Indigenous Palestinians Were JEWS

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P F Tinmore, et al,

You did not answer the questions.

Objectively, there are two very key issues that must be addressed before a determination can be made on the assignment of the "Indigenous People" label.

• How far back in time are you accepting evidence of a culture with historical ties to the territory?
• How long does it take for a culture to be in place before it can be considered "Indigenous?"​
That is true. The population of Palestine has been in flux for thousands of years. It has been invaded, conquered and occupied. It was the center of major trade routes. Many people had come and gone.

However, there was a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. These are the people who built Palestine. They built the cities, towns, and hundreds of farm villages that produced a surplus of food that was exported to other countries.

These are the people of the place. A place called Palestine whose international borders were defined by post war treaties. These are the people who became citizens of Palestine.

Indigenous? How could you say not?
(COMMENT)

The Jewish immigration associate with the Balfour Declaration started nearly century ago. At what point are the Jewish people eligible to be called "indigenous" under your criteria. When, in the course of events, the Arab indigenous population ceases to be a population constituent of the region, and are replaced by the new constituent, is the new constituent the indigenous population? (Americans, for just over two hundred years, have controlled about four-fifths of America to date. At what point are the Americans indigenous to America?)

Israel the territory, for whatever reason, is dominated by Israelis. And the Arab, for whatever reason, have vacated the region. This is a scenario that has been played out a hundred times or more throughout the regional history. When do the Israeli become the "indigenous" population?

Of all the Arab Palestinians registered in the UNRWA CERI Database, how many actually lived in the territory now sovereign to Israel? They would have to be at least 67 years old. And how many will be left in 33 more years (100 years after Israeli Independence)? The number grows smaller all the time. Many of the registered refugees have more of a tie to the Refugee Camp than to any claim they might have had in Israel.

Who is indigenous to where?

Most Respectfully,
R

Interesting point. I would say colonisers can never be considered "indigenous" to the territory they colonise, unless perhaps, they interbreed with the indigenous population and they and their descendants evolve a new joint "culture" that becomes associated with that territory. The writer in the OP link is a "Métis" which would qualify, so would Mulattos.




Like the Jews did 4,500 years ago and have stayed on the land ever since ?

It was 2,500 years only a few minutes ago Phoney!

What's it to be? 2,500 years or 4,500 years?

Just for clarity you understand!
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

You did not answer the questions.

P F Tinmore, et al,

What is the definition of indigenous. Your asking for a definition for which I already said does not exist.

Objectively, there are two very key issues that must be addressed before a determination can be made on the assignment of the "Indigenous People" label.

• How far back in time are you accepting evidence of a culture with historical ties to the territory?
• How long does it take for a culture to be in place before it can be considered "Indigenous?"​
That is true. The population of Palestine has been in flux for thousands of years. It has been invaded, conquered and occupied. It was the center of major trade routes. Many people had come and gone.

However, there was a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. These are the people who built Palestine. They built the cities, towns, and hundreds of farm villages that produced a surplus of food that was exported to other countries.

These are the people of the place. A place called Palestine whose international borders were defined by post war treaties. These are the people who became citizens of Palestine.

Indigenous? How could you say not?
(COMMENT)

The Jewish immigration associate with the Balfour Declaration started nearly century ago. At what point are the Jewish people eligible to be called "indigenous" under your criteria. When, in the course of events, the Arab indigenous population ceases to be a population constituent of the region, and are replaced by the new constituent, is the new constituent the indigenous population? (Americans, for just over two hundred years, have controlled about four-fifths of America to date. At what point are the Americans indigenous to America?)

Israel the territory, for whatever reason, is dominated by Israelis. And the Arab, for whatever reason, have vacated the region. This is a scenario that has been played out a hundred times or more throughout the regional history. When do the Israeli become the "indigenous" population?

Of all the Arab Palestinians registered in the UNRWA CERI Database, how many actually lived in the territory now sovereign to Israel? They would have to be at least 67 years old. And how many will be left in 33 more years (100 years after Israeli Independence)? The number grows smaller all the time. Many of the registered refugees have more of a tie to the Refugee Camp than to any claim they might have had in Israel.

Who is indigenous to where?

Most Respectfully,
R
The questions.

