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P F Tinmore, et al,
You did not answer the questions.
(COMMENT)Objectively, there are two very key issues that must be addressed before a determination can be made on the assignment of the "Indigenous People" label.
• How far back in time are you accepting evidence of a culture with historical ties to the territory?
• How long does it take for a culture to be in place before it can be considered "Indigenous?"That is true. The population of Palestine has been in flux for thousands of years. It has been invaded, conquered and occupied. It was the center of major trade routes. Many people had come and gone.
However, there was a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. These are the people who built Palestine. They built the cities, towns, and hundreds of farm villages that produced a surplus of food that was exported to other countries.
These are the people of the place. A place called Palestine whose international borders were defined by post war treaties. These are the people who became citizens of Palestine.
Indigenous? How could you say not?
The Jewish immigration associate with the Balfour Declaration started nearly century ago. At what point are the Jewish people eligible to be called "indigenous" under your criteria. When, in the course of events, the Arab indigenous population ceases to be a population constituent of the region, and are replaced by the new constituent, is the new constituent the indigenous population? (Americans, for just over two hundred years, have controlled about four-fifths of America to date. At what point are the Americans indigenous to America?)
Israel the territory, for whatever reason, is dominated by Israelis. And the Arab, for whatever reason, have vacated the region. This is a scenario that has been played out a hundred times or more throughout the regional history. When do the Israeli become the "indigenous" population?
Of all the Arab Palestinians registered in the UNRWA CERI Database, how many actually lived in the territory now sovereign to Israel? They would have to be at least 67 years old. And how many will be left in 33 more years (100 years after Israeli Independence)? The number grows smaller all the time. Many of the registered refugees have more of a tie to the Refugee Camp than to any claim they might have had in Israel.
Who is indigenous to where?
Most Respectfully,
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Interesting point. I would say colonisers can never be considered "indigenous" to the territory they colonise, unless perhaps, they interbreed with the indigenous population and they and their descendants evolve a new joint "culture" that becomes associated with that territory. The writer in the OP link is a "Métis" which would qualify, so would Mulattos.
Like the Jews did 4,500 years ago and have stayed on the land ever since ?
It was 2,500 years only a few minutes ago Phoney!
What's it to be? 2,500 years or 4,500 years?
Just for clarity you understand!