Zone1 Income inequality can be a a real thing.....

[Blaster]

We have a society of savers and spenders.

 

[initforme]

He doesn’t. He gets a job at K-Mart and rents a cheap apartment with a roommate.

Nope. Not feasible.

 

[Crepitus]

About your being relatively wealthy in your shithole. It's like being in the top 15% of the tallest midgets.

OOH!!

You're stupid!

Why did you just say so?

 

[Lisa558]

Nope. Not feasible.

Sure it is. You can get a 2-bedroom, 1-bath for $1000 an hour outside the city. Each pays $500.

Don’t like sharing a bathroom? Don’t like an hour commute? Then you’ve got incentive to get some career training and a better job.

 

[22lcidw]

It's going to lead to a collapse.

It may already be inevitable. Right now the top 1% control more wealth than the bottom 90% combined.

And they use that wealth to get more power and wealth, to the detriment of the rest of us.

And the gap is huge.

Myself as an example, I fall slightly above the top 15% mark as an individual. That about 3 times the median income.

The top 10% get about 3 times what I do.

The top 1% gets 3 or so times that.

And the 0.1% get thousands of times what they do.

They hold more wealth than the bottom 50% combined.

We have a federal government that is 25% of the GDP with taxes. Most going for social agendas. We have state, local, city, regional and every other way when totaled is perhaps another 25% for a total at least of 50%. It is of course different in areas or regions. Federal taxes are just one way of revenue. We have toll roads as an example that when paid off were to become free. They did not. So many ways of revenues.

 

[initforme]

Sure it is. You can get a 2-bedroom, 1-bath for $1000 an hour outside the city. Each pays $500.

Don’t like sharing a bathroom? Don’t like an hour commute? Then you’ve got incentive to get some career training and a better job.

True. Then one can try to stick it to one's employer. Wonderful feeling.

 

[Winston]

How would a total idiot make millions in income?

Take a hypothetical idiot, leaving politics out or using a generic political party as an example.

Total idiot is born to a middle class family. Barely passes in school, and even then only due to the low standards of public school these days. He goes to community college but flunks out.

How does he wind up making millions per year?

Opens a hospice? Treat autistic children?

 

[Lisa558]

True. Then one can try to stick it to one's employer. Wonderful feeling.

Why would one try to “stick it to one’s employer”? Not the employer’s fault the guy didn’t get any career training so he could earn decent money.

 

[initforme]

Why would one try to “stick it to one’s employer”? Not the employer’s fault the guy didn’t get any career training so he could earn decent money.

True. But it's great if the employer struggles mightily to find a worker.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Opens a hospice? Treat autistic children?

Took me a minute to get that.

Good one!

 

[beagle9]

It's going to lead to a collapse.

It may already be inevitable. Right now the top 1% control more wealth than the bottom 90% combined.

And they use that wealth to get more power and wealth, to the detriment of the rest of us.

And the gap is huge.

Myself as an example, I fall slightly above the top 15% mark as an individual. That about 3 times the median income.

The top 10% get about 3 times what I do.

The top 1% gets 3 or so times that.

And the 0.1% get thousands of times what they do.

They hold more wealth than the bottom 50% combined.

It's not about wealth being generated as based upon capitalism and/or the merit system being in place for the purpose of good..... I'm talking about the exploitation of a system that allowed individual's to aquire their wealth in such a system that was supposed to be based upon merit and hard work. The system itself is A-ok, but when bad infiltrates that system, and uses it to generate wealth for evil purposes, then that's when we end up with a broken system.

An evil generation using the same system good people use, and then doing so in order to aquire wealth by way of that system, otherwise when it doesn't consider that evil using it is a serious problem.

This is when idiots end up with wealth that they never deserved because their usage of the system became perverted by them, and this is because they knew it was blind to them when they exploited it.

 

[Winston]

It's not about wealth being generated as based upon capitalism and/or the merit system being in place for the purpose of good..... I'm talking about the exploitation of a system that allowed individual's to aquire their wealth in such a system that was supposed to be based upon merit and hard work. The system itself is A-ok, but when bad infiltrates that system, and uses it to generate wealth for evil purposes, then that's when we end up with a broken system.

An evil generation using the same system good people use, and then doing so in order to aquire wealth by way of that system, otherwise when it doesn't consider that evil using it is a serious problem.

This is when idiots end up with wealth that they never deserved because their usage of the system became perverted by them, and this is because they knew it was blind to them when they exploited it.