• How far back in time are you accepting evidence of a culture with historical ties to the territory?
• How long does it take for a culture to be in place before it can be considered "Indigenous?"​

Good questions. Can occupations ever be considered indigenous?

Could you provide a link with your answer?
(COMMENT)

You still did not answer the questions.

An Occupation Power is "never" the same as the "indigenous population." The "Occupation Power" is the nation that has actually placed the territory under the authority for the hostile army. (Article 42 of the Hague Convention)

Indigenous population can be the Israelis that have establish a recognized state.

Most Respectfully,
R
So what if Israel has political recognition. It still occupies Palestine.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

You did not answer the questions.

Objectively, there are two very key issues that must be addressed before a determination can be made on the assignment of the "Indigenous People" label.

• How far back in time are you accepting evidence of a culture with historical ties to the territory?
• How long does it take for a culture to be in place before it can be considered "Indigenous?"​
That is true. The population of Palestine has been in flux for thousands of years. It has been invaded, conquered and occupied. It was the center of major trade routes. Many people had come and gone.

However, there was a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. These are the people who built Palestine. They built the cities, towns, and hundreds of farm villages that produced a surplus of food that was exported to other countries.

These are the people of the place. A place called Palestine whose international borders were defined by post war treaties. These are the people who became citizens of Palestine.

Indigenous? How could you say not?
(COMMENT)

The Jewish immigration associate with the Balfour Declaration started nearly century ago. At what point are the Jewish people eligible to be called "indigenous" under your criteria. When, in the course of events, the Arab indigenous population ceases to be a population constituent of the region, and are replaced by the new constituent, is the new constituent the indigenous population? (Americans, for just over two hundred years, have controlled about four-fifths of America to date. At what point are the Americans indigenous to America?)

Israel the territory, for whatever reason, is dominated by Israelis. And the Arab, for whatever reason, have vacated the region. This is a scenario that has been played out a hundred times or more throughout the regional history. When do the Israeli become the "indigenous" population?

Of all the Arab Palestinians registered in the UNRWA CERI Database, how many actually lived in the territory now sovereign to Israel? They would have to be at least 67 years old. And how many will be left in 33 more years (100 years after Israeli Independence)? The number grows smaller all the time. Many of the registered refugees have more of a tie to the Refugee Camp than to any claim they might have had in Israel.

Who is indigenous to where?

Most Respectfully,
R

Interesting point. I would say colonisers can never be considered "indigenous" to the territory they colonise, unless perhaps, they interbreed with the indigenous population and they and their descendants evolve a new joint "culture" that becomes associated with that territory. The writer in the OP link is a "Métis" which would qualify, so would Mulattos.




Like the Jews did 4,500 years ago and have stayed on the land ever since ?

It was 2,500 years only a few minutes ago Phoney!

What's it to be? 2,500 years or 4,500 years?

Just for clarity you understand!
It is hard to keep track when you are just blowing smoke.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, you've claimed that. It is a very popular Palestinian Claim; especially by HAMAS Jihadist.

So what if Israel has political recognition. It still occupies Palestine.
(COMMENT)

Recognition is recognition.

The right of self-determination is just that.

You can make your own assessment; and pretend all you want. I would not recommend that you actually try to practically apply that illusion and operate under that misconception. Infiltrators and illegal border crossers are treated like the criminals they are.

QUESTIONs: Who did Israel occupy? What sovereignty or government was occupied?

Most Respectfully,
R
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, you've claimed that. It is a very popular Palestinian Claim; especially by HAMAS Jihadist.

So what if Israel has political recognition. It still occupies Palestine.
(COMMENT)

Recognition is recognition.

The right of self-determination is just that.

You can make your own assessment; and pretend all you want. I would not recommend that you actually try to practically apply that illusion and operate under that misconception. Infiltrators and illegal border crossers are treated like the criminals they are.

QUESTIONs: Who did Israel occupy? What sovereignty or government was occupied?

Most Respectfully,
R
Infiltrators and illegal border crossers are treated like the criminals they are.​

What borders have the Palestinians crossed?
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, you've claimed that. It is a very popular Palestinian Claim; especially by HAMAS Jihadist.

