Indigenous Palestinians Were JEWS

[montelatici]

montelatici, et al,

Does it really make a difference?

...Great Britain that was intent on establishing a European colony in Palestine by resettling Europeans there...

More like the Brits desired to establish a Trip-Wire and Listening Post and Buffer-State between the slowing resurgent Muslims and The West.

Not to mention helping return the Original People of The Book to their Spiritual Mothership, while thinning-out the Jewish population in Christian Europe.

...and facilitating the eviction of the Muslims and Christians...

Nahhhhh... just the Muslims... the Christians were not to be touched.

...Of course they would rebel against the British.

Well, the Muslims, anyway... it's not like Christians joined-in, in any appreciable numbers.

For Christians, getting out from under the heel of Muslim tyranny and dhimmitude was a blessing, and Jews of Nova Yisrael could be counted on to leave them alone.

You are full of shit as usual.

What a shame that neighboring Islamist nations refuse a right of return for their Arab / Islamist homies you incorrectly call Pal'istanians.

But as we know, Lebanon made the crucial mistake of allowing Arab / Islamist faux Pal'istanians across their border and that caused them nothing but a disaster.

The funny thing is, these nutcases really do believe the European invaders of Palestine are indigenous and the indigenous Christians and Muslims come from somewhere else. Even with documentary film evidence they are so brainwashed they continue with their nonsensical assertions. You couldn't make this stuff up.

(COMMENT)

You cannot even define what the term indigenous population means in terms of international law. Are you a habitual resident to the location where you now reside?

The designation of indigenous people is a red herring; and forming an argument around that kernel is a red herring. The Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (A/RES/61/295) is a 21st Century concept expressed in a non-binding resolution. It is neither temporally applicable to the 1948-thru-1973 Arab Israel Conflicts, nor is it applicable to the any aspect prior to 2007. (Note: The concept of Indigenous People is not reflected in the UDHR, CESCR or the CCPR.)

What has Entry into force of the Covenants ---

• The International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights entered into force on 3 January 1976, three months after the date of deposit with the Secretary-General of the thirty-fifth instrument of ratification or accession, as provided in article 27. As at 30 September 1995, the Covenant had been ratified or acceded to by 132 States.

• The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights entered into force on 23 March 1976, three months after the date of deposit with the Secretary-General of the thirty-fifth instrument of ratification or accession, as provided in article 49. As at 30 September 1995, the Covenant had been ratified or acceded to by 132 States.
​

(QUESTIONS)

Think about your definition of an indigenous person.

• Where do you live?
• Are you indigenous to your local?
• When did you become indigenous?

Most Respectfully,
R

How about using the term "native" to a place or territory. This is in contrast from being born and resident elsewhere.

 

[P F Tinmore]

...Well, the Muslims, anyway... it's not like Christians joined-in, in any appreciable numbers. For Christians, getting out from under the heel of Muslim tyranny and dhimmitude was a blessing, and Jews of Nova Yisrael could be counted on to leave them alone.

You are full of shit as usual.

Nope.

Did Christians side with Muslim-Arab Palestinians in any appreciable numbers in the 1948 War?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, after all.

Was the elimination of Turkish-Palestinian Muslim-Arab tyranny and dhimmitude something that the Christians wanted to continue?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, either.

You're ubiquitous, Tinny, but not exactly formidable.

The Palestinians (Muslims & Christians) had no army. The war just happened around them. Israel ethnically cleansed the Palestinians. Their religion didn't matter.

At the time of the creation of the Israeli state in 1948, it is estimated that the Christians of Palestine numbered some 350,000. Almost 20 percent of the total population at the time, they constituted a vibrant and ancient community; their forbears had listened to St. Peter in Jerusalem as he preached at the first Pentecost. Yet Zionist doctrine held that Palestine was “a land without a people for a people without a land.” Of the 750,000 Palestinians that were forced from their homes in 1948, some 50,000 were Christians—7 percent of the total number of refugees and 35 percent of the total number of Christians living in Palestine at the time.

