Indigenous Palestinians Were JEWS

[Kondor3]

montelatici, et al,

Well then, we have to consider the issue of longevity.

How about using the term "native" to a place or territory. This is in contrast from being born and resident elsewhere.

(COMMENT)

Native is another question.

View attachment 53247​

What we call today,in America as "Native Americans" are actually a composite of three different migrations and the outcome of several wars between tribes. Between 250 BC and 900 AD (known as the Woodland Period), archeological excavations show that intertribal warfare was intense with various tribes attempting to expand their domain. Some tribes completely disappeared; partly as an outcome of intertribal rivalry. Where I live, the Adena and Hopewell Indians were dated to the area as far back as the Paleo-indian Period (13,000 BC to 7,000 BC). But these two (native or indigenous) tribes were largely destroy and assimilated by the Shawnee of the Ohio Valley that did not escape westward. Now are the Shawnee considered Native American since they displaced the Shawnee? (Rhetorical) Of course they are Native Americans. Just as I am indigenous to the area.

It's like pornography and terrorism. I may not be able to legally define them, but I know them when I see them.

The Jews that established Israel in 1948, will soon be (if not already) indigenous to Israel. They've been there for over half a century; and soon there will no longer be any living survivor of the originally immigrants that came to the territory in the time before the establishment of the State. They will have been born there, and they will have grown-up there. The Arab Palestinians are exactly the opposite. Soon there will be no surviving migrants that lived in what is now Israel. There will not have been any remaining members that lived and grew-up in the territory. They will no longer be indigenous to what is now known as the State of Israel.

All peoples have some connection to the first humans that migrated out of Africa. We all came from someplace. And all the original migrants of 50K years ago have been replaced by someone else.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine, and the other new states in the region, came into being without the evolutionary or revolutionary processes of most other countries. Palestine's international borders were defined by post war treaties. Palestinians became Palestinian and citizens of Palestine by international law in 1924 and domestic law in 1925.

Nothing can undo that.

States rise and fall all the time.

Palestine was still-born.

 

[MJB12741]

...You are psycho who spreading hate but nothing and I will you terrorist as well to me any who killing innocent people is terrorist and Israel is number one terrorist and you are their propagandist agent.

Want Israel to stop killing so-called Palestinians?

Then the Palestinians must stop giving them reasons to kill them.

Stop the rocket barrages, stop the suicide attacks, stop the random attacks upon Israelis, and Israel will stop retaliating.

You are being squeezed off of the few postage-stamp -sized fragments of land that you still control, and you are being walled-off, to prevent you from harming sane people.

Not even your half-crazy Muslim-Arab neighbor-countries want anything to do with you - most of you are too Mad Dog -like for them to feel safe, taking you in.

Even stupid people know better than to poke at a Lion with blunt sticks.

In truth, you need to leave, and not come back.

Get your families out of there, while there is still time, and shake off the insanity of Hamas and Fatah, and build new and safe and happier lives, someplace else.

Meanwhile, put the stick down... before you get hurt again... assuming that you're smart enough to understand why it is necessary to put down the stick.

Palestinians attack Israel & kill one or more Israeli's. Israel retaliates. And then the Pali's & their supporters ***** about how many more dead Palestinians there are than Israeli's. It's called Palestinian mentality.

 

[montelatici]

...Because Lebanon, Jordan and Palestine and Syria used to be one country but your master divide the region so they can place Israel there as well why don't you understand dumb, this simple thing that they are all one nation before Israel.

What was the name of this so-called 'nation'?

With the exception of a little more than a century of Christian rule (1099 until 1291 AD) from 637 AD until the 14th century conquest by the Ottomans, the Arab Caliphates ruled what is now Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan Syria and well beyond.

 

[Phoenall]

It is sad but true that the only way to establish peace from Palestinians has been for Arab countries to massacre them by the tens of housands. Hopefully the Palestinains will learns to leave Israel some better option.

MJB what if you through from these problem, palestinian people are facing from Jews. I am sure then you would think properly instead.

What about the problems faced by the Jews from these Palestinian terrorists then. Maybe if you thought properly you would see that the blame lies with all of islam

Phoney,shoony,joony,poony means confused, can't you find any other job to feed yourself.