So what if Israel has political recognition. It still occupies Palestine.
(COMMENT)

Recognition is recognition.

The right of self-determination is just that.

You can make your own assessment; and pretend all you want. I would not recommend that you actually try to practically apply that illusion and operate under that misconception. Infiltrators and illegal border crossers are treated like the criminals they are.

QUESTIONs: Who did Israel occupy? What sovereignty or government was occupied?

Most Respectfully,
R
The right of self-determination is just that.​

Do colonialists have the right to self determination?

Link?
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, you've claimed that. It is a very popular Palestinian Claim; especially by HAMAS Jihadist.

So what if Israel has political recognition. It still occupies Palestine.
(COMMENT)

Recognition is recognition.

The right of self-determination is just that.

You can make your own assessment; and pretend all you want. I would not recommend that you actually try to practically apply that illusion and operate under that misconception. Infiltrators and illegal border crossers are treated like the criminals they are.

QUESTIONs: Who did Israel occupy? What sovereignty or government was occupied?

Most Respectfully,
R

The European Jews occupied an area called Palestine. The Europeans occupied an area called America. Sovereignty or government has nothing to do with it bozo.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, you've claimed that. It is a very popular Palestinian Claim; especially by HAMAS Jihadist.

So what if Israel has political recognition. It still occupies Palestine.
(COMMENT)

Recognition is recognition.

The right of self-determination is just that.

You can make your own assessment; and pretend all you want. I would not recommend that you actually try to practically apply that illusion and operate under that misconception. Infiltrators and illegal border crossers are treated like the criminals they are.

QUESTIONs: Who did Israel occupy? What sovereignty or government was occupied?

Most Respectfully,
R

The European Jews occupied an area called Palestine. The Europeans occupied an area called America. Sovereignty or government has nothing to do with it bozo.
The RCC forcibly removed the Jews and the Jews returned.
Presuming, of course, that as a good Christian, you reject the Roman conquest of Judea.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, you've claimed that. It is a very popular Palestinian Claim; especially by HAMAS Jihadist.

So what if Israel has political recognition. It still occupies Palestine.
(COMMENT)

Recognition is recognition.

The right of self-determination is just that.

You can make your own assessment; and pretend all you want. I would not recommend that you actually try to practically apply that illusion and operate under that misconception. Infiltrators and illegal border crossers are treated like the criminals they are.

QUESTIONs: Who did Israel occupy? What sovereignty or government was occupied?

Most Respectfully,
R

The European Jews occupied an area called Palestine. The Europeans occupied an area called America. Sovereignty or government has nothing to do with it bozo.
The RCC forcibly removed the Jews and the Jews returned.
Presuming, of course, that as a good Christian, you reject the Roman conquest of Judea.

Correction: The Roman Empire, the Progenitors of the RCC.
 
As have the Palestinians.
Egyptian, Syrian and, Lebanese squatters and land grabbers are not "Pal'istanians" simply by virtue of Arafat assigning an identity to them.

And Jewish Europeans, Americans, North Africans and Yemenis are not "Israelis" simply by virtue of the Zionist movement assigning an identity to them, either.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

You did not answer the questions.

P F Tinmore, et al,

What is the definition of indigenous. Your asking for a definition for which I already said does not exist.

Objectively, there are two very key issues that must be addressed before a determination can be made on the assignment of the "Indigenous People" label.

• How far back in time are you accepting evidence of a culture with historical ties to the territory?
• How long does it take for a culture to be in place before it can be considered "Indigenous?"​
That is true. The population of Palestine has been in flux for thousands of years. It has been invaded, conquered and occupied. It was the center of major trade routes. Many people had come and gone.

However, there was a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. These are the people who built Palestine. They built the cities, towns, and hundreds of farm villages that produced a surplus of food that was exported to other countries.

These are the people of the place. A place called Palestine whose international borders were defined by post war treaties. These are the people who became citizens of Palestine.

Indigenous? How could you say not?
(COMMENT)

The Jewish immigration associate with the Balfour Declaration started nearly century ago. At what point are the Jewish people eligible to be called "indigenous" under your criteria. When, in the course of events, the Arab indigenous population ceases to be a population constituent of the region, and are replaced by the new constituent, is the new constituent the indigenous population? (Americans, for just over two hundred years, have controlled about four-fifths of America to date. At what point are the Americans indigenous to America?)