In the process of “Judaizing” Palestine, numerous convents, hospices, seminaries, and churches were either destroyed or cleared of their Christian owners and custodians. In one of the most spectacular attacks on a Christian target, on May 17, 1948, the Armenian Orthodox Patriarchate was shelled with about 100 mortar rounds—launched by Zionist forces from the already occupied monastery of the Benedictine Fathers on Mount Zion. The bombardment also damaged St. Jacob’s Convent, the Archangel’s Convent, and their appended churches, their two elementary and seminary schools, as well as their libraries, killing eight people and wounding 120.

Forgotten Christians​

Look at your source and tell the board with a straight face that they are unbiased

Are you implying that they made this up? Israel hates Christians the same as Muslims.

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

Well then, we have to consider the issue of longevity.

How about using the term "native" to a place or territory. This is in contrast from being born and resident elsewhere.

(COMMENT)

Native is another question.

​

What we call today,in America as "Native Americans" are actually a composite of three different migrations and the outcome of several wars between tribes. Between 250 BC and 900 AD (known as the Woodland Period), archeological excavations show that intertribal warfare was intense with various tribes attempting to expand their domain. Some tribes completely disappeared; partly as an outcome of intertribal rivalry. Where I live, the Adena and Hopewell Indians were dated to the area as far back as the Paleo-indian Period (13,000 BC to 7,000 BC). But these two (native or indigenous) tribes were largely destroy and assimilated by the Shawnee of the Ohio Valley that did not escape westward. Now are the Shawnee considered Native American since they displaced the Shawnee? (Rhetorical) Of course they are Native Americans. Just as I am indigenous to the area.

It's like pornography and terrorism. I may not be able to legally define them, but I know them when I see them.

The Jews that established Israel in 1948, will soon be (if not already) indigenous to Israel. They've been there for over half a century; and soon there will no longer be any living survivor of the originally immigrants that came to the territory in the time before the establishment of the State. They will have been born there, and they will have grown-up there. The Arab Palestinians are exactly the opposite. Soon there will be no surviving migrants that lived in what is now Israel. There will not have been any remaining members that lived and grew-up in the territory. They will no longer be indigenous to what is now known as the State of Israel.

All peoples have some connection to the first humans that migrated out of Africa. We all came from someplace. And all the original migrants of 50K years ago have been replaced by someone else.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Kondor3]

...The Palestinians (Muslims & Christians) had no army...

The Muslim-Arab Palestinians had militias, and these ran like rabbits in 1948, when confronted with Jewish militia units.

The Christian Palestinians had no militias, and did not joint those of their Muslim neighbors nor the armies of their Muslim neighbor-countries, in any appreciable numbers, at any time during the past 67 years. They know that they would fare even worse, once again, as Dhimmis to the Muslims; that would be like jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.

...The war just happened around them. Israel ethnically cleansed the Palestinians...

Yep. The Muslim-Arabs had already proven themselves to be Mad Dogs in their dealings with their Jewish neighbors, in the years and decades prior to 1948, and could not be trusted to live alongside the Jews in peace. So they pushed them out of the way as a survival tactic. In their place, you would have done the same, even though you'll never admit it.

...Their religion didn't matter...

An existential threat is an existential threat; including the occupying of land deemed too close to one's own, to ensure survival and safety of one's own.

...At the time of the creation of the Israeli state in 1948, it is estimated that the Christians of Palestine numbered some 350,000...

Yep.

Christians were killed and hurt and displaced too. Difficult for that not to happen, during the course of an existential birthing-war.

But they were not killed and hurt and displaced at anything like the same rate (never mind actual volume) as the far more hostile and lethal Muslim-Arab adversary.

Had Israel directed an intentional and sustained campaign against Christians, the State of Israel would not have enjoyed the support of much of Europe, the US, and The West.

Most damage or loss inflicted upon Christian folk nowadays is a matter of mere land-acquisition, not blood feuding, as is the case with the Mad Dog Muslim-Arabs of the region.

 

[Kondor3]

...Are you implying that they made this up? Israel hates Christians the same as Muslims...

Nonsense.

More Muslim tactics attempting to Divide and Conquer - to create a split between Israel and The West.

No sale.

 

[Kondor3]

...Not forgotten Christians, just ethnically cleansed Christians as is the case with Christianity throughout the muhammedan Middle East.

Christianity is not even an 'ethnicity'.

