In politics, this is the real issue we are facing, and it is being ignored!

[Luckyone]

I understand you feel the video is impactful and well-articulated—fair enough. But asking others to only engage with it on your terms, while dismissing valid requests for a summary, doesn’t foster debate—it limits it.

Not everyone processes content the same way. Some prefer reading over watching videos. Some, like me, are more likely to consider an idea if it’s distilled into a few key points first. If your goal is truly open-minded discussion, why not meet people where they are?

Calling people ‘biased’ or ‘childish’ because they don’t engage exactly how you want comes across as more controlling than curious.

If you genuinely want to have a productive discussion, consider sharing the main thesis or a few highlights from the video. Then we can engage on the merits of the ideas rather than the format of delivery.

As I have stated repeatedly, I am not able to convey the problem as well as Stewart does and that means that my words could be misunderstood. In a debate, the issue (as stated clearly by Stewart) is what should be debated.

I understand that people process content in different ways. As such, you could have taken notes of the content given by Stewart and then researched it to where it is found in a written way. Bottom line, I am not the important thing here, it is the issue that is important and the issue cannot be stated any clearer than the way Stewart stated it.

If debating the issue is what you desire to do, then debate it with contrary information to what Stewart relayed. My job as a debater is to present the issue in the best way possible. It is not my job to do it in a way that is best for you so that you can understand it.

I have the ability to read, listen, and see the information in any way it is given. I(f you do not have the ability to do the same, it is not MY problem.

If you presented an OP in a written format and I stated to you that I could only understand it in a video format, would you find the way to present to me in the way I could understand? I don't think so!

Quit the bitching and either see the entire video or stop the posts where you find ways to not see it.

 

[Independent thinker]

In looking back at ALL our conversations over the past few months, 99% of them has been criticism of me (the messenger) and very little (if any) debating of the OP's.

You are not here to seek the truth, but here to feed your ego of debasing anyone that doesn't think or believe what you do.

I think I am going to put an end to our conversations. I have given you enough "benefit of the doubt" and now I am convinced that you are a "waste of time with nothing to offer".

You only have one message - trolling Trump and the Republicans. Show all the threads you have criticizing Biden, Harris, and other democrats.

 

[Robert W]

That is good news. Can't imagine anyone spending a half hour listening to the video, which as you stated, we won't be reading anything from you.

When were we supposed to laugh at what Stewart said? How many days did Stewart rehearse that?

 

[Robert W]

You only have one message - trolling Trump and the Republicans. Show all the threads you have criticizing Biden, Harris, and other democrats.

What is funny about his whining is he blocks me from his view after I took him apart at his wobbly knees.

 

[martybegan]

The 3 great rebellions of individual rights against evil monarchies were the US, France, and Russia.
How anyone bought the crazy idea there was anything fundamentally wrong with Russia, is beyond me?
Would you rather have the Tzar back on the throne?

If you believe in a republic, then you have to support the Bolshevik revolution.
Russia has never been the greedy capitalist committing colonial imperialism like the US turned out to be.
Again, we not only invade or take over innocent countries continually, but obviousy spent as much on offensive weapons, as the whole rest of the world combined.
For example, why should the US have aircraft carriers, in order to defend the North American continent?

The Czar over Stalin is an easy one.

And the French one killed off most of the people participating it during the Reign of Terror.

**** the Bolsheviks. and **** you.

 

[Robert W]

The Czar over Stalin is an easy one.

And the French one killed off most of the people participating it during the Reign of Terror.

**** the Bolsheviks. and **** you.

The minds of Democrats is where the mysterious swamp monster lives.

 

[Papageorgio]

As I have stated repeatedly, I am not able to convey the problem as well as Stewart does and that means that my words could be misunderstood. In a debate, the issue (as stated clearly by Stewart) is what should be debated.

I understand that people process content in different ways. As such, you could have taken notes of the content given by Stewart and then researched it to where it is found in a written way. Bottom line, I am not the important thing here, it is the issue that is important and the issue cannot be stated any clearer than the way Stewart stated it.

If debating the issue is what you desire to do, then debate it with contrary information to what Stewart relayed. My job as a debater is to present the issue in the best way possible. It is not my job to do it in a way that is best for you so that you can understand it.