Israel the territory, for whatever reason, is dominated by Israelis. And the Arab, for whatever reason, have vacated the region. This is a scenario that has been played out a hundred times or more throughout the regional history. When do the Israeli become the "indigenous" population?

Of all the Arab Palestinians registered in the UNRWA CERI Database, how many actually lived in the territory now sovereign to Israel? They would have to be at least 67 years old. And how many will be left in 33 more years (100 years after Israeli Independence)? The number grows smaller all the time. Many of the registered refugees have more of a tie to the Refugee Camp than to any claim they might have had in Israel.

Who is indigenous to where?

Most Respectfully,
R
The questions.

• How far back in time are you accepting evidence of a culture with historical ties to the territory?
• How long does it take for a culture to be in place before it can be considered "Indigenous?"​

Good questions. Can occupations ever be considered indigenous?

Could you provide a link with your answer?
(COMMENT)

You still did not answer the questions.

An Occupation Power is "never" the same as the "indigenous population." The "Occupation Power" is the nation that has actually placed the territory under the authority for the hostile army. (Article 42 of the Hague Convention)

Indigenous population can be the Israelis that have establish a recognized state.

Most Respectfully,
R
Indigenous population can be the Israelis that have establish a recognized state.

How so?
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, you've claimed that. It is a very popular Palestinian Claim; especially by HAMAS Jihadist.

So what if Israel has political recognition. It still occupies Palestine.
(COMMENT)

Recognition is recognition.

The right of self-determination is just that.

You can make your own assessment; and pretend all you want. I would not recommend that you actually try to practically apply that illusion and operate under that misconception. Infiltrators and illegal border crossers are treated like the criminals they are.

QUESTIONs: Who did Israel occupy? What sovereignty or government was occupied?

Most Respectfully,
R

The European Jews occupied an area called Palestine. The Europeans occupied an area called America. Sovereignty or government has nothing to do with it bozo.
The RCC forcibly removed the Jews and the Jews returned.
Presuming, of course, that as a good Christian, you reject the Roman conquest of Judea.

Correction: The Roman Empire, the Progenitors of the RCC.

Really? The Romans took some captives as slaves to be sure, but there is no historical or archaeological evidence of any mass deportations of the population of the Roman province of Judea; they just changed merged two of their provices into one called Syria Palaestina. What you need to remember is that the empire survived on taxation; the Romans weren't interested in extermination or depopulation, unless it was to make an example, something that was rarely if ever, necessary by Hadrian's time. Adherents to Judaism, however, were forbidden to return to Jerusalem once the Temple cult had been destroyed.
 
As have the Palestinians.
Egyptian, Syrian and, Lebanese squatters and land grabbers are not "Pal'istanians" simply by virtue of Arafat assigning an identity to them.

And Jewish Europeans, Americans, North Africans and Yemenis are not "Israelis" simply by virtue of the Zionist movement assigning an identity to them, either.
Actually, they are. You may wish to understand the criteria that defines statehood for the information.
 
As have the Palestinians.




Yes like I said the Jews as they were the original Palestinians, even the arab muslims called the Jews Palestinians until it looked like they would be given part of the M.E.

The neo Palestinians are all recent immigrants to the area so they have less that 200 years of habitation in palestine
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

You did not answer the questions.

Objectively, there are two very key issues that must be addressed before a determination can be made on the assignment of the "Indigenous People" label.

• How far back in time are you accepting evidence of a culture with historical ties to the territory?
• How long does it take for a culture to be in place before it can be considered "Indigenous?"​
That is true. The population of Palestine has been in flux for thousands of years. It has been invaded, conquered and occupied. It was the center of major trade routes. Many people had come and gone.

However, there was a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. These are the people who built Palestine. They built the cities, towns, and hundreds of farm villages that produced a surplus of food that was exported to other countries.

These are the people of the place. A place called Palestine whose international borders were defined by post war treaties. These are the people who became citizens of Palestine.

