Diuretic]

Horowitz, the former Trotskyist, should know all about indoctrination. He'll get sliced up as usual.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Which is why people are becoming less intelligent. When our schools moved away from teaching actual topics and instead stepped into the realm of parenting and teaching political viewpoints, our kids started learning much, much less about the reality of the world. Including grammar, writing, basic English, math & science.

Generations of indoctrination have finally produced fully malleable nitwits unable to think for themselves and unaware of the traditions of America. The parent are little better , burdened with shopping desires and taxes to pay, they left the raising of the children to school and television.
Grown the children bough what the progressive media partners packages .Obama hope and change.
Their is no way to reeducate these morons they must be sold the idea of personal responiablity liberty and freedom
a harder sell than free stuff from the government.
There is no real time to mount a product campaign the damage has been done
the future is "Chains yous can believe in."

The General Education Board (GEB), established by John D. Rockefeller, Sr., was chartered in 1902. And in Raymond Fosdick's memorial history of the Board, he indicated it was part of John D. Rockefeller, Jr.'s effort toward the "goal of social control." The GEB was established the year after SOCIAL CONTROL (1901) was written by Edward Alsworth Ross (Father of American Sociology), and in this book, Ross revealed that social checks and stimuli "are managed by a rather small knot of persons...the Elite....Judgment may be moulded as well as the will and the feelings."

The word, "moulded," is instructive because in THE WORLD'S WORK (August 1912), one reads "The Country School of Tomorrow" by GEB chairman Frederick Gates, declaring: "In our dreams, we have limitless resources, and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands." Not only was the GEB to be used for social control, but the Rockefeller Foundation as well.

Dr. Dennis Cuddy -- Mental Health, Education and Social Control, Part 2

 

[Jay Canuck]

Texas has some neat mandatory courses......

 

[Jay Canuck]

"The real concern is that there will be re-education camps for young people, where they have to get trained in a philosophy that the government puts forward and then work in some of these politically-correct forums. I would have a very, very difficult time seeing my children do this."
-- Michelle Bachmann, (R-Birther Queen Bee), Link

 

[noose4]

Edumucatiun am bad!!!!!!

 

[PixieStix]

Political Correctness in college campuses is the new age religion, and these are the people who voted for obama with no knowledge of the who and what his past and present associates stood for or against, sheep, useful idiots paying or allowing us to pay for their college indoctrination.


I believe that Horowitz has been demonized for the same reason palin and glenn beck and many others are. Speak against obama or socialism or even marxism and communism, and you are going to become the sacrifice placed on the altar of liberalism for the sake of something these people do not even understand, nor know.

I am not saying they are not educated, they are, it is just that today the word "education" has become synonymous with indoctrination
Academia and intellectualism are not the same. Today they seem to be polar opposites

Think about this: The current generation of college students was born after the fall of the Berlin Wall. These modern products of elite education are not Reagan babies. They were not inspired by the Westminster Address of June 1982, by the Evil Empire speech of March 1983, by Reagan meeting with Pope John Paul II to topple communism in Eastern Europe throughout the 1980s, or by Reagan in front of the Brandenburg Gate in 1987, demanding that Mikhail Gorbachev tear down that cement tombstone to human freedom. No, today's freshmen, sophomores, juniors, and seniors, who voted for the first time on November 4, 2008, were born after these historic events. They've received their education on communism from their professors, which means they've received either no education at all on the unparalleled slaughter formally known as Marxism-Leninism, or, to the contrary, they've heard only dark, dire lectures about the malevolence of anti-communism--- of McCarthyism.

 

[Big Black Dog]

Read Glenn Beck's book, "Common Sense". Then you'll know exactly why.

 

[PixieStix]

Which is why people are becoming less intelligent. When our schools moved away from teaching actual topics and instead stepped into the realm of parenting and teaching political viewpoints, our kids started learning much, much less about the reality of the world. Including grammar, writing, basic English, math & science.