And, if one wants to see a modern-day example of the persecution of Christians, one need look no further than Saudi Arabia - the Mothership of Islam.

 

[Kondor3]

...Well, the Muslims, anyway... it's not like Christians joined-in, in any appreciable numbers. For Christians, getting out from under the heel of Muslim tyranny and dhimmitude was a blessing, and Jews of Nova Yisrael could be counted on to leave them alone.

You are full of shit as usual.

Nope.

Did Christians side with Muslim-Arab Palestinians in any appreciable numbers in the 1948 War?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, after all.

Was the elimination of Turkish-Palestinian Muslim-Arab tyranny and dhimmitude something that the Christians wanted to continue?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, either.

You're ubiquitous, Tinny, but not exactly formidable.

"Did Christians side with Muslim-Arab Palestinians in any appreciable numbers in the 1948 War?"

Of course they did, they fought alongside Muslim Palestinians in mixed militias in defense of Palestine, and there were also all-Christian militias such as the Defenders of Beit Jala.

Arab Christians in British Mandate Palestine: Communalism and Nationalism, 1917-1948

"Was the elimination of Turkish-Palestinian Muslim-Arab tyranny and dhimmitude something that the Christians wanted to continue?"

You should probably stay off the sauce when you post. Reread what you wrote, it makes no sense.

However, Christian Palestinians stood (and still stand) shoulder to shoulder with fellow Muslim Palestinians against Zionist Israel. Christians, were key members of the Arab Delegation sent to London to lobby for independence after WW 1.

".....your Delegation is recognised by Mr. Churchill as representing a large section of the Moslem and Christian inhabitants of Palestine, ...."


a - See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

A lot has happened since WWI.

Christians and Muslims were never 'close', and the events of recent decades have only served to widen the breach.

 

[MJB12741]

...Well, the Muslims, anyway... it's not like Christians joined-in, in any appreciable numbers. For Christians, getting out from under the heel of Muslim tyranny and dhimmitude was a blessing, and Jews of Nova Yisrael could be counted on to leave them alone.

You are full of shit as usual.

Nope.

Did Christians side with Muslim-Arab Palestinians in any appreciable numbers in the 1948 War?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, after all.

Was the elimination of Turkish-Palestinian Muslim-Arab tyranny and dhimmitude something that the Christians wanted to continue?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, either.

You're ubiquitous, Tinny, but not exactly formidable.

"Did Christians side with Muslim-Arab Palestinians in any appreciable numbers in the 1948 War?"

Of course they did, they fought alongside Muslim Palestinians in mixed militias in defense of Palestine, and there were also all-Christian militias such as the Defenders of Beit Jala.

Arab Christians in British Mandate Palestine: Communalism and Nationalism, 1917-1948

"Was the elimination of Turkish-Palestinian Muslim-Arab tyranny and dhimmitude something that the Christians wanted to continue?"

You should probably stay off the sauce when you post. Reread what you wrote, it makes no sense.

However, Christian Palestinians stood (and still stand) shoulder to shoulder with fellow Muslim Palestinians against Zionist Israel. Christians, were key members of the Arab Delegation sent to London to lobby for independence after WW 1.

".....your Delegation is recognised by Mr. Churchill as representing a large section of the Moslem and Christian inhabitants of Palestine, ...."


a - See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

A lot has happened since WWI.

Christians and Muslims were never 'close', and the events of recent decades have only served to widen the breach.

All one has to do is look at the Christians all over the world being captured & killed by radical Islamists supported by Palestinians & their friends. Like Monte says, Muslims get along just great with their love for Christians. Right Pali supporters?

List of Islamic Terror Attacks on Christians

 

[montelatici]

montelatici, et al,

Well then, we have to consider the issue of longevity.

How about using the term "native" to a place or territory. This is in contrast from being born and resident elsewhere.

(COMMENT)

Native is another question.