I have the ability to read, listen, and see the information in any way it is given. I(f you do not have the ability to do the same, it is not MY problem.

If you presented an OP in a written format and I stated to you that I could only understand it in a video format, would you find the way to present to me in the way I could understand? I don't think so!

Quit the bitching and either see the entire video or stop the posts where you find ways to not see it.

Luckyone, I see what you’re doing—and it’s not truth-seeking, it’s ego-stroking. You set up a ‘debate’ where the only acceptable entry point is watching a 27-minute monologue from someone you deem perfectly unbiased, then declare anyone who asks for a summary as lazy, childish, or unpatriotic. That’s not discussion—that’s a test of submission.

You claim you’re just presenting ‘the issue’ in the best way possible, but then conveniently excuse yourself from doing what most truth-seekers do: engage others in a way they can understand, not just how you prefer.

Your refusal to provide a summary isn’t about clarity—it’s about control. And your parting shot (‘quit the bitching’) shows exactly how fragile your position really is when someone doesn’t nod along.

So no, I’m not going to sit through 27 minutes of Jon Stewart to pass your loyalty test. If you actually wanted a dialogue, you’d meet me halfway. But clearly, you’re more invested in lecturing than listening.

 

[Etymology gaslight]

Whether it is from Jon Stewart or not, the point of this thread is about the military being used against first amendment expression of anger over the government illegally not using judicial due process any more.
That is a very big deal because it makes the US a totalitarian dictatorship.

Just like China and Cuba.
North Korea
They're just like us in every way shape and form.

Did you go to the University of Chicago by any chance ?

 

[Luckyone]

Luckyone, I see what you’re doing—and it’s not truth-seeking, it’s ego-stroking. You set up a ‘debate’ where the only acceptable entry point is watching a 27-minute monologue from someone you deem perfectly unbiased, then declare anyone who asks for a summary as lazy, childish, or unpatriotic. That’s not discussion—that’s a test of submission.

You claim you’re just presenting ‘the issue’ in the best way possible, but then conveniently excuse yourself from doing what most truth-seekers do: engage others in a way they can understand, not just how you prefer.

Your refusal to provide a summary isn’t about clarity—it’s about control. And your parting shot (‘quit the bitching’) shows exactly how fragile your position really is when someone doesn’t nod along.

So no, I’m not going to sit through 27 minutes of Jon Stewart to pass your loyalty test. If you actually wanted a dialogue, you’d meet me halfway. But clearly, you’re more invested in lecturing than listening.

I am here to present issues that I believe are important and that affect the nation that I love. My job is not to convince anyone. I am not here for wins and to feed my ego. I know very well that convincing people to my view is not only close to impossible but also not something I seek to do because we all have to do it for ourselves, not for others.

As such, it is up to you to check it out if it is important to YOU. I present it and that is what my personal goal is to do, That is what my job is, given that we are not often presented with information that we don't seek ourselves. In simple words, it is up to you (not me) to see the video or not. I do not care one iota either way. You are not someone I know personally know and care about.

 

[Luckyone]

You only have one message - trolling Trump and the Republicans. Show all the threads you have criticizing Biden, Harris, and other democrats.

As I have stated many times before, I am not a political person. I key on Trump as a human being that throughout his life has harmed people and never did anything good for them, unless he personally benefitted from. Biden and all the others you mention are human, meaning they have faults (like we all do), but then again, they have also/ done some good for others. As such, I am not here to criticize humans, but expose the major threat to all of us that Trump presents, and not as a politician but as a wretched human he is.

 

[Stryder50]

The 2nd half of the video is Steward defending illegals by going after republicans supports for the 2nd amendment.

If that is the case, you've saved me wasting 28+ minutes.
Also have shown how "Luckyone" is a phony, a liar, and a jerk.

 

[Stryder50]

Sure, I have missed information in my life, especially when I was young. Nonetheless, my childhood made me question myself and because of that, I always looked for the truth and never believed anyone until it was proven the information was correct.

In addition, I have been an official (public) evaluator of the markets and as such, I have to do the research to find out what is true and what is not as my own personal beliefs are more likely to make me (and my clients or subscribers to my service) lose money than make it, and I have a long track record of being successful at doing that consistently (meaning my research has been correct more often than not).