Generations of indoctrination have finally produced fully malleable nitwits unable to think for themselves and unaware of the traditions of America. The parent are little better , burdened with shopping desires and taxes to pay, they left the raising of the children to school and television.
Grown the children bough what the progressive media partners packages .Obama hope and change.
Their is no way to reeducate these morons they must be sold the idea of personal responiablity liberty and freedom
a harder sell than free stuff from the government.
There is no real time to mount a product campaign the damage has been done
the future is "Chains yous can believe in."

The General Education Board (GEB), established by John D. Rockefeller, Sr., was chartered in 1902. And in Raymond Fosdick's memorial history of the Board, he indicated it was part of John D. Rockefeller, Jr.'s effort toward the "goal of social control." The GEB was established the year after SOCIAL CONTROL (1901) was written by Edward Alsworth Ross (Father of American Sociology), and in this book, Ross revealed that social checks and stimuli "are managed by a rather small knot of persons...the Elite....Judgment may be moulded as well as the will and the feelings."

The word, "moulded," is instructive because in THE WORLD'S WORK (August 1912), one reads "The Country School of Tomorrow" by GEB chairman Frederick Gates, declaring: "In our dreams, we have limitless resources, and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hands." Not only was the GEB to be used for social control, but the Rockefeller Foundation as well.

Dr. Dennis Cuddy -- Mental Health, Education and Social Control, Part 2

That is very interesting, this little tidbit stood out for me

Educational propaganda, with government help, could achieve this result in a generation. There are, however, two powerful forces opposed to such a policy: one is religion; the other is nationalism....A scientific world society cannot be stable unless there is a world government."

 

[noose4]

Read Glenn Beck's book, "Common Sense". Then you'll know exactly why.

if you read a book written by glenn beck you wont learn anything.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Does that surprise you? Every religion wants to be the 'religion', every nation state would love to be the new 'Rome' or 'US'. Scientists believe that evidence, not doctrine should govern research and interpretation. That's would got Gallileo and John Scopes in so much trouble with the fools.

I will let you in on a secret. Deity really does not need all the help you want to give it.

 

[veritas]

Political Correctness in college campuses is the new age religion, and these are the people who voted for obama with no knowledge of the who and what his past and present associates stood for or against, sheep, useful idiots paying or allowing us to pay for their college indoctrination.


I believe that Horowitz has been demonized for the same reason palin and glenn beck and many others are. Speak against obama or socialism or even marxism and communism, and you are going to become the sacrifice placed on the altar of liberalism for the sake of something these people do not even understand, nor know.

I am not saying they are not educated, they are, it is just that today the word "education" has become synonymous with indoctrination
Academia and intellectualism are not the same. Today they seem to be polar opposites

Think about this: The current generation of college students was born after the fall of the Berlin Wall. These modern products of elite education are not Reagan babies. They were not inspired by the Westminster Address of June 1982, by the Evil Empire speech of March 1983, by Reagan meeting with Pope John Paul II to topple communism in Eastern Europe throughout the 1980s, or by Reagan in front of the Brandenburg Gate in 1987, demanding that Mikhail Gorbachev tear down that cement tombstone to human freedom. No, today's freshmen, sophomores, juniors, and seniors, who voted for the first time on November 4, 2008, were born after these historic events. They've received their education on communism from their professors, which means they've received either no education at all on the unparalleled slaughter formally known as Marxism-Leninism, or, to the contrary, they've heard only dark, dire lectures about the malevolence of anti-communism--- of McCarthyism.

I didn't demonize Horowitz, I do take issue with his maths, and yours, for being so gullible. I am sure he knew better when he aimed right at people like you but he continued and you bought it. So he at least has the used car salesman thing going for him.

Do you have kids? I do. And they are nothing like you described, nor are their friends. They're not communists, and they could see you coming a mile away. They are not indoctrinated. The ones that do have a particular bent sound more like you, obviously they borrowed heavily from some proximal and pervasive role model such as yourself and stopped thinking on their own long ago.

 

[EriktheRed]

Read Glenn Beck's book, "Common Sense". Then you'll know exactly why.

Right after you read this.