Indigenous? How could you say not?
(COMMENT)

The Jewish immigration associate with the Balfour Declaration started nearly century ago. At what point are the Jewish people eligible to be called "indigenous" under your criteria. When, in the course of events, the Arab indigenous population ceases to be a population constituent of the region, and are replaced by the new constituent, is the new constituent the indigenous population? (Americans, for just over two hundred years, have controlled about four-fifths of America to date. At what point are the Americans indigenous to America?)

Israel the territory, for whatever reason, is dominated by Israelis. And the Arab, for whatever reason, have vacated the region. This is a scenario that has been played out a hundred times or more throughout the regional history. When do the Israeli become the "indigenous" population?

Of all the Arab Palestinians registered in the UNRWA CERI Database, how many actually lived in the territory now sovereign to Israel? They would have to be at least 67 years old. And how many will be left in 33 more years (100 years after Israeli Independence)? The number grows smaller all the time. Many of the registered refugees have more of a tie to the Refugee Camp than to any claim they might have had in Israel.

Who is indigenous to where?

Most Respectfully,
R
The questions.

• How far back in time are you accepting evidence of a culture with historical ties to the territory?
• How long does it take for a culture to be in place before it can be considered "Indigenous?"​

Good questions. Can occupations ever be considered indigenous?

Could you provide a link with your answer?





Mandate of Palestine bestows the title on the Jews who migrated to Palestine, the only occupation was the arab muslims one after they were granted trans Jordan.
 
I say it is the start of Jewish occupancy of the land and carries on to the present day

At last... Phoney coming to his senses!

Finally admitting that Jewish occupancy started only 2,500 years ago, more or less, and continues today!

It's about time you converted from the 'dark side'!





WRONG again why do you LIE so much. I said 4,500 years ago, which is 2,500 years before the roman conquest and a little bit more before Christians were invented and later arab muslims.

So do try and get your facts right next time as you are showing yourself up. By the way do you live close to the pretend Ozzie down in brick lane ?
 
15th post
Yes a place but not a nation, and that place was the Mandate of Palestine that took in Jewish Palestine and arab muslim Palestine. The indigenous people since the roman invasion were the Jews, followed by the Christians 400 years later and the muslims 400 years after that. The arab muslims finally conquered that land and held it for 22 years before being evicted in 1099. Then the Turks invaded and made it part of the Ottoman empire in 1520 and ruled loosely until the defeat in 1917 that led to the armistice of Mudros that led in turn to the treaty of Sevres. This led to the partition of the Ottoman Empire by the LoN under the Mandate system. The area known as Palestine was delineated into a Jewish part and an arab muslim part to account for the differences in the population numbers. This was not acceptable to the arab muslims after having already agreed to the partition so they demanded everything and now have nothing
So?

So, all Palestinians with no titles or deeds wshatgsoever to the land they stole should leave. Don't you agree?

So should those bloody Brits... 40% of them have NO title or deed in the UK you know!

And as for 60% of the Germans having no title or deed... Well, send them back to where they came from!

Don't you agree?




Actually many more than that as they live in rented accommodation. I have deeds to my property going back to the 1700's when it was bequeathed as a wedding gift to the Earl of Zetlands daughter

Wow, well you are 'safe' then Phoney...

Those 40%+ Brits are in trouble... Where shall we send them? Damn squatters with no deeds!




Why are they when there are not enough private houses for them to buy, and being on low incomes they cant afford to buy. But they can trace their heritage in Britain back a lot further than the vast majority of arab muslim Palestinians can in Palestine.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, you've claimed that. It is a very popular Palestinian Claim; especially by HAMAS Jihadist.

So what if Israel has political recognition. It still occupies Palestine.
(COMMENT)

Recognition is recognition.

The right of self-determination is just that.

You can make your own assessment; and pretend all you want. I would not recommend that you actually try to practically apply that illusion and operate under that misconception. Infiltrators and illegal border crossers are treated like the criminals they are.

QUESTIONs: Who did Israel occupy? What sovereignty or government was occupied?

Most Respectfully,
R

The European Jews occupied an area called Palestine. The Europeans occupied an area called America. Sovereignty or government has nothing to do with it bozo.
The RCC forcibly removed the Jews and the Jews returned.
Presuming, of course, that as a good Christian, you reject the Roman conquest of Judea.

Correction: The Roman Empire, the Progenitors of the RCC.