As far as you comment about Stewart, no one is perfect and that means that if you look for something to support your argument you will find it.

Overall though, Jon Stewart has been very successful as a political commentator and comedian and that comes from a large amount of people liking and believing what he has to say. That suggests that he too, is more right than wrong

AI Overview

According to YouGov's data, Jon Stewart has a popularity rating of
49%. He is liked by 49% of people, disliked by 14%, and 22% are neutral. YouGov also states that 86% of people are aware of Jon Stewart, indicating a high level of fame.

When a person is liked 3 times more than disliked, he is likely more right than wrong. Trump (for example) is only liked by as many as dislike him and he is even more known than Stewart.

Take this information and parse it in your brain and see if you can understand the meaning of it.

Hitler had similar ranking~rating with the German people when he started as Chancellor of Germany.

Numbers have nothing to do with right or wrong, can often be the opposite.

49% popularity rating could mean 49% are clueless as much as Stewart is.
BTW, how many persons were in the survey, what are their demographics, etc.
If it was 110 Liberals and 49% of them like Stewart, that doesn't prove he is right about anything, especially politics or international relations.

If you had the background you claim, you'd know more on how to factor numbers, especially on "popularity".

You've wasted a lot of time and space dodging what could have taken 5-10 minutes to write a brief review/summary. The sort of thing one finds on the jacket cover of a book that let's you know if you want to read it or not.

 

[Stryder50]

I am here to present issues that I believe are important and that affect the nation that I love. My job is not to convince anyone. I am not here for wins and to feed my ego. I know very well that convincing people to my view is not only close to impossible but also not something I seek to do because we all have to do it for ourselves, not for others.

As such, it is up to you to check it out if it is important to YOU. I present it and that is what my personal goal is to do, That is what my job is, given that we are not often presented with information that we don't seek ourselves. In simple words, it is up to you (not me) to see the video or not. I do not care one iota either way. You are not someone I know personally know and care about.

From your profile page, the "About" section;

"I am a communicator that keys on knowledge and information. I am not biased toward anyone or any party but I am biased against ignorance and blindness-by-choice."

1) You aren't doing well on that "communicator" thyng. I fact you sound a lot like some of the sorry excuses of the politicians we've had.
"We won't know what's in that Bill until we pass it into Law." - guess which politician
"I am here to present issues that I believe are important and that affect the nation that I love. " - Luckyone

Except you don't "present issues". You play games trying to get people here to look at a video you won't say anything about, other than a vague pile of adjectives. Obviously you weren't a very good salesperson.

2) "I am not biased toward anyone or any party "
But you are on both counts. Repeatedly you have banged the drum for Leftist causes and ideology while attacking conservative/Republicans and the current POTUS - Trump.

3) " but I am biased against ignorance and blindness-by-choice."
Yet here you are dodging even a simple and short reply to the same question asked repeatedly, promoting "ignorance" and encouraging "blindness" "by-choice" of your own making. 150+ posts and more than a day later and you still play games.

Your honesty and integrity are absent.
Your self description is a fake resume.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Allah Halo for L.O.

Maybe radiation therapy will cure him of his lame posts.

He didnt reapond....odd..

 

[Papageorgio]

I am here to present issues that I believe are important and that affect the nation that I love. My job is not to convince anyone. I am not here for wins and to feed my ego. I know very well that convincing people to my view is not only close to impossible but also not something I seek to do because we all have to do it for ourselves, not for others.

As such, it is up to you to check it out if it is important to YOU. I present it and that is what my personal goal is to do, That is what my job is, given that we are not often presented with information that we don't seek ourselves. In simple words, it is up to you (not me) to see the video or not. I do not care one iota either way. You are not someone I know personally know and care about.

So now you ‘don’t care one iota’ if I watch it? That’s rich—considering just a few posts ago I was apparently a traitor for not sitting through it. Your memory’s either short, or your messaging is wildly inconsistent.

Let’s be honest: this wasn’t about presenting information—it was about control. You framed the video as sacred truth, refused to summarize it, insulted anyone who questioned your method, and now that you’re called out, you’re pretending none of that happened.

You don’t want dialogue. You want submission masked as enlightenment. I’m not playing that game.

