In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes in retaliation to President Obrador's "Hugs not Bullets" campaign

[basquebromance]

The Jalisco cartel responded to Mexico’s “hugs, not bullets” by kidnapping members of an elite police force, torturing them for addresses of fellow officers, & is now hunting & killing them in their homes, on their days off, in front of their families.

In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

The notoriously violent Jalisco cartel has responded to Mexico's “hugs, not bullets” policy with a policy of their own: the cartel kidnapped several members of an elite police force in the state of Guanajuato, tortured them to obtain names and addresses of fellow officers, and are now hunting down a

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[Moonglow]

Legalize drugs and kill the cartel.

 

[MarathonMike]

I've been posting about the Cartels for a long time. They run Mexico and they run the border. And Biden takes the 3 Monkeys approach. That's why we are screwed unless the Democrats are kicked out of power.

 

[Moonglow]

I've been posting about the Cartels for a long time. They run Mexico and they run the border. And Biden takes the 3 Monkeys approach. That's why we are screwed unless the Democrats are kicked out of power.

The cartels exist because of the US as do other narco states in Mexico that fund terrorism and political agendas...The Repubs started the drug war in 1970 and have yet to make a dent in the problem. FDR had the right answer.

 

[skews13]

The Jalisco cartel responded to Mexico’s “hugs, not bullets” by kidnapping members of an elite police force, torturing them for addresses of fellow officers, & is now hunting & killing them in their homes, on their days off, in front of their families.

In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

The notoriously violent Jalisco cartel has responded to Mexico's “hugs, not bullets” policy with a policy of their own: the cartel kidnapped several members of an elite police force in the state of Guanajuato, tortured them to obtain names and addresses of fellow officers, and are now hunting down a

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The Mexican government is complicit in the crimes. There is a reason the military only makes shows of capturing cartel leaders. To remove ones that have overstayed their welcome, and make way for the new kid on the block. There is no elite police force that can kill the cartels. It will take a military coup of the civilian government, with a ruthless operation of systematic executions, and takeover of the entire country, confiscation of property, assets, and restriction of all travel. Then a long term military occupation, with complete control of the civilian population, for at least a generation.

 

[skews13]

I've been posting about the Cartels for a long time. They run Mexico and they run the border. And Biden takes the 3 Monkeys approach. That's why we are screwed unless the Democrats are kicked out of power.

Hows that Nixon, Reagan, Republican war on drugs working for you?

Here's a hint. It's not. 50 years of Republican failure. That's why there are cartels, and why there are problems at the southern border. You fucking dipshits wanted your anti socialist governments in Central America wars, and coups. Well, here are the fruits of the wars and coups.

You fuckwit Republicans are 100% responsible for the cartels and the border problems. Embrace your failure loser.

If it's one thing we don't need. Is advice from a Republican on anything that has to do with drug cartels are border problems. You morons have caused enough problems. Now sit down and shut the fuck up.

 

[MarathonMike]

Hows that Nixon, Reagan, Republican war on drugs working for you?

Here's a hint. It's not. 50 years of Republican failure. That's why there are cartels, and why there are problems at the southern border. You fucking dipshits wanted your anti socialist governments in Central America wars, and coups. Well, here are the fruits of the wars and coups.

You fuckwit Republicans are 100% responsible for the cartels and the border problems. Embrace your failure loser.

If it's one thing we don't need. Is advice from a Republican on anything that has to do with drug cartels are border problems. You morons have caused enough problems. Now sit down and shut the fuck up.

All your swearing just makes you look like the idiot you are. You don't know squat about Mexico and the role the Cartels, Obrador, Biden and Jinping are playing to destroy this country. Have a nice day angry boi!

 

[Riff Raff]

The Jalisco cartel responded to Mexico’s “hugs, not bullets” by kidnapping members of an elite police force, torturing them for addresses of fellow officers, & is now hunting & killing them in their homes, on their days off, in front of their families.

In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

The notoriously violent Jalisco cartel has responded to Mexico's “hugs, not bullets” policy with a policy of their own: the cartel kidnapped several members of an elite police force in the state of Guanajuato, tortured them to obtain names and addresses of fellow officers, and are now hunting down a

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Cartel boss José Biden: 'We need more people like that!'

 

[MarathonMike]

The cartels exist because of the US as do other narco states in Mexico that fund terrorism and political agendas...The Repubs started the drug war in 1970 and have yet to make a dent in the problem. FDR had the right answer.

Another stroll down memory lane from a Leftist. It doesn't mean a hill of beans how they came to be, they are a major problem NOW. And Biden has been told !hands off! by his Chinese Masters.

 

[SavannahMann]

All your swearing just makes you look like the idiot you are. You don't know squat about Mexico and the role the Cartels, Obrador, Biden and Jinping are playing to destroy this country. Have a nice day angry boi!

Oh bullshit. The Drugs were here during Republican times, including Trump, and they’ll be here tomorrow.

Tons of it comes across the border through so many pipelines that it is not even funny.

