Indictment Handed Down in J6 Investigation

[0311]

They won't. You can bet your house on it.

The LAST thing Trump and the MAGA media want is for the submissive cucks to read the indictment.

They can't read it anyway. Not even if they wanted to. It is literally physically impossible for them to read it. They have been so dumbed down by Trump and their propagandists, their intellectual bandwidth is limited to 280 characters.

"Duhhhhhh itzabout free speech derpderpderp!"

I know, but they can see for themselves what the charges are. Outside of the MAGA MAGGOT Bubble the real world knows what a traitor the Orange Faced Shit Stain is.

By refusing to read the indictment, they acknowledge they are happy in their ignorance. If ignorance is bliss, these assholes have reached Nirvana.

 

[0311]

Home run, Mr. Mudwhistle.

More like a swing and miss....strike 3 he is out.

 

[beautress]

Sorry, but your pathetic projection does not work.

Sorry, but your PITA indictment party does not work, and I predict this indictment may not even see the light of day it's so anti-Constitutional with re to Amendment 1.

 

[beautress]

More like a swing and miss....strike 3 he is out.

You must be jealous about him being smarter than you. Keep on writing fail sentences. They're most amusing.

 

[mudwhistle]

More like a swing and miss....strike 3 he is out.

 

[skews13]

You must be jealous about him being smarter than you. Keep on writing fail sentences. They're most amusing.

Is he smart enough to find his way to DC for the trial, or will he watch it on tv like the rest of us?

 

[beautress]

Is he smart enough to find his way to DC for the trial, or will he watch it on tv like the rest of us?

Sorry, I quit being a seer the day I was born.

 

[Lisa558]

IF AN ADVISER TELLS YOU TO ROB A BANK AND ONE TELLS YOU NOT TO, AND YOU CHOOSE THE ADVICE OF THE ONE WHO TOLD YOU TO ROB A BANK, YOU ARE GOING TO JAIL.

That’s not a parallel. Nobody advised Trump to do something illegal.

 

[Father O'Blivion]

Sorry, but your PITA indictment party does not work, and I predict this indictment may not even see the light of day it's so anti-Constitutional with re to Amendment 1.

Since you have obviously read it, how about we discuss it in detail.

What do you think about this paragraph?

"3. The Defendant had a right, like every American, to speak publicly about the
election and even to claim, falsely, that there had been outcome-determinative fraud during the election and that he had won. He was also entitled to formally challenge the results of the election through lawful and appropriate means, such as by seeking recounts or audits of the popular vote
in states or filing lawsuits challenging ballots and procedures. Indeed, in many cases, the Defendant did pursue these methods of contesting the election results. His efforts to change the outcome in any state through recounts, audits, or legal challenges were uniformly unsuccessful."

We can talk about the individual charges and that he is charged with more than just saying words OK?

 

[Slade3200]

Not based on this indictment

Pick a charge and explain why it isn’t legal. Here comes the dodge

 

[g5000]

Yesterday:

Notice not many trump supporters in here. Avoiding reality per usual.

They are waiting for instructions on what to bleev and what narrative to parrot.

TA-DAAAAAAA!

SQUAWK! Dissis bout free speech!

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SQUAWK! Free SQUAWK! Dissis bout SQUAWK! Free speech! Free speech!

 

[Lisa558]

Pick a charge and explain why it isn’t legal. Here comes the dodge

Nothing illegal about saying the election was stolen. Hillary said the same thing when she lost.

 

[Slade3200]

Nothing illegal about saying the election was stolen. Hillary said the same thing when she lost.

Correct, nothing illegal about saying that. He wasn’t charged for saying that

 

[Billiejeens]

I know, but they can see for themselves what the charges are. Outside of the MAGA MAGGOT Bubble the real world knows what a traitor the Orange Faced Shit Stain is.

By refusing to read the indictment, they acknowledge they are happy in their ignorance. If ignorance is bliss, these assholes have reached Nirvana.

Here Child -

Former President Donald Trump, who is running for president again in 2024 for the Republican nomination, has once again been indicted on Aug. 1 by Special Counsel Jack Smith, this time for challenging the results of the 2020 election, alleging Trump “spread lies that there had been outcome-determinative fraud in the election and that he had actually won. These claims were false, and the Defendant knew that they were false.”

According to the indictment, Trump’s electoral challenges, which are allowed under the First Amendment right to freedom of speech, the press and the right petition the government for redress of grievances, and also by the Electoral Count Act, which allows objections to be raised on the floor of Congress, right or wrong, were “uniformly unsuccessful.” In particular, the Electoral Count Act simply provides a procedure for waging challenges, requiring one member of the House and one member of the Senate for the state raising the challenge to hear the objection. That was done, with challenges ready to be heard for the states of Arizona, Pennsylvania and Georgia on Jan. 6, 2021.