View attachment 53247​

What we call today,in America as "Native Americans" are actually a composite of three different migrations and the outcome of several wars between tribes. Between 250 BC and 900 AD (known as the Woodland Period), archeological excavations show that intertribal warfare was intense with various tribes attempting to expand their domain. Some tribes completely disappeared; partly as an outcome of intertribal rivalry. Where I live, the Adena and Hopewell Indians were dated to the area as far back as the Paleo-indian Period (13,000 BC to 7,000 BC). But these two (native or indigenous) tribes were largely destroy and assimilated by the Shawnee of the Ohio Valley that did not escape westward. Now are the Shawnee considered Native American since they displaced the Shawnee? (Rhetorical) Of course they are Native Americans. Just as I am indigenous to the area.

It's like pornography and terrorism. I may not be able to legally define them, but I know them when I see them.

The Jews that established Israel in 1948, will soon be (if not already) indigenous to Israel. They've been there for over half a century; and soon there will no longer be any living survivor of the originally immigrants that came to the territory in the time before the establishment of the State. They will have been born there, and they will have grown-up there. The Arab Palestinians are exactly the opposite. Soon there will be no surviving migrants that lived in what is now Israel. There will not have been any remaining members that lived and grew-up in the territory. They will no longer be indigenous to what is now known as the State of Israel.

All peoples have some connection to the first humans that migrated out of Africa. We all came from someplace. And all the original migrants of 50K years ago have been replaced by someone else.

Most Respectfully,
R

No, we do not have to consider longevity at all. Unless a colonial enterprise is able to completely destroy the culture and depopulate or substantially out reproduce the people they are attempting to displace, the native people will; eventually regain their land. This is what happened in Algeria, South Africa, Rhodesia, Southwest Africa etc. In North America the colonial enterprises were able to eliminate the native population in most areas. In others, like Bolivia, the native people survived and now outnumber the Europeans and govern the country.

 

[Phoenall]

...Well, the Muslims, anyway... it's not like Christians joined-in, in any appreciable numbers. For Christians, getting out from under the heel of Muslim tyranny and dhimmitude was a blessing, and Jews of Nova Yisrael could be counted on to leave them alone.

You are full of shit as usual.

Nope.

Did Christians side with Muslim-Arab Palestinians in any appreciable numbers in the 1948 War?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, after all.

Was the elimination of Turkish-Palestinian Muslim-Arab tyranny and dhimmitude something that the Christians wanted to continue?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, either.

You're ubiquitous, Tinny, but not exactly formidable.

"Did Christians side with Muslim-Arab Palestinians in any appreciable numbers in the 1948 War?"

Of course they did, they fought alongside Muslim Palestinians in mixed militias in defense of Palestine, and there were also all-Christian militias such as the Defenders of Beit Jala.

Arab Christians in British Mandate Palestine: Communalism and Nationalism, 1917-1948

"Was the elimination of Turkish-Palestinian Muslim-Arab tyranny and dhimmitude something that the Christians wanted to continue?"

You should probably stay off the sauce when you post. Reread what you wrote, it makes no sense.

However, Christian Palestinians stood (and still stand) shoulder to shoulder with fellow Muslim Palestinians against Zionist Israel. Christians, were key members of the Arab Delegation sent to London to lobby for independence after WW 1.

".....your Delegation is recognised by Mr. Churchill as representing a large section of the Moslem and Christian inhabitants of Palestine, ...."


a - See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization/British policy in Palestine: "Churchill White Paper" - UK documentation Cmd. 1700/Non-UN document (excerpts) (1 July 1922)

And the same Winston Churchill stood up in the house of Commons and told the assembled M.P's that the arab muslims were illegally migrating to Palestine. I see you are now also acting as an advertiser for a commercial book seller, this is against the rules so will the mods please take the right action.

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, et al,

Well then, we have to consider the issue of longevity.

How about using the term "native" to a place or territory. This is in contrast from being born and resident elsewhere.

(COMMENT)

Native is another question.

View attachment 53247​

What we call today,in America as "Native Americans" are actually a composite of three different migrations and the outcome of several wars between tribes. Between 250 BC and 900 AD (known as the Woodland Period), archeological excavations show that intertribal warfare was intense with various tribes attempting to expand their domain. Some tribes completely disappeared; partly as an outcome of intertribal rivalry. Where I live, the Adena and Hopewell Indians were dated to the area as far back as the Paleo-indian Period (13,000 BC to 7,000 BC). But these two (native or indigenous) tribes were largely destroy and assimilated by the Shawnee of the Ohio Valley that did not escape westward. Now are the Shawnee considered Native American since they displaced the Shawnee? (Rhetorical) Of course they are Native Americans. Just as I am indigenous to the area.