I am retired and self supporting, unlike you muslims who are the biggest scroungers on this earth.
I bet you would not dare say that to my face either being a coward, unless you had 10 heavily armed other muslims to back you up.

I am your worst nightmare as I have researched islam and the koran and know what your plans are.

You are psycho who spreading hate but nothing and I will you terrorist as well to me any who killing innocent people is terrorist and Israel is number one terrorist and you are their propagandist agent.

So you admit that the Palestinians are terrorist then as they attack with the intention of killing the innocent children.

The biggest terrorists are the muslims as shown by their attacks all over the world, just look at the genocides they have been involved in, and the terrorist attacks in America when 3000 innocents were mass murdered, or the terrorist attacks in London the mass murdered 50 innocents. Then look at Syria with 300,000 innocents mass murdered, Ethiopia when millions were mass murdered, Somali where millions are being murdered. lastly the Armenian massacre when 1 million were murdered by muslim terrorists, and India when 50 million innocents lost their lives as a direct result of islamonaxi terrorism

 

[Phoenall]

Nope.

Did Christians side with Muslim-Arab Palestinians in any appreciable numbers in the 1948 War?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, after all.

Was the elimination of Turkish-Palestinian Muslim-Arab tyranny and dhimmitude something that the Christians wanted to continue?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, either.

You're ubiquitous, Tinny, but not exactly formidable.

The Palestinians (Muslims & Christians) had no army. The war just happened around them. Israel ethnically cleansed the Palestinians. Their religion didn't matter.

At the time of the creation of the Israeli state in 1948, it is estimated that the Christians of Palestine numbered some 350,000. Almost 20 percent of the total population at the time, they constituted a vibrant and ancient community; their forbears had listened to St. Peter in Jerusalem as he preached at the first Pentecost. Yet Zionist doctrine held that Palestine was “a land without a people for a people without a land.” Of the 750,000 Palestinians that were forced from their homes in 1948, some 50,000 were Christians—7 percent of the total number of refugees and 35 percent of the total number of Christians living in Palestine at the time.

In the process of “Judaizing” Palestine, numerous convents, hospices, seminaries, and churches were either destroyed or cleared of their Christian owners and custodians. In one of the most spectacular attacks on a Christian target, on May 17, 1948, the Armenian Orthodox Patriarchate was shelled with about 100 mortar rounds—launched by Zionist forces from the already occupied monastery of the Benedictine Fathers on Mount Zion. The bombardment also damaged St. Jacob’s Convent, the Archangel’s Convent, and their appended churches, their two elementary and seminary schools, as well as their libraries, killing eight people and wounding 120.

Forgotten Christians​

Look at your source and tell the board with a straight face that they are unbiased

Are you implying that they made this up? Israel hates Christians the same as Muslims.

Yes I am as I cant see how Lebanon has anything to do with Israel, and why do you trot out this propaganda crap all the time.

Because Lebanon, Jordan and Palestine and Syria used to be one country but your master divide the region so they can place Israel there as well why don't you understand dumb, this simple thing that they are all one nation before Israel.

What country was that then, and who was its ruler under the Ottomans. When did it come into existence and what was its capital

 

[Phoenall]

Nope.

Did Christians side with Muslim-Arab Palestinians in any appreciable numbers in the 1948 War?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, after all.

Was the elimination of Turkish-Palestinian Muslim-Arab tyranny and dhimmitude something that the Christians wanted to continue?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, either.

You're ubiquitous, Tinny, but not exactly formidable.

The Palestinians (Muslims & Christians) had no army. The war just happened around them. Israel ethnically cleansed the Palestinians. Their religion didn't matter.

At the time of the creation of the Israeli state in 1948, it is estimated that the Christians of Palestine numbered some 350,000. Almost 20 percent of the total population at the time, they constituted a vibrant and ancient community; their forbears had listened to St. Peter in Jerusalem as he preached at the first Pentecost. Yet Zionist doctrine held that Palestine was “a land without a people for a people without a land.” Of the 750,000 Palestinians that were forced from their homes in 1948, some 50,000 were Christians—7 percent of the total number of refugees and 35 percent of the total number of Christians living in Palestine at the time.

