Zone1 in your religion, does one kneel?

[Hafar1014]

Devotion does not an idol make. Worry about your own flock.

It does when I could see them praying to a statue of Mary while on their knees

 

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It does when I could see them praying to a statue of Mary while on their knees

You don’t know who they are praying to or what they are praying for. It’s just a convenient strawman to attack a rival religion that you feel threatened by.

Go worry about your own people.

 

[Hafar1014]

You don’t know who they are praying to or what they are praying for. It’s just a convenient strawman to attack a rival religion that you feel threatened by.

Go worry about your own people.

They are kneeling 2 feet in front of a statue of Mary who do you think they are praying to. I might feel threatened if I was a child a priest was molesting me and the church protecting him.

 

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They are kneeling 2 feet in front of a statue of Mary who do you think they are praying to. I might feel threatened if I was a child a priest was molesting me and the church protecting him.

No idea. How do you know they are not asking for Mary to pray for them.

If you want to learn about the scandal, I suggest you read the John Jay report.

If you are so concerned about the welfare of children, then maybe you should be worrying about why the world is calling what Israel is doing in Gaza a genocide.

 

[DGS49]

I'm RC. We kneel, although I have been to Catholic Churches where they have no kneelers? Bishop's option? I don't know.

At 75, I have reached the point where I think the sit-stand-kneel paradigm is pointless, and it remains only to make sure we are not sleeping in the pews.

 

[Hafar1014]

No idea. How do you know they are not asking for Mary to pray for them.

If you want to learn about the scandal, I suggest you read the John Jay report.

If you are so concerned about the welfare of children, then maybe you should be worrying about why the world is calling what Israel is doing in Gaza a genocide.

The world? The Catholic church covered up child abuse by priests for decades and protected them form prosecution.
They also tried to cover up pregnant nuns forced to give their babies up for adoption in states like NJ that make it impossible to search for a private adoption. The Catholic Church fought hard to stop laws that would would allow adoptees their original birth certificates. They lost. Half the priests are gay. This is one sick church

 

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The world? The Catholic church covered up child abuse by priests for decades and protected them form prosecution.
They also tried to cover up pregnant nuns forced to give their babies up for adoption in states like NJ that make it impossible to search for a private adoption. The Catholic Church fought hard to stop laws that would would allow adoptees their original birth certificates. They lost. Half the priests are gay. This is one sick church

Yes, some did and some played no part in it. It’s all been opened up and laid out in the John Jay report. Which I have read and you have not. All you are interested in is sensationalism.

Better to point your bony self righteous finger at others than at yourself, right. Remind me again which of these are worse than genocide?

 

[Hafar1014]

Yes, some did and some played no part in it. It’s all been opened up and laid out in the John Jay report. Which I have read and you have not. All you are interested in is sensationalism.

Better to point your bony self righteous finger at others than at yourself, right. Remind me again which of these are worse than genocide?

I never molested a child. The real scandal is the church defended them supported them protected them from prosecution and harassed their victims.

 

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I never molested a child. The real scandal is the church defended them supported them protected them from prosecution and harassed their victims.

Read the John Jay report and then we can discuss it. Until then keep ignoring the woman and children dying from Israel’s blockade. Their just doing God’s work, right?

 

[Hafar1014]

Read the John Jay report and then we can discuss it. Until then keep ignoring the woman and children dying from Israel’s blockade. Their just doing God’s work, right?

Pennsylvania Attorney General - Grand Jury Report

Executive Summary

The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA), led by Prof. Alexis Jay, is investigating the extent to which institutions in England and Wales failed to protect children from sexual abuse.

www.iicsa.org.uk

Catholic church still failing to deal with sexual abuse cases, says Vatican report

Vatican’s child protection commission delivers first report on scandal that has engulfed church for decades

www.theguardian.com

In its first report on a scandal that has embroiled the Catholic church for decades, the Pontifical Commission for the Protection of Minors said the church was still failing to ensure that clerical sexual abuse cases were dealt with adequately. It also criticised the Vatican office charged with processing complaints of being slow and secretive.


The commission was set up by Pope Francis in 2014 and its first report, published on Tuesday, focused on church protocol in 17 countries. Its publication comes a month after the pontiff was rebuked over the church’s handling of abuse by Belgium’s King Philippe and prime minister Alexander De Croo during a trip to the country.

https://www.archbalt.org/child-and-youth-protection/priests-and-brothers-accused-of-abuse/

The links are endless abuse worldwide absolutely disgusting

 

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Pennsylvania Attorney General - Grand Jury Report

Executive Summary

The Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA), led by Prof. Alexis Jay, is investigating the extent to which institutions in England and Wales failed to protect children from sexual abuse.

www.iicsa.org.uk

Catholic church still failing to deal with sexual abuse cases, says Vatican report

Vatican’s child protection commission delivers first report on scandal that has engulfed church for decades

www.theguardian.com

In its first report on a scandal that has embroiled the Catholic church for decades, the Pontifical Commission for the Protection of Minors said the church was still failing to ensure that clerical sexual abuse cases were dealt with adequately. It also criticised the Vatican office charged with processing complaints of being slow and secretive.


The commission was set up by Pope Francis in 2014 and its first report, published on Tuesday, focused on church protocol in 17 countries. Its publication comes a month after the pontiff was rebuked over the church’s handling of abuse by Belgium’s King Philippe and prime minister Alexander De Croo during a trip to the country.

https://www.archbalt.org/child-and-youth-protection/priests-and-brothers-accused-of-abuse/

The links are endless abuse worldwide absolutely disgusting

Great. When was all of that? Because women and children are dying today in Gaza because of the actions of Israel.

 

[Hafar1014]

Great. When was all of that? Because women and children are dying today in Gaza because of the actions of Israel.

Hamas steals their food uses them as shields and even kills them directly. Iran funds and supports them. They hide behind children then blame Israel. Hamas started the war not Israel but Israel will end it. Take your propaganda and shove it

 

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Hamas steals their food uses them as shields and even kills them directly. Iran funds and supports them. They hide behind children then blame Israel. Hamas started the war not Israel but Israel will end it. Take your propaganda and shove it

How many women and children have died as a result of Israel’s actions?

Do you understand what proportionate response means?

 

[Hafar1014]

How many women and children have died as a result of Israel’s actions?

Zero Hamas killed all of them

 

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Israel will end it

Even if it means genocide.

 

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Zero Hamas killed all of them

You are rationalizing it’s not their fault just as Adam and Eve did.

 

[Hafar1014]

How many women and children have died as a result of Israel’s actions?

Do you understand what proportionate response means?

Israel warns them before an attack so they can leave. Hamas will kill them if they try. The plan was build terror bases under hospitals and schools. Then blame Israel.

 

[Hafar1014]

You are rationalizing it’s not their fault just as Adam and Eve did.

If Hamas never started the war there would be no deaths. The blood is on their hands and they will be wiped out this time.

 

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Israel warns them before an attack so they can leave. Hamas will kill them if they try. The plan was build terror bases under hospitals and schools. Then blame Israel.

The blockade is starving them to death. Keep looking the other way.

 

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If Hamas never started the war there would be no deaths. The blood is on their hands and they will be wiped out this time.

Often times men rationalize their bad acts as righteous and good.