It's like pornography and terrorism. I may not be able to legally define them, but I know them when I see them.

The Jews that established Israel in 1948, will soon be (if not already) indigenous to Israel. They've been there for over half a century; and soon there will no longer be any living survivor of the originally immigrants that came to the territory in the time before the establishment of the State. They will have been born there, and they will have grown-up there. The Arab Palestinians are exactly the opposite. Soon there will be no surviving migrants that lived in what is now Israel. There will not have been any remaining members that lived and grew-up in the territory. They will no longer be indigenous to what is now known as the State of Israel.

All peoples have some connection to the first humans that migrated out of Africa. We all came from someplace. And all the original migrants of 50K years ago have been replaced by someone else.

Most Respectfully,
R

No, we do not have to consider longevity at all. Unless a colonial enterprise is able to completely destroy the culture and depopulate or substantially out reproduce the people they are attempting to displace, the native people will; eventually regain their land. This is what happened in Algeria, South Africa, Rhodesia, Southwest Africa etc. In North America the colonial enterprises were able to eliminate the native population in most areas. In others, like Bolivia, the native people survived and now outnumber the Europeans and govern the country.

OFF TOPIC SPAMMING AND TROLLING AGAIN, what has the nations above to do with the remit of this board.

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, et al,

Does it really make a difference?

More like the Brits desired to establish a Trip-Wire and Listening Post and Buffer-State between the slowing resurgent Muslims and The West.

Not to mention helping return the Original People of The Book to their Spiritual Mothership, while thinning-out the Jewish population in Christian Europe.

Nahhhhh... just the Muslims... the Christians were not to be touched.

Well, the Muslims, anyway... it's not like Christians joined-in, in any appreciable numbers.

For Christians, getting out from under the heel of Muslim tyranny and dhimmitude was a blessing, and Jews of Nova Yisrael could be counted on to leave them alone.

You are full of shit as usual.

What a shame that neighboring Islamist nations refuse a right of return for their Arab / Islamist homies you incorrectly call Pal'istanians.

But as we know, Lebanon made the crucial mistake of allowing Arab / Islamist faux Pal'istanians across their border and that caused them nothing but a disaster.

The funny thing is, these nutcases really do believe the European invaders of Palestine are indigenous and the indigenous Christians and Muslims come from somewhere else. Even with documentary film evidence they are so brainwashed they continue with their nonsensical assertions. You couldn't make this stuff up.

(COMMENT)

You cannot even define what the term indigenous population means in terms of international law. Are you a habitual resident to the location where you now reside?

The designation of indigenous people is a red herring; and forming an argument around that kernel is a red herring. The Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (A/RES/61/295) is a 21st Century concept expressed in a non-binding resolution. It is neither temporally applicable to the 1948-thru-1973 Arab Israel Conflicts, nor is it applicable to the any aspect prior to 2007. (Note: The concept of Indigenous People is not reflected in the UDHR, CESCR or the CCPR.)

What has Entry into force of the Covenants ---

• The International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights entered into force on 3 January 1976, three months after the date of deposit with the Secretary-General of the thirty-fifth instrument of ratification or accession, as provided in article 27. As at 30 September 1995, the Covenant had been ratified or acceded to by 132 States.

• The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights entered into force on 23 March 1976, three months after the date of deposit with the Secretary-General of the thirty-fifth instrument of ratification or accession, as provided in article 49. As at 30 September 1995, the Covenant had been ratified or acceded to by 132 States.
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(QUESTIONS)

Think about your definition of an indigenous person.

• Where do you live?
• Are you indigenous to your local?
• When did you become indigenous?

Most Respectfully,
R

How about using the term "native" to a place or territory. This is in contrast from being born and resident elsewhere.

yep making the Jews native to Palestine and the arabs native to arabia. What a complete and utter moron you are

 

[Phoenall]

...Well, the Muslims, anyway... it's not like Christians joined-in, in any appreciable numbers. For Christians, getting out from under the heel of Muslim tyranny and dhimmitude was a blessing, and Jews of Nova Yisrael could be counted on to leave them alone.