In the process of “Judaizing” Palestine, numerous convents, hospices, seminaries, and churches were either destroyed or cleared of their Christian owners and custodians. In one of the most spectacular attacks on a Christian target, on May 17, 1948, the Armenian Orthodox Patriarchate was shelled with about 100 mortar rounds—launched by Zionist forces from the already occupied monastery of the Benedictine Fathers on Mount Zion. The bombardment also damaged St. Jacob’s Convent, the Archangel’s Convent, and their appended churches, their two elementary and seminary schools, as well as their libraries, killing eight people and wounding 120.

Forgotten Christians​

Look at your source and tell the board with a straight face that they are unbiased

Are you implying that they made this up? Israel hates Christians the same as Muslims.

Yes I am as I cant see how Lebanon has anything to do with Israel, and why do you trot out this propaganda crap all the time.

The video was not about Lebanon.

You need to keep up.

Then why was LEBANON plastered all across the screen then. It is you that needs to keep up

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, et al,

Well then, we have to consider the issue of longevity.

How about using the term "native" to a place or territory. This is in contrast from being born and resident elsewhere.

(COMMENT)

Native is another question.

View attachment 53247​

What we call today,in America as "Native Americans" are actually a composite of three different migrations and the outcome of several wars between tribes. Between 250 BC and 900 AD (known as the Woodland Period), archeological excavations show that intertribal warfare was intense with various tribes attempting to expand their domain. Some tribes completely disappeared; partly as an outcome of intertribal rivalry. Where I live, the Adena and Hopewell Indians were dated to the area as far back as the Paleo-indian Period (13,000 BC to 7,000 BC). But these two (native or indigenous) tribes were largely destroy and assimilated by the Shawnee of the Ohio Valley that did not escape westward. Now are the Shawnee considered Native American since they displaced the Shawnee? (Rhetorical) Of course they are Native Americans. Just as I am indigenous to the area.

It's like pornography and terrorism. I may not be able to legally define them, but I know them when I see them.

The Jews that established Israel in 1948, will soon be (if not already) indigenous to Israel. They've been there for over half a century; and soon there will no longer be any living survivor of the originally immigrants that came to the territory in the time before the establishment of the State. They will have been born there, and they will have grown-up there. The Arab Palestinians are exactly the opposite. Soon there will be no surviving migrants that lived in what is now Israel. There will not have been any remaining members that lived and grew-up in the territory. They will no longer be indigenous to what is now known as the State of Israel.

All peoples have some connection to the first humans that migrated out of Africa. We all came from someplace. And all the original migrants of 50K years ago have been replaced by someone else.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine, and the other new states in the region, came into being without the evolutionary or revolutionary processes of most other countries. Palestine's international borders were defined by post war treaties. Palestinians became Palestinian and citizens of Palestine by international law in 1924 and domestic law in 1925.

Nothing can undo that.

Apart from it never happened like that did it. How about showing these post war treaties that made Palestine a nation, and show the Palestinian leaders signature at the bottom ? Don't forget the LoN treaties say that this is the extent of the mandate for Palestine hereinafter referred to as Palestine

 

[Phoenall]

...Because Lebanon, Jordan and Palestine and Syria used to be one country but your master divide the region so they can place Israel there as well why don't you understand dumb, this simple thing that they are all one nation before Israel.

What was the name of this so-called 'nation'?

With the exception of a little more than a century of Christian rule (1099 until 1291 AD) from 637 AD until the 14th century conquest by the Ottomans, the Arab Caliphates ruled what is now Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan Syria and well beyond.

WRONG try again as the arab muslims only ruled Palestine for 22 years.

 

[Kondor3]

...Because Lebanon, Jordan and Palestine and Syria used to be one country but your master divide the region so they can place Israel there as well why don't you understand dumb, this simple thing that they are all one nation before Israel.

What was the name of this so-called 'nation'?

With the exception of a little more than a century of Christian rule (1099 until 1291 AD) from 637 AD until the 14th century conquest by the Ottomans, the Arab Caliphates ruled what is now Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon, Jordan Syria and well beyond.

That's not what your colleague said.

He-she-it claimed that somebody's "master" had arranged to subdivide the region so they could 'place Israel there'.