You can keep pretending this was about ‘just sharing information,’ but I’ll go ahead and treat it like what it actually was—a self-important rant wrapped in moral superiority.

You’ve wasted enough of my time. Moving on.

 

[Stryder50]

Like I said before and I will say it again. If you believe what you believe and do not question it when someone like myself (unbiased and a seeker of truth) tells you that something important was stated in that video (or a research paper, or a statistic, or a piece of data, or what someone believes is a true statement) and you do not bother to take the time to see it (read it, research it, understand it, evaluate it), it means you are not a seeker of truth but simply a believer that what you think and believe is what is.

Such people are biased and never learn. On top of that, they are not patriots.

I gave 4 years of my life being a policeman in the Air Force (not what I wanted to be (wanted to be a pilot), but did it for the sake of my country as that is what they required of me) and find someone that is not willing to dedicate 27 minutes to researching something that is severely affecting our country, means that your beliefs are more important than the welfare of our country.

To me, that is being a traitor. Simple as that.

No, it means you have no credibility for any of us to take your word on anything.
It also means we have many demands on our time and attention and your approach sounds too much like a flim-flam huckster trying to pull a con.

 

[Stryder50]

The correct saying is: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his labor.”

It's know as Real World CYA.
History is filled with examples of "friend" nations backstabbing their partner nation(s).

You can bet we have channels inside of Israel doing the same to them.

 

[fncceo]

it was clearly stated that we are spending more money on external problems

Making certain that criminals and those who flaunt our immigration laws are not allowed to drain our national resources is very much an INTERNAL problem.

Problems don’t get any more internal.

 

[Ringo]

History is filled with examples of "friend" nations backstabbing their partner nation(s).
You can bet we have channels inside of Israel doing the same to them.

I hope that when you discover that your wife is cheating on you, you will be as wise and understanding.

 

[Luckyone]

So now you ‘don’t care one iota’ if I watch it? That’s rich—considering just a few posts ago I was apparently a traitor for not sitting through it. Your memory’s either short, or your messaging is wildly inconsistent.

Let’s be honest: this wasn’t about presenting information—it was about control. You framed the video as sacred truth, refused to summarize it, insulted anyone who questioned your method, and now that you’re called out, you’re pretending none of that happened.

You don’t want dialogue. You want submission masked as enlightenment. I’m not playing that game.

You can keep pretending this was about ‘just sharing information,’ but I’ll go ahead and treat it like what it actually was—a self-important rant wrapped in moral superiority.

You’ve wasted enough of my time. Moving o

So now you ‘don’t care one iota’ if I watch it? That’s rich—considering just a few posts ago I was apparently a traitor for not sitting through it. Your memory’s either short, or your messaging is wildly inconsistent.

I truly do not care what you do. As far as calling you a traitor for not watching it, I am entitled to my opinion (just like you are entitled to yours), but it has nothing to do with my caring for you (or not) but about caring for the welfare of my nation.

Let’s be honest: this wasn’t about presenting information—it was about control.

Control? that is hilarious. I have no control over anyone, nor do I want control. By the same token, it is MY OP and I can choose how I present it, as long as I follow the guidelines of the message board.

You framed the video as sacred truth, refused to summarize it, insulted anyone who questioned your method, and now that you’re called out, you’re pretending none of that happened.

I never used the word "sacred". I said that Stewart explains in a great way that enters the brain of people who care about what happens to our country. I always look to debate an issue but so far, no one has debated the issue that Stewart shows. I wonder why? Could it be because there is no possibility of actually debating it? That it shows what actually is happening, instead of all the lies given to us?

You don’t want dialogue. You want submission masked as enlightenment. I’m not playing that game.

Pure an utter bullshit on your part.

You can keep pretending this was about ‘just sharing information,’ but I’ll go ahead and treat it like what it actually was—a self-important rant wrapped in moral superiority.

Whatever you say. You are the expert................but a hugely misinformed one.

You’ve wasted enough of my time. Moving on.

Fantastic.

The reality is that if you had actually spent 27 MINUTES and watched the video, instead of spending hours responding to my posts, we actually could have had a debate about the issue. You preferred though, to debase me. I wonder why?

You are the one that tries to manipulate and be in control. You are a total bullshit artist.