You are full of shit as usual.

Nope.

Did Christians side with Muslim-Arab Palestinians in any appreciable numbers in the 1948 War?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, after all.

Was the elimination of Turkish-Palestinian Muslim-Arab tyranny and dhimmitude something that the Christians wanted to continue?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, either.

You're ubiquitous, Tinny, but not exactly formidable.

The Palestinians (Muslims & Christians) had no army. The war just happened around them. Israel ethnically cleansed the Palestinians. Their religion didn't matter.

At the time of the creation of the Israeli state in 1948, it is estimated that the Christians of Palestine numbered some 350,000. Almost 20 percent of the total population at the time, they constituted a vibrant and ancient community; their forbears had listened to St. Peter in Jerusalem as he preached at the first Pentecost. Yet Zionist doctrine held that Palestine was “a land without a people for a people without a land.” Of the 750,000 Palestinians that were forced from their homes in 1948, some 50,000 were Christians—7 percent of the total number of refugees and 35 percent of the total number of Christians living in Palestine at the time.

In the process of “Judaizing” Palestine, numerous convents, hospices, seminaries, and churches were either destroyed or cleared of their Christian owners and custodians. In one of the most spectacular attacks on a Christian target, on May 17, 1948, the Armenian Orthodox Patriarchate was shelled with about 100 mortar rounds—launched by Zionist forces from the already occupied monastery of the Benedictine Fathers on Mount Zion. The bombardment also damaged St. Jacob’s Convent, the Archangel’s Convent, and their appended churches, their two elementary and seminary schools, as well as their libraries, killing eight people and wounding 120.

Forgotten Christians​

Look at your source and tell the board with a straight face that they are unbiased

Are you implying that they made this up? Israel hates Christians the same as Muslims.

Yes I am as I cant see how Lebanon has anything to do with Israel, and why do you trot out this propaganda crap all the time.

 

[Phoenall]

You are full of shit as usual.

Nope.

Did Christians side with Muslim-Arab Palestinians in any appreciable numbers in the 1948 War?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, after all.

Was the elimination of Turkish-Palestinian Muslim-Arab tyranny and dhimmitude something that the Christians wanted to continue?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, either.

You're ubiquitous, Tinny, but not exactly formidable.

The Palestinians (Muslims & Christians) had no army. The war just happened around them. Israel ethnically cleansed the Palestinians. Their religion didn't matter.

At the time of the creation of the Israeli state in 1948, it is estimated that the Christians of Palestine numbered some 350,000. Almost 20 percent of the total population at the time, they constituted a vibrant and ancient community; their forbears had listened to St. Peter in Jerusalem as he preached at the first Pentecost. Yet Zionist doctrine held that Palestine was “a land without a people for a people without a land.” Of the 750,000 Palestinians that were forced from their homes in 1948, some 50,000 were Christians—7 percent of the total number of refugees and 35 percent of the total number of Christians living in Palestine at the time.

In the process of “Judaizing” Palestine, numerous convents, hospices, seminaries, and churches were either destroyed or cleared of their Christian owners and custodians. In one of the most spectacular attacks on a Christian target, on May 17, 1948, the Armenian Orthodox Patriarchate was shelled with about 100 mortar rounds—launched by Zionist forces from the already occupied monastery of the Benedictine Fathers on Mount Zion. The bombardment also damaged St. Jacob’s Convent, the Archangel’s Convent, and their appended churches, their two elementary and seminary schools, as well as their libraries, killing eight people and wounding 120.

Forgotten Christians​

Look at your source and tell the board with a straight face that they are unbiased

Are you implying that they made this up? Israel hates Christians the same as Muslims.

Yes I am as I cant see how Lebanon has anything to do with Israel, and why do you trot out this propaganda crap all the time.

 

[Rehmani]

I live in Europe and I see the invasion of muslim scum every day, I see them throwing rocks and petrol bombs. I see them using holy places as toilets and destroying the contents of churches. I see them demanding more and more or they will turn very violent.
So don't talk to me about peace as the only peace you scum understand is when you are beaten down and kept down. Expect Europe to rise up against islam and start pushing the muslims back towards their own countries, Nationalism is on the rise and the people are speaking through the ballot box now.