This specificity pertains to a modern-era nation-state - supposedly "one country", according to your colleague.

The challenge to your colleague was to identify that "one country" that was parsed to make room for Israel.

And, your own defaulting to ancient history notwithstanding, the question still stands...

In the context of a country that was divided to make room for modern-day Israel...

What was the name of this so-called 'nation'?

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< this ought to be good, coming from anyone silly enough to try to answer it with a straight face >

 

[montelatici]

You need to look up what "ancient" refers to. Certainly not the 14th century.

What was divided to make room for the European invaders was the unitary Turkish state.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I think you have made a mistake.

montelatici, et al,

Well then, we have to consider the issue of longevity.

How about using the term "native" to a place or territory. This is in contrast from being born and resident elsewhere.

(COMMENT)

Native is another question.

View attachment 53247​

What we call today,in America as "Native Americans" are actually a composite of three different migrations and the outcome of several wars between tribes. Between 250 BC and 900 AD (known as the Woodland Period), archeological excavations show that intertribal warfare was intense with various tribes attempting to expand their domain. Some tribes completely disappeared; partly as an outcome of intertribal rivalry. Where I live, the Adena and Hopewell Indians were dated to the area as far back as the Paleo-indian Period (13,000 BC to 7,000 BC). But these two (native or indigenous) tribes were largely destroy and assimilated by the Shawnee of the Ohio Valley that did not escape westward. Now are the Shawnee considered Native American since they displaced the Shawnee? (Rhetorical) Of course they are Native Americans. Just as I am indigenous to the area.

It's like pornography and terrorism. I may not be able to legally define them, but I know them when I see them.

The Jews that established Israel in 1948, will soon be (if not already) indigenous to Israel. They've been there for over half a century; and soon there will no longer be any living survivor of the originally immigrants that came to the territory in the time before the establishment of the State. They will have been born there, and they will have grown-up there. The Arab Palestinians are exactly the opposite. Soon there will be no surviving migrants that lived in what is now Israel. There will not have been any remaining members that lived and grew-up in the territory. They will no longer be indigenous to what is now known as the State of Israel.

All peoples have some connection to the first humans that migrated out of Africa. We all came from someplace. And all the original migrants of 50K years ago have been replaced by someone else.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine, and the other new states in the region, came into being without the evolutionary or revolutionary processes of most other countries. Palestine's international borders were defined by post war treaties. Palestinians became Palestinian and citizens of Palestine by international law in 1924 and domestic law in 1925.

Nothing can undo that.

(COMMENT)

There is no WWI era treaty that outlines the borders of Palestine, the territory to which the mandate applied.

The Allied Powers had not taken a position on that yet. The Paulet-Newcombe Agreement had been approved. But that only delineated the line between the French Mandate Area and the British Mandate Area.

On 15 May 1923, Britain formally recognized the Emirate of Transjordan as a state under the leadership of Emir Abdullah; pursuant to Article 22 of the Covenant (24 July 1923). While the Paulet-Newcombe Agreement (7 March 1923) established the northern border for the territory subject to the Mandate, it was the formal recognition of the Emirate of Transjordan as a state under the leadership of Emir Abdullah that set the western edge of the provisional recognition. This effectively established the eastern boundary of the territory subject to the Mandate of Palestine (less Jordan) and the western border of the Emirate (Jordan).

On March 22, 1946, Anglo-Transjordanian Treaty recognized the sovereignty of Transjoran, and closed the Mandate authority over the Emirate --- recognizing the status of Transjordan as a fully-independent State and the Emir as the sovereign thereof.

Order of events:

• 7 March 1923 Approval of Paulet-Newcombe Agreement
• 15 May 1923, Formal recognition of the Emirate of Transjordan
• 24 July 1923, Treaty of Lausanne (came into force on 6 August 1924)
​

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I think you have made a mistake.

montelatici, et al,

Well then, we have to consider the issue of longevity.

How about using the term "native" to a place or territory. This is in contrast from being born and resident elsewhere.

(COMMENT)

Native is another question.