And he’s right. How did we end the violence during the Prohibition era? We legalized the Alcohol again. We legalized booze. Then all of a sudden, there was no profit in smuggling, no territories to defend, or take. There was nothing for the Bootleggers to do. They couldn’t ship the booze cheaper than the lawful companies. So the Mob’s became irrelevant.

So from this historical example, we can see that just getting tough on the people smuggling doesn’t work. We know from fifty years of experience that spending billions to try and stop it doesn’t do diddly squat. Best will in the world, and all the luck to the Cops, they can’t stop more than what? Five percent of the drugs? Perhaps? If they are lucky?

So what happens? They hold a press conference, and while they are crowing about the major bust, ten times the amount on the table before them is passing through town.

Built the wall, the Cartels have and use planes. Have cops searching every car and truck along the border, the Cartels will just drive the shit through the desert in souped up Four Wheel Drives.

They use boats, ships, planes, and mules. Like the smart investor, they diversify so any hit in one sector, doesn’t do diddly squat to the overall picture.

You capture a boat full of drugs. Ten boats pass by all loaded down too. You can’t stop and search everything. And it is coming in through legal containers at the Ports. It’s coming in by planes, some flying low and some flying normal routes, smuggling it in with luggage or cargo. Tonight, ten thousand flights will come north. How many will have drugs? Two? Ten?

You wait for them at the airport, and they drop the drugs on parachutes into lakes and such. Boats come and scoop it up and off they go to sell.

You could mobilize the entire US Military, and still stop less than half the drugs. And while they are doing that nothing else could be done.

Drugs are sold on most street corners in the poorest neighborhoods. They’re sold in houses in the rich neighborhoods too. They’re sold everywhere.

We spend billions on interdiction, and we haven’t made a dent. We jail people for sentences that are insanely long, for smuggling, or dealing, and it doesn’t slow anything. We seize bank accounts, and cash, and still they deal, and still the Cartels get more powerful.

We’ve tried it that way since I was born. And it is no closer today than it ever was.

Legalize it. Suddenly the product is out from behind the buildings to on the shelves. Suddenly we find that the prices drop, and the quality increases, because now there is market share to be gotten. Criminal empires lose their cash cows, and the Cartel Bosses can’t afford hundreds of soldiers to fight for them. No money coming in.

Getting tough on the Mobs didn’t end the violence of the Prohibition era. It was ended when the product they had been bringing to a demanding public, was no longer contraband.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The Jalisco cartel responded to Mexico’s “hugs, not bullets” by kidnapping members of an elite police force, torturing them for addresses of fellow officers, & is now hunting & killing them in their homes, on their days off, in front of their families.

In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

The notoriously violent Jalisco cartel has responded to Mexico's “hugs, not bullets” policy with a policy of their own: the cartel kidnapped several members of an elite police force in the state of Guanajuato, tortured them to obtain names and addresses of fellow officers, and are now hunting down a

apnews.com

Like the MAGAs they want to defend the federal police.

 

[marvin martian]

The Jalisco cartel responded to Mexico’s “hugs, not bullets” by kidnapping members of an elite police force, torturing them for addresses of fellow officers, & is now hunting & killing them in their homes, on their days off, in front of their families.

In Mexico, cartels are hunting down police at their homes

The notoriously violent Jalisco cartel has responded to Mexico's “hugs, not bullets” policy with a policy of their own: the cartel kidnapped several members of an elite police force in the state of Guanajuato, tortured them to obtain names and addresses of fellow officers, and are now hunting down a

apnews.com

These are the people taking advantage of Joe Biden's open border. Biden is essentially in the human trafficking business with the Mexican cartels.

 

[MarathonMike]

Oh bullshit. The Drugs were here during Republican times, including Trump, and they’ll be here tomorrow.

Tons of it comes across the border through so many pipelines that it is not even funny.

And he’s right. How did we end the violence during the Prohibition era? We legalized the Alcohol again. We legalized booze. Then all of a sudden, there was no profit in smuggling, no territories to defend, or take. There was nothing for the Bootleggers to do. They couldn’t ship the booze cheaper than the lawful companies. So the Mob’s became irrelevant.

So from this historical example, we can see that just getting tough on the people smuggling doesn’t work. We know from fifty years of experience that spending billions to try and stop it doesn’t do diddly squat. Best will in the world, and all the luck to the Cops, they can’t stop more than what? Five percent of the drugs? Perhaps? If they are lucky?

So what happens? They hold a press conference, and while they are crowing about the major bust, ten times the amount on the table before them is passing through town.

Built the wall, the Cartels have and use planes. Have cops searching every car and truck along the border, the Cartels will just drive the shit through the desert in souped up Four Wheel Drives.

They use boats, ships, planes, and mules. Like the smart investor, they diversify so any hit in one sector, doesn’t do diddly squat to the overall picture.

You capture a boat full of drugs. Ten boats pass by all loaded down too. You can’t stop and search everything. And it is coming in through legal containers at the Ports. It’s coming in by planes, some flying low and some flying normal routes, smuggling it in with luggage or cargo. Tonight, ten thousand flights will come north. How many will have drugs? Two? Ten?