I got LIES that will never be the answer to the muslim problem, Jordan and Lebanon showed the only way to reach agreement with the Palestinians, mass killings in retaliation for terrorism and violence.

It is sad but true that the only way to establish peace from Palestinians has been for Arab countries to massacre them by the tens of housands. Hopefully the Palestinains will learns to leave Israel some better option.

MJB what if you through from these problem, palestinian people are facing from Jews. I am sure then you would think properly instead.

What about the problems faced by the Jews from these Palestinian terrorists then. Maybe if you thought properly you would see that the blame lies with all of islam

Phoney,shoony,joony,poony means confused, can't you find any other job to feed yourself.

I am retired and self supporting, unlike you muslims who are the biggest scroungers on this earth.
I bet you would not dare say that to my face either being a coward, unless you had 10 heavily armed other muslims to back you up.

I am your worst nightmare as I have researched islam and the koran and know what your plans are.

You are psycho who spreading hate but nothing and I will you terrorist as well to me any who killing innocent people is terrorist and Israel is number one terrorist and you are their propagandist agent.

 

[Rehmani]

You are full of shit as usual.

Nope.

Did Christians side with Muslim-Arab Palestinians in any appreciable numbers in the 1948 War?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, after all.

Was the elimination of Turkish-Palestinian Muslim-Arab tyranny and dhimmitude something that the Christians wanted to continue?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, either.

You're ubiquitous, Tinny, but not exactly formidable.

The Palestinians (Muslims & Christians) had no army. The war just happened around them. Israel ethnically cleansed the Palestinians. Their religion didn't matter.

At the time of the creation of the Israeli state in 1948, it is estimated that the Christians of Palestine numbered some 350,000. Almost 20 percent of the total population at the time, they constituted a vibrant and ancient community; their forbears had listened to St. Peter in Jerusalem as he preached at the first Pentecost. Yet Zionist doctrine held that Palestine was “a land without a people for a people without a land.” Of the 750,000 Palestinians that were forced from their homes in 1948, some 50,000 were Christians—7 percent of the total number of refugees and 35 percent of the total number of Christians living in Palestine at the time.

In the process of “Judaizing” Palestine, numerous convents, hospices, seminaries, and churches were either destroyed or cleared of their Christian owners and custodians. In one of the most spectacular attacks on a Christian target, on May 17, 1948, the Armenian Orthodox Patriarchate was shelled with about 100 mortar rounds—launched by Zionist forces from the already occupied monastery of the Benedictine Fathers on Mount Zion. The bombardment also damaged St. Jacob’s Convent, the Archangel’s Convent, and their appended churches, their two elementary and seminary schools, as well as their libraries, killing eight people and wounding 120.

Forgotten Christians​

Look at your source and tell the board with a straight face that they are unbiased

Are you implying that they made this up? Israel hates Christians the same as Muslims.

Yes I am as I cant see how Lebanon has anything to do with Israel, and why do you trot out this propaganda crap all the time.

Because Lebanon, Jordan and Palestine and Syria used to be one country but your master divide the region so they can place Israel there as well why don't you understand dumb, this simple thing that they are all one nation before Israel.

 

[Kondor3]

...You are psycho who spreading hate but nothing and I will you terrorist as well to me any who killing innocent people is terrorist and Israel is number one terrorist and you are their propagandist agent.

Want Israel to stop killing so-called Palestinians?

Then the Palestinians must stop giving them reasons to kill them.

Stop the rocket barrages, stop the suicide attacks, stop the random attacks upon Israelis, and Israel will stop retaliating.

You are being squeezed off of the few postage-stamp -sized fragments of land that you still control, and you are being walled-off, to prevent you from harming sane people.

Not even your half-crazy Muslim-Arab neighbor-countries want anything to do with you - most of you are too Mad Dog -like for them to feel safe, taking you in.

Even stupid people know better than to poke at a Lion with blunt sticks.

In truth, you need to leave, and not come back.

Get your families out of there, while there is still time, and shake off the insanity of Hamas and Fatah, and build new and safe and happier lives, someplace else.

Meanwhile, put the stick down... before you get hurt again... assuming that you're smart enough to understand why it is necessary to put down the stick.