View attachment 53247​

What we call today,in America as "Native Americans" are actually a composite of three different migrations and the outcome of several wars between tribes. Between 250 BC and 900 AD (known as the Woodland Period), archeological excavations show that intertribal warfare was intense with various tribes attempting to expand their domain. Some tribes completely disappeared; partly as an outcome of intertribal rivalry. Where I live, the Adena and Hopewell Indians were dated to the area as far back as the Paleo-indian Period (13,000 BC to 7,000 BC). But these two (native or indigenous) tribes were largely destroy and assimilated by the Shawnee of the Ohio Valley that did not escape westward. Now are the Shawnee considered Native American since they displaced the Shawnee? (Rhetorical) Of course they are Native Americans. Just as I am indigenous to the area.

It's like pornography and terrorism. I may not be able to legally define them, but I know them when I see them.

The Jews that established Israel in 1948, will soon be (if not already) indigenous to Israel. They've been there for over half a century; and soon there will no longer be any living survivor of the originally immigrants that came to the territory in the time before the establishment of the State. They will have been born there, and they will have grown-up there. The Arab Palestinians are exactly the opposite. Soon there will be no surviving migrants that lived in what is now Israel. There will not have been any remaining members that lived and grew-up in the territory. They will no longer be indigenous to what is now known as the State of Israel.

All peoples have some connection to the first humans that migrated out of Africa. We all came from someplace. And all the original migrants of 50K years ago have been replaced by someone else.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine, and the other new states in the region, came into being without the evolutionary or revolutionary processes of most other countries. Palestine's international borders were defined by post war treaties. Palestinians became Palestinian and citizens of Palestine by international law in 1924 and domestic law in 1925.

Nothing can undo that.

(COMMENT)

There is no WWI era treaty that outlines the borders of Palestine, the territory to which the mandate applied.

The Allied Powers had not taken a position on that yet. The Paulet-Newcombe Agreement had been approved. But that only delineated the line between the French Mandate Area and the British Mandate Area.

On 15 May 1923, Britain formally recognized the Emirate of Transjordan as a state under the leadership of Emir Abdullah; pursuant to Article 22 of the Covenant (24 July 1923). While the Paulet-Newcombe Agreement (7 March 1923) established the northern border for the territory subject to the Mandate, it was the formal recognition of the Emirate of Transjordan as a state under the leadership of Emir Abdullah that set the western edge of the provisional recognition. This effectively established the eastern boundary of the territory subject to the Mandate of Palestine (less Jordan) and the western border of the Emirate (Jordan).

On March 22, 1946, Anglo-Transjordanian Treaty recognized the sovereignty of Transjoran, and closed the Mandate authority over the Emirate --- recognizing the status of Transjordan as a fully-independent State and the Emir as the sovereign thereof.

Order of events:

• 7 March 1923 Approval of Paulet-Newcombe Agreement
• 15 May 1923, Formal recognition of the Emirate of Transjordan
• 24 July 1923, Treaty of Lausanne (came into force on 6 August 1924)
​

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, what part of all that refutes my post?

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

All of it refutes your post.

I think you have made a mistake.

montelatici, et al,

Well then, we have to consider the issue of longevity.

How about using the term "native" to a place or territory. This is in contrast from being born and resident elsewhere.

(COMMENT)

Native is another question.

View attachment 53247​

What we call today,in America as "Native Americans" are actually a composite of three different migrations and the outcome of several wars between tribes. Between 250 BC and 900 AD (known as the Woodland Period), archeological excavations show that intertribal warfare was intense with various tribes attempting to expand their domain. Some tribes completely disappeared; partly as an outcome of intertribal rivalry. Where I live, the Adena and Hopewell Indians were dated to the area as far back as the Paleo-indian Period (13,000 BC to 7,000 BC). But these two (native or indigenous) tribes were largely destroy and assimilated by the Shawnee of the Ohio Valley that did not escape westward. Now are the Shawnee considered Native American since they displaced the Shawnee? (Rhetorical) Of course they are Native Americans. Just as I am indigenous to the area.

It's like pornography and terrorism. I may not be able to legally define them, but I know them when I see them.

The Jews that established Israel in 1948, will soon be (if not already) indigenous to Israel. They've been there for over half a century; and soon there will no longer be any living survivor of the originally immigrants that came to the territory in the time before the establishment of the State. They will have been born there, and they will have grown-up there. The Arab Palestinians are exactly the opposite. Soon there will be no surviving migrants that lived in what is now Israel. There will not have been any remaining members that lived and grew-up in the territory. They will no longer be indigenous to what is now known as the State of Israel.