You wait for them at the airport, and they drop the drugs on parachutes into lakes and such. Boats come and scoop it up and off they go to sell.

You could mobilize the entire US Military, and still stop less than half the drugs. And while they are doing that nothing else could be done.

Drugs are sold on most street corners in the poorest neighborhoods. They’re sold in houses in the rich neighborhoods too. They’re sold everywhere.

We spend billions on interdiction, and we haven’t made a dent. We jail people for sentences that are insanely long, for smuggling, or dealing, and it doesn’t slow anything. We seize bank accounts, and cash, and still they deal, and still the Cartels get more powerful.

We’ve tried it that way since I was born. And it is no closer today than it ever was.

Legalize it. Suddenly the product is out from behind the buildings to on the shelves. Suddenly we find that the prices drop, and the quality increases, because now there is market share to be gotten. Criminal empires lose their cash cows, and the Cartel Bosses can’t afford hundreds of soldiers to fight for them. No money coming in.

Getting tough on the Mobs didn’t end the violence of the Prohibition era. It was ended when the product they had been bringing to a demanding public, was no longer contraband.

So just go ahead and let the drug cartels run the border, keep pumping millions of Fentanyl pills and Opioids, killing 100,000 Americans a year. Don't say a word to China just let them keep shipping the raw chemicals to the cartel labs. Just keep letting Obrador walk all over us, don't do anything about Mexico's wide open borders and wide open airports. Is that your plan? Well you must be happy because that sure is BIden's plan. Liberals like you don't get it until someone from your own family drops over dead from a drug overdose.

 

[SavannahMann]

So just go ahead and let the drug cartels run the border, keep pumping millions of Fentanyl pills and Opioids, killing 100,000 Americans a year. Don't say a word to China just let them keep shipping the raw chemicals to the cartel labs. Just keep letting Obrador walk all over us, don't do anything about Mexico's wide open borders and wide open airports. Is that your plan? Well you must be happy because that sure is BIden's plan. Liberals like you don't get it until someone from your own family drops over dead from a drug overdose.

When are you going to figure out it isn’t working?

People were cooking Crystal Meth in kitchens. So to stop them the Feds restricted Sudafed. How much you could buy. Purchases were tracked. Regular people were arrested for buying too much.

The result was dramatic. Crystal Meth production increased 1,000%. It is literally more available now than it was before the Sudafed was restricted.

As for the cartels running rampant. If you legalized the crap today. The Cartels would cease to exist in a week. They would have no income. They would have no source of money. No reason to exist.

Didn’t you learn about Prohibition in school? It wasn’t cops who ended the violence. It wasn’t the Treasury agents. It wasn’t courts or new laws. It was the fact that there was no more profit in the smuggling and control of booze.

It happens whenever there is a profit to be had. Today. Someone is going to run Cigarettes into New York. They are going to sell these smokes on the Black Market. They can sell them cheaper than the stores can with New York Taxes. And they can still turn a profit making the risk of arrest worth it.

Control doesn’t even end it. The Black Market existed in the Soviet Union.

Second economy of the Soviet Union - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

So even if we had Soviet levels of control of our population we wouldn’t end the smuggling of anything.

Now to the overdoses. Let’s be real. You aren’t going to stop the pills and such. We haven’t ever made a dent. And we keep coming up with new and expensive not to mention invasive ways to combat the problem.

But would we reduce the deaths if we allowed consistency into the equation?

You get the pills. But you don’t know how strong they really are. Imagine you are going to have a drink. But until after you swallow it you don’t know if it is the equivalent of 3.2 beer or Everclear at 190 proof. Hard to judge the effect it will have on you isn’t it? One drink could do nothing. Or it could push you to the lethal limit in a second.

That is the situation now.

But if it is the deaths. And let’s be honest. It isn’t. Why are the Liberals so bad for banning unhealthy foods in schools? Remember the hysteria over Michelle Obama’s school lunch nonsense?

But if you take anything else. Any other product. And you are solidly on the keep the Feds out of my business side. Guns as one example. You argue. Correctly in my opinion. You argue that the criminals won’t obey the law. I argue that.

Just apply those same arguments to drugs. You will see the logic.

 

[The Duke]

The cartels exist because of the US as do other narco states in Mexico that fund terrorism and political agendas...The Repubs started the drug war in 1970 and have yet to make a dent in the problem. FDR had the right answer.

They started that shit to give our government more power, brah.

Cartels are fucked with all this Fentanyl shit going on. I won't do ary a hard drug ever again unless I know it can't have been tainted with that Chinese shit. There's something we didn't have to worry about back in my day. The plant-based stuff was pure, and good. There were also Quaaludes. Nobody seems to like Fentanyl as much as everybody liked Quaaludes.
Cartels can't make no money with all this Fentanyl stuff happening, I don't see how they can. No mas drogas. Cartels can't gin up a customer base if they all keep dying from somebody using that Chinese stuff. True Story.