Trump additionally had claimed prior to Jan. 6, 2021 that under the Twelfth Amendment to the Constitution, Vice President Pence had the power to unilaterally hear the alternate slates of electors that the Trump campaign was putting forward, and to otherwise send the election back to the states for recertification, a point of law that Pence disputed, saying it was up to the states to put forward their electors, which they already had. They disagreed about that, but Trump still persisted in exercising his First Amendment right to raise the challenge and attempt to persuade both Pence and Congress to consider the alternate slates of electors put forth, and if that failed, for Congress to discount the Electoral College votes from the states raising challenges under the objection process provided for under the Electoral Count Act.

 

[Billiejeens]

Trump additionally had claimed prior to Jan. 6, 2021 that under the Twelfth Amendment to the Constitution, Vice President Pence had the power to unilaterally hear the alternate slates of electors that the Trump campaign was putting forward, and to otherwise send the election back to the states for recertification, a point of law that Pence disputed, saying it was up to the states to put forward their electors, which they already had. They disagreed about that, but Trump still persisted in exercising his First Amendment right to raise the challenge and attempt to persuade both Pence and Congress to consider the alternate slates of electors put forth, and if that failed, for Congress to discount the Electoral College votes from the states raising challenges under the objection process provided for under the Electoral Count Act.

 

[Slade3200]

Here Child -

Former President Donald Trump, who is running for president again in 2024 for the Republican nomination, has once again been indicted on Aug. 1 by Special Counsel Jack Smith, this time for challenging the results of the 2020 election, alleging Trump “spread lies that there had been outcome-determinative fraud in the election and that he had actually won. These claims were false, and the Defendant knew that they were false.”

According to the indictment, Trump’s electoral challenges, which are allowed under the First Amendment right to freedom of speech, the press and the right petition the government for redress of grievances, and also by the Electoral Count Act, which allows objections to be raised on the floor of Congress, right or wrong, were “uniformly unsuccessful.” In particular, the Electoral Count Act simply provides a procedure for waging challenges, requiring one member of the House and one member of the Senate for the state raising the challenge to hear the objection. That was done, with challenges ready to be heard for the states of Arizona, Pennsylvania and Georgia on Jan. 6, 2021.

Trump additionally had claimed prior to Jan. 6, 2021 that under the Twelfth Amendment to the Constitution, Vice President Pence had the power to unilaterally hear the alternate slates of electors that the Trump campaign was putting forward, and to otherwise send the election back to the states for recertification, a point of law that Pence disputed, saying it was up to the states to put forward their electors, which they already had. They disagreed about that, but Trump still persisted in exercising his First Amendment right to raise the challenge and attempt to persuade both Pence and Congress to consider the alternate slates of electors put forth, and if that failed, for Congress to discount the Electoral College votes from the states raising challenges under the objection process provided for under the Electoral Count Act.

You know that is not an objective presentation of the case right? That’s a defense for trump. Is that really how you get your news? Let other people analyze and tell you what to think?

 

[Rawley]

When they are deceitful and lies aimed to lead to criminality, they are criminal.

Don't see the circularity of your argument? Want me to list Biden' 10,000 lies?

Rawley, you can have your own facts if you own up to the words you use to create them. And when they lead to crimes, you can be charged.

That's the point JESH, Smith is saing Trump's words themselves are criminal. Not that they lead to criminality. Saying the words themselves is criminal.

Let me give you an example

44. On December 4, after four Republican leaders of the Pennsylvania legislature
issued a public statement that the General Assembly lacked the authority to overturn the popular
vote and appoint its own slate of electors, and that doing so would violate the state Election Code
and Constitution, the Defendant re-tweeted a post labeling the legislators cowards.
45. On December 31 and January 3, the Defendant repeatedly raised with the Acting
Attorney General and Acting Deputy Attorney General the allegation that in Pennsylvania, there
had been 205,000 more votes than voters . Each time, the Justice Department officials informed
the Defendant that his claim was false.
46. On January 6, 2021, the Defendant publicly repeated his knowingly false claim that
there had been 205,000 more votes than voters in Pennsylvania.

Smith is saying that Trump's questioning of fraud in the PA vote alone is criminal Uttering those words is criminal. You don't see the problem with that?

 

[Billiejeens]

At the Save America Rally on Jan. 6, 2021, former President Trump explicitly urged everyone to “peacefully” protest the Electoral College certification of Joe Biden as President-elect: “We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.” Trump also argued, “All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the States to recertify, and we become president, and you are the happiest people.”

 

[Billiejeens]

That is all political speech protected by the First Amendment.

 

[Billiejeens]

You know that is not an objective presentation of the case right? That’s a defense for trump. Is that really how you get your news? Let other people analyze and tell you what to think?

Ok
That is hilarious