All peoples have some connection to the first humans that migrated out of Africa. We all came from someplace. And all the original migrants of 50K years ago have been replaced by someone else.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine, and the other new states in the region, came into being without the evolutionary or revolutionary processes of most other countries. Palestine's international borders were defined by post war treaties. Palestinians became Palestinian and citizens of Palestine by international law in 1924 and domestic law in 1925.

Nothing can undo that.

(COMMENT)

There is no WWI era treaty that outlines the borders of Palestine, the territory to which the mandate applied.

The Allied Powers had not taken a position on that yet. The Paulet-Newcombe Agreement had been approved. But that only delineated the line between the French Mandate Area and the British Mandate Area.

On 15 May 1923, Britain formally recognized the Emirate of Transjordan as a state under the leadership of Emir Abdullah; pursuant to Article 22 of the Covenant (24 July 1923). While the Paulet-Newcombe Agreement (7 March 1923) established the northern border for the territory subject to the Mandate, it was the formal recognition of the Emirate of Transjordan as a state under the leadership of Emir Abdullah that set the western edge of the provisional recognition. This effectively established the eastern boundary of the territory subject to the Mandate of Palestine (less Jordan) and the western border of the Emirate (Jordan).

On March 22, 1946, Anglo-Transjordanian Treaty recognized the sovereignty of Transjoran, and closed the Mandate authority over the Emirate --- recognizing the status of Transjordan as a fully-independent State and the Emir as the sovereign thereof.

Order of events:

• 7 March 1923 Approval of Paulet-Newcombe Agreement
• 15 May 1923, Formal recognition of the Emirate of Transjordan
• 24 July 1923, Treaty of Lausanne (came into force on 6 August 1924)
​

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, what part of all that refutes my post?

(COMMENT)

THERE is "NO Palestine's international borders were defined by post war treaties." No citizenship of a independent nation.

They became citizens of the Mandatory Government for the Territory to which the Mandate was applied.

The Palestine Order in Council and the Citizenship Order are League Council Orders to the Mandatory. They are not international laws. The League was not a legislative or judicial body.

I am challenging the statement "Palestine's international borders were defined by post war treaties." What treaties and where are the boundaries defined?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Kondor3]

You need to look up what "ancient" refers to. Certainly not the 14th century.

What was divided to make room for the European invaders was the unitary Turkish state.

The Turkish Ottoman Empire had been 'The Sick Man of Europe' for a couple of centuries prior to their poor choice of allies in WWI.

The Ottoman Empire was not broken up to make room for a Jewish state, otherwise, Jews would also control vast regions which they do not presently control.

The Ottoman Empire was broken up because it had threatened Europe for centuries, up to the 18th, anyway, and, collectively, Europe wanted it crushed like a bug, so that it could never rise up again, to threaten Vienna, or an independent Greece, or to wage another Battle of Lepanto in the Med.

The insertion of a Jewish homeland was an afterthought and sideshow - not a primary and driving motive.

Your problem here is that you cannot make such a sale to those who actually know a little something about Euro-Turkic relations and history, like you can with the Great Unwashed.

Epic Fail.

 

[Phoenall]

You need to look up what "ancient" refers to. Certainly not the 14th century.

What was divided to make room for the European invaders was the unitary Turkish state.

The Middle East originally owned by the Ottomans

 

[Humanity]

Just curious, who's taht guy with Hitler? Is it a Zionist?

http://blog.thecovertletter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Mufti-and-Hitler.jpg

What? Is it Netanyahu?

Bum chums together!

Definitely bum chums as I believe that is the initiation into islam, or so I have been told

What a stupidly immature response!

 

[Phoenall]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I think you have made a mistake.

montelatici, et al,

Well then, we have to consider the issue of longevity.

How about using the term "native" to a place or territory. This is in contrast from being born and resident elsewhere.

(COMMENT)

Native is another question.