Really? The Romans took some captives as slaves to be sure, but there is no historical or archaeological evidence of any mass deportations of the population of the Roman province of Judea; they just changed merged two of their provices into one called Syria Palaestina. What you need to remember is that the empire survived on taxation; the Romans weren't interested in extermination or depopulation, unless it was to make an example, something that was rarely if ever, necessary by Hadrian's time. Adherents to Judaism, however, were forbidden to return to Jerusalem once the Temple cult had been destroyed.





Change of tune ratboy as not that long ago you stated that all the Jews were evicted from Israel and taken as slaves by the roman invaders. The romans decided to enslave the Jews after they fought back and so the ones that become freedom fighters either died or were made into slaves. No such thing as a Temple cult it was Judaism that still carried on throughout the roman occupation and beyond. That is why the Jews worshipped at the West wall because their religion forbade them from entering the temple, which was the domain of the high priests. The Jews returned to Israel all the time and that is why under the Ottomans the population was always majority jews, shown by the census's carried out for the Sanjak of Jerusalem ( Judea and Samaria )
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

You did not answer the questions.

Objectively, there are two very key issues that must be addressed before a determination can be made on the assignment of the "Indigenous People" label.

• How far back in time are you accepting evidence of a culture with historical ties to the territory?
• How long does it take for a culture to be in place before it can be considered "Indigenous?"​
That is true. The population of Palestine has been in flux for thousands of years. It has been invaded, conquered and occupied. It was the center of major trade routes. Many people had come and gone.

However, there was a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. These are the people who built Palestine. They built the cities, towns, and hundreds of farm villages that produced a surplus of food that was exported to other countries.

These are the people of the place. A place called Palestine whose international borders were defined by post war treaties. These are the people who became citizens of Palestine.

Indigenous? How could you say not?
(COMMENT)

The Jewish immigration associate with the Balfour Declaration started nearly century ago. At what point are the Jewish people eligible to be called "indigenous" under your criteria. When, in the course of events, the Arab indigenous population ceases to be a population constituent of the region, and are replaced by the new constituent, is the new constituent the indigenous population? (Americans, for just over two hundred years, have controlled about four-fifths of America to date. At what point are the Americans indigenous to America?)

Israel the territory, for whatever reason, is dominated by Israelis. And the Arab, for whatever reason, have vacated the region. This is a scenario that has been played out a hundred times or more throughout the regional history. When do the Israeli become the "indigenous" population?

Of all the Arab Palestinians registered in the UNRWA CERI Database, how many actually lived in the territory now sovereign to Israel? They would have to be at least 67 years old. And how many will be left in 33 more years (100 years after Israeli Independence)? The number grows smaller all the time. Many of the registered refugees have more of a tie to the Refugee Camp than to any claim they might have had in Israel.

Who is indigenous to where?

Most Respectfully,
R

Interesting point. I would say colonisers can never be considered "indigenous" to the territory they colonise, unless perhaps, they interbreed with the indigenous population and they and their descendants evolve a new joint "culture" that becomes associated with that territory. The writer in the OP link is a "Métis" which would qualify, so would Mulattos.




Like the Jews did 4,500 years ago and have stayed on the land ever since ?

It was 2,500 years only a few minutes ago Phoney!

What's it to be? 2,500 years or 4,500 years?

Just for clarity you understand!




LIAR read it again or is English not your first language ?
 

So, all Palestinians with no titles or deeds wshatgsoever to the land they stole should leave. Don't you agree?

So should those bloody Brits... 40% of them have NO title or deed in the UK you know!

And as for 60% of the Germans having no title or deed... Well, send them back to where they came from!

Don't you agree?




Actually many more than that as they live in rented accommodation. I have deeds to my property going back to the 1700's when it was bequeathed as a wedding gift to the Earl of Zetlands daughter

Wow, well you are 'safe' then Phoney...

Those 40%+ Brits are in trouble... Where shall we send them? Damn squatters with no deeds!




Why are they when there are not enough private houses for them to buy, and being on low incomes they cant afford to buy. But they can trace their heritage in Britain back a lot further than the vast majority of arab muslim Palestinians can in Palestine.

You need to try and keep up with your fellow zionut Phoney!

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