 

[Kondor3]

...Because Lebanon, Jordan and Palestine and Syria used to be one country but your master divide the region so they can place Israel there as well why don't you understand dumb, this simple thing that they are all one nation before Israel.

What was the name of this so-called 'nation'?

 

[P F Tinmore]

You are full of shit as usual.

Nope.

Did Christians side with Muslim-Arab Palestinians in any appreciable numbers in the 1948 War?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, after all.

Was the elimination of Turkish-Palestinian Muslim-Arab tyranny and dhimmitude something that the Christians wanted to continue?

No?

Then, I guess I was not full of shit about that, either.

You're ubiquitous, Tinny, but not exactly formidable.

The Palestinians (Muslims & Christians) had no army. The war just happened around them. Israel ethnically cleansed the Palestinians. Their religion didn't matter.

At the time of the creation of the Israeli state in 1948, it is estimated that the Christians of Palestine numbered some 350,000. Almost 20 percent of the total population at the time, they constituted a vibrant and ancient community; their forbears had listened to St. Peter in Jerusalem as he preached at the first Pentecost. Yet Zionist doctrine held that Palestine was “a land without a people for a people without a land.” Of the 750,000 Palestinians that were forced from their homes in 1948, some 50,000 were Christians—7 percent of the total number of refugees and 35 percent of the total number of Christians living in Palestine at the time.

In the process of “Judaizing” Palestine, numerous convents, hospices, seminaries, and churches were either destroyed or cleared of their Christian owners and custodians. In one of the most spectacular attacks on a Christian target, on May 17, 1948, the Armenian Orthodox Patriarchate was shelled with about 100 mortar rounds—launched by Zionist forces from the already occupied monastery of the Benedictine Fathers on Mount Zion. The bombardment also damaged St. Jacob’s Convent, the Archangel’s Convent, and their appended churches, their two elementary and seminary schools, as well as their libraries, killing eight people and wounding 120.

Forgotten Christians​

Look at your source and tell the board with a straight face that they are unbiased

Are you implying that they made this up? Israel hates Christians the same as Muslims.

Yes I am as I cant see how Lebanon has anything to do with Israel, and why do you trot out this propaganda crap all the time.

The video was not about Lebanon.

You need to keep up.

 

[P F Tinmore]

montelatici, et al,

Well then, we have to consider the issue of longevity.

How about using the term "native" to a place or territory. This is in contrast from being born and resident elsewhere.

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Native is another question.

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What we call today,in America as "Native Americans" are actually a composite of three different migrations and the outcome of several wars between tribes. Between 250 BC and 900 AD (known as the Woodland Period), archeological excavations show that intertribal warfare was intense with various tribes attempting to expand their domain. Some tribes completely disappeared; partly as an outcome of intertribal rivalry. Where I live, the Adena and Hopewell Indians were dated to the area as far back as the Paleo-indian Period (13,000 BC to 7,000 BC). But these two (native or indigenous) tribes were largely destroy and assimilated by the Shawnee of the Ohio Valley that did not escape westward. Now are the Shawnee considered Native American since they displaced the Shawnee? (Rhetorical) Of course they are Native Americans. Just as I am indigenous to the area.

It's like pornography and terrorism. I may not be able to legally define them, but I know them when I see them.

The Jews that established Israel in 1948, will soon be (if not already) indigenous to Israel. They've been there for over half a century; and soon there will no longer be any living survivor of the originally immigrants that came to the territory in the time before the establishment of the State. They will have been born there, and they will have grown-up there. The Arab Palestinians are exactly the opposite. Soon there will be no surviving migrants that lived in what is now Israel. There will not have been any remaining members that lived and grew-up in the territory. They will no longer be indigenous to what is now known as the State of Israel.

All peoples have some connection to the first humans that migrated out of Africa. We all came from someplace. And all the original migrants of 50K years ago have been replaced by someone else.

Most Respectfully,
R

Palestine, and the other new states in the region, came into being without the evolutionary or revolutionary processes of most other countries. Palestine's international borders were defined by post war treaties. Palestinians became Palestinian and citizens of Palestine by international law in 1924 and domestic law in 1925.

Nothing can undo that.