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There are a number of studies that show command of mathematics benefits people all of their lives in many ways. We should be encouraging children to do the most challenging math that they are capable of doing. Kids are all different. Some will do well with Calculus in high school, some will struggle but basically get it, and the others won't. Raising the bar is always a good thing, and lowering the bar is always a bad thing.This insanity has got to stop. The push to Calculus in the 12th grade is misguided????? Based on what? The hurt feelings of kids who don't get it??
Well technically the push it until high school and my high school's AP class has always been 12th grade forever and a day. Once in a blue moon someone may make it in 11th grade, but 11th grade is still in high school too. I really think this is a solution without a problem. It isn't like 5th graders are taking calculus.
That was the exact course progression that was used when I was a kid. It works well, there is no logical reason to take calculus away from high school students who have the ability and/or determination to take it. To call it "misguided" for calculus available in high school is absurd.In my city the path is they give 6 graders a test. If you score above a certain threshold, you do about half a semester of pre-algebra introduction at the end of that year, pre-algebra 7th grade, algebra 8th grade, geometry 9 grad, trig 10th grade, precal 11th and then APcalculus 12th. Now for most college bound students, they start pre-Algebra in 8th grade and finish up in pre-calculus which puts them at taking calculus their freshman year of college. You can still get all the academic bells and whistles and flourishes on that lesser route as well. Sadly, there are seniors still struggling with basic math and fractions. You are not going to do anything to improve their lot by holding other people down to their level.
Ok down the proverbial rabbit hole we go: California wants to discourage those proficient in math. Because: its racist.
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If this thing is implemented, I am guessing it will become a back door way of reintroducing the old socio-economic tracking system to schools. That was when they would place people from the same socio-economic class in the same classrooms together so there was a rich kid class, a working-class class and a poor kids class. It creates a separate and unequal system within the same buildings. The rich kid classes will already be prepared when they reach high school, and the kids from the other classes will struggle or be left behind while the schools will be able to pretend that all the classrooms were the same.That was the exact course progression that was used when I was a kid. It works well, there is no logical reason to take calculus away from high school students who have the ability and/or determination to take it. To call it "misguided" for calculus available in high school is absurd.In my city the path is they give 6 graders a test. If you score above a certain threshold, you do about half a semester of pre-algebra introduction at the end of that year, pre-algebra 7th grade, algebra 8th grade, geometry 9 grad, trig 10th grade, precal 11th and then APcalculus 12th. Now for most college bound students, they start pre-Algebra in 8th grade and finish up in pre-calculus which puts them at taking calculus their freshman year of college. You can still get all the academic bells and whistles and flourishes on that lesser route as well. Sadly, there are seniors still struggling with basic math and fractions. You are not going to do anything to improve their lot by holding other people down to their level.
Obviously you failed the dumb down math classes! Republican GWB was president until Jan. 20, 2009. That was only 12 years ago!!!
Dear Idiot!Who failed in History?
Obviously you failed the dumb down math classes! Republican GWB was president until Jan. 20, 2009. That was only 12 years ago!!!
There was more than one Bush that was President.
You are allowed to use your fingers and toes to count this off correctly.
That’s on the other coast in NYC. This equal outcomes is going to force some realities, that kids are already aware of, into the spotlight eventually.That's ok, in some areas they're cancelling gifted programs, as there are not enough minorities.
Let's intentionally stunt the growth of our brightest so others don't feew bad...
Dear Idiot!Who failed in History?
Obviously you failed the dumb down math classes! Republican GWB was president until Jan. 20, 2009. That was only 12 years ago!!!
There was more than one Bush that was President.
You are allowed to use your fingers and toes to count this off correctly.
"No Child Left Behind" was the policy of Republican President GWB, the second Bush, who was president until Jan. 20, 2009. GHWB was the first Bush President.
Another in the long line of liberal policies that make the condition they are claiming to try and help (and many of them believe that) worse.What will happen is parents of white kids will switch to private schools or supplement their children's math and science education. Minority students will graduate further behind, but colleges and business will still have follow hiring quotas which will lead to many industries lowering the standards for employment...this is how you end up with "anxiety disorders" being a qualifier for a job with the CIA.
Calculus is not difficult at all.... it simply takes a good teacher. Californian is slating its very own extinction. Some of the best classes can be found on YOU TUBE as a matter of fact.This insanity has got to stop. The push to Calculus in the 12th grade is misguided????? Based on what? The hurt feelings of kids who don't get it??
In fact, the framework concludes that calculus is overvalued, even for gifted students..........WTF?The stupidity in California and across America continues to grow. Where it ends is anyone's guess. But the dumbing down continues unabated.
California's Department of Education is working on a new framework for K-12 mathematics that discourages gifted students from enrolling in accelerated classes that study advanced concepts like calculus.The draft of the framework is hundreds of pages long and covers a wide range of topics. But its overriding concern is inequity. The department is worried that too many students are sorted into different math tracks based on their natural abilities, which leads some to take calculus by their senior year of high school while others don't make it past basic algebra. The department's solution is to prohibit any sorting until high school, keeping gifted kids in the same classrooms as their less mathematically inclined peers until at least grade nine."The inequity of mathematics tracking in California can be undone through a coordinated approach in grades 6–12," reads a January 2021 draft of the framework. "In summary, middle-school students are best served in heterogeneous classes."In fact, the framework concludes that calculus is overvalued, even for gifted students."The push to calculus in grade twelve is itself misguided," says the framework.As evidence for this claim, the framework cites the fact that many students who take calculus end up having to retake it in college anyway. Of course, de-prioritizing instruction in high school calculus would not really solve this problem—and in fact would likely make it worse—but the department does not seem overly worried. The framework's overriding perspective is that teaching the tough stuff is college's problem: The K-12 system should concern itself with making every kid fall in love with math.Broadly speaking, this entails making math as easy and un-math-like as possible. Math is really about language and culture and social justice, and no one is naturally better at it than anyone else, according to the framework....
In the Name of Equity, California Will Discourage Students Who Are Gifted at Math
California's Department of Education is working on a new framework for K-12 mathematics that discourages gifted students from enrolling in…reason.com
Is that X²?Gifted children don't belong in public school system anyway.
Why not? They can uplift the rock bangers.
That was the stated purpose of forced school busing. In one generation we went from the right to attend the closest school to busing kids all over the place.
The NAACP and the courts thought having little black children sitting in classes with little white children would aid the little black children's education.
It failed. All government schemes fail. They just keep imposing another one, and another one, etc.
Well. Blacks can't bitch that they weren't given a square shot!