The rich man’s wealth is his strong city; The destruction of the poor is their poverty.
Proverbs 10:15

It really is that simple. This nation became the greatest nation on Earth because we built a system that created wealth. And sure, it really wasn't that hard. This continent was teeming with life, resources there for the taking. But now, we don't create wealth, we protect it.

 

[beagle9]

He doesn’t. He gets a job at K-Mart and rents a cheap apartment with a roommate.

I can't believe that you two can't see the wealth that resides in idiots hands these days, otherwise who yes have been educated, and yes did find a way into higher places by some sort of open door policy or leave no person behind regardless of their character type of idiocy that has gone on.

Look at our politician's today - these are not smart people.

We have these upper levels doing and saying thing's that one instantly can see is complete idiotic BS, and then you look at these tech giant's and their idiocy or their educated foolery, and you begin to scratch your head. Then you see these so called educated journalists making huge bucks while they spew complete idiocy on a daily basis. You have medical doctor's peddling drugs and lies, so on and on it goes.

These people have been able to sustain because character isn't being evaluated by the system before allowing usage of the system as a privilege not a right. The willingness to correct or fire the idiots has been lost by a brainwashed generation that has been groomed to think that accountability is no longer cool or necessary any longer.

I say they should have been stopped at the entrance doorway, and this after the evaluation of their character was taken and then understood.

 

[beagle9]

The rich man’s wealth is his strong city; The destruction of the poor is their poverty.
Proverbs 10:15

It really is that simple. This nation became the greatest nation on Earth because we built a system that created wealth. And sure, it really wasn't that hard. This continent was teeming with life, resources there for the taking. But now, we don't create wealth, we protect it.

Another post that misses the point being made yet again.. Get away from the numbers part, and begin to focus on the types of character's that are holding great amounts of wealth today. Can you all do that at the least ?

Should character not be considered as yet another important stepping stone on the way to that pot of gold or should anyone regardless of character be able to get that pot of gold ???

 

[fncceo]

Wealth has never been spread equally and never will be. We are humans after all.

Wealth can’t be spread evenly… but poverty sure can.

 

[beagle9]

The ones who piss me off are people who apparently do nothing but play with play money ... hedge fund managers and people like that.
Do they make anything?
Not that I can see.
But life ain't fair. It's just aggravating that people who don't make anything are ridiculously wealthy.

Yes, such abilities to generate wealth off of the backs of the worker's who are the generators of that wealth is another area that might need to be looked into, but I don't have a problem with good people being smart and playing the market's, but if bad people are hiding in the shadows playing the markets for the generation of wealth for evil corrupt purposes, then shouldn't the nation know that sort of thing in hopes to stop the money from going into evil people's hands ?? Maybe the person has to be caught when they invest the money into evil thing's afterwards, and just leave the good marketers alone to make what they want.

Summary:
If a good person plays the market's, and they move money around for great causes and investments, then those people are A-ok.

If a bad person plays the market, and they move that money around into evil thing's or they are found to be investing or using their wealth for evilness and corruption, then they should be identified, stripped of their wealth, banned from the market's, and forced to get a regular job for the rest of their day's in America.

 

[beagle9]

And wealth should NOT be spread equally. Otherwise, what’s the incentive to study hard, win admission to a competitive university, pick a marketable major and work hard through your college years, and the compete for a good job, put in all the time and work, and enjoy the fruits of your labors if you know your earnings will be “redistributed” to a high school grad who spent evenings at clubs and holds a simple job that requires little effort so both of you can be “equal”?

Agree, but isn't it about character really ? I've seen people work their way up from terrible situations in life, and they never got an education or equal footing with the best of the best, but they had determination and grit, and once they overcame the sky became the limit. Their are many rich that came from nothing, and they never had the education that other's may have gotten in life, but they were smart enough to claw their way out of the hole, and they self educated themselves along the way. They never accepted failure as an option, and they did well in their lives regardless of the handicap they may have had in the beginning.

 

[beagle9]

Opens a hospice? Treat autistic children?

Well that was but one failure of the system that is being run by the idiots I refer to in this Op.

 

[beagle9]

Wealth can’t be spread evenly… but poverty sure can.

Even in poverty there are still various levels of it. Nothing really equals out, but the idiots verses the non-idiots can surely get crazy in the numbers depending on whose running thing's or whose influencing thing's based upon their acquired wealth and power that they possess.

 

[MarathonMike]

Wealth has never been spread equally and never will be. We are humans after all.

Income equality is the pipe dream promised by Commies throughout the ages. It's been tried many of times and has always resulted in a poor, oppressed population and an ultra-rich elite.