View attachment 53247​

What we call today,in America as "Native Americans" are actually a composite of three different migrations and the outcome of several wars between tribes. Between 250 BC and 900 AD (known as the Woodland Period), archeological excavations show that intertribal warfare was intense with various tribes attempting to expand their domain. Some tribes completely disappeared; partly as an outcome of intertribal rivalry. Where I live, the Adena and Hopewell Indians were dated to the area as far back as the Paleo-indian Period (13,000 BC to 7,000 BC). But these two (native or indigenous) tribes were largely destroy and assimilated by the Shawnee of the Ohio Valley that did not escape westward. Now are the Shawnee considered Native American since they displaced the Shawnee? (Rhetorical) Of course they are Native Americans. Just as I am indigenous to the area.

It's like pornography and terrorism. I may not be able to legally define them, but I know them when I see them.

The Jews that established Israel in 1948, will soon be (if not already) indigenous to Israel. They've been there for over half a century; and soon there will no longer be any living survivor of the originally immigrants that came to the territory in the time before the establishment of the State. They will have been born there, and they will have grown-up there. The Arab Palestinians are exactly the opposite. Soon there will be no surviving migrants that lived in what is now Israel. There will not have been any remaining members that lived and grew-up in the territory. They will no longer be indigenous to what is now known as the State of Israel.

All peoples have some connection to the first humans that migrated out of Africa. We all came from someplace. And all the original migrants of 50K years ago have been replaced by someone else.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine, and the other new states in the region, came into being without the evolutionary or revolutionary processes of most other countries. Palestine's international borders were defined by post war treaties. Palestinians became Palestinian and citizens of Palestine by international law in 1924 and domestic law in 1925.

Nothing can undo that.

(COMMENT)

There is no WWI era treaty that outlines the borders of Palestine, the territory to which the mandate applied.

The Allied Powers had not taken a position on that yet. The Paulet-Newcombe Agreement had been approved. But that only delineated the line between the French Mandate Area and the British Mandate Area.

On 15 May 1923, Britain formally recognized the Emirate of Transjordan as a state under the leadership of Emir Abdullah; pursuant to Article 22 of the Covenant (24 July 1923). While the Paulet-Newcombe Agreement (7 March 1923) established the northern border for the territory subject to the Mandate, it was the formal recognition of the Emirate of Transjordan as a state under the leadership of Emir Abdullah that set the western edge of the provisional recognition. This effectively established the eastern boundary of the territory subject to the Mandate of Palestine (less Jordan) and the western border of the Emirate (Jordan).

On March 22, 1946, Anglo-Transjordanian Treaty recognized the sovereignty of Transjoran, and closed the Mandate authority over the Emirate --- recognizing the status of Transjordan as a fully-independent State and the Emir as the sovereign thereof.

Order of events:

• 7 March 1923 Approval of Paulet-Newcombe Agreement
• 15 May 1923, Formal recognition of the Emirate of Transjordan
• 24 July 1923, Treaty of Lausanne (came into force on 6 August 1924)
​

Most Respectfully,
R

OK, what part of all that refutes my post?

All of it as it shows that no nation of Palestine existed before 1988

 

[Phoenall]

Just curious, who's taht guy with Hitler? Is it a Zionist?

http://blog.thecovertletter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Mufti-and-Hitler.jpg

What? Is it Netanyahu?

Bum chums together!

Definitely bum chums as I believe that is the initiation into islam, or so I have been told

What a stupidly immature response!

No it shows what you muslims are like, sodomy is allowed as long as it is just animal urges and not attraction.

 

[Humanity]

...Are you implying that they made this up? Israel hates Christians the same as Muslims...

Nonsense.

More Muslim tactics attempting to Divide and Conquer - to create a split between Israel and The West.

No sale.

"Muslim tactics" Not necessary...

Israel is doing a great job in creating a split between them and the west all by itself

 

[Humanity]

Just curious, who's taht guy with Hitler? Is it a Zionist?

http://blog.thecovertletter.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Mufti-and-Hitler.jpg

What? Is it Netanyahu?

Bum chums together!

Definitely bum chums as I believe that is the initiation into islam, or so I have been told

What a stupidly immature response!

No it shows what you muslims are like, sodomy is allowed as long as it is just animal urges and not attraction.

No it shows you as the rather ridiculous, immature, racist zionut that you are