In June of 2025, solar became the largest producer of electricity in Europe

[Old Rocks]

Solar has surpassed nuclear as the largest contributor of electrical power in Europe. The combination of much less costly battery storage and ease of construction, solar has surpassed even nuclear. Coal is almost out of the picture.

 

[toobfreak]

In June of 2025, solar became the largest producer of electricity in Europe​

Then whoa be unto Europe.

Coal is almost out of the picture.

Except in China where they are building a new coal power planet almost daily.

 

[JGalt]

Solar has surpassed nuclear as the largest contributor of electrical power in Europe. The combination of much less costly battery storage and ease of construction, solar has surpassed even nuclear. Coal is almost out of the picture.

That's pretty damned silly if you consider the fact that the entire continent of Europe only consumed 2,419 terrawatt hours in 2024, while the United States used almost twice that in 2024, or 4,145 terrawatt hours.

The average electrical rate in the US is also 17.45 cents per kilowatt hour, while the average electrical rate in Europe is 28.72 cents per kilowatt hour.

Also keep in mind that the entire population of Europe is 744,385,375 as of 2025, which is over twice the US population. Europe also covers 4 million square miles while the US has a land mass of 3.81 million square miles.

In other words, Europe only gets to use half the electricity we do, but are paying twice as much. Now you see why Europeans are so backwards, cold, hungry, poor, and constantly squabbling with each other. I don't want to be like Europe.

 

[1srelluc]

Weren't they bitching about a "heat wave".....Sun must have been out a lot in June.

See what the fall/winter stats look like and get back to us.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Solar has surpassed nuclear as the largest contributor of electrical power in Europe. The combination of much less costly battery storage and ease of construction, solar has surpassed even nuclear. Coal is almost out of the picture.

Netherlands RATIONS electricity as it struggles with shift from gas

More than 11,900 businesses are stuck in a queue for access to the network, alongside public buildings including hospitals, schools and fire stations.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Old Rocks]

Then whoa be unto Europe.


Except in China where they are building a new coal power planet almost daily.

China is also building more wind and solar than anybody else. They are building coal plants as well because with over a billion people they need all the power they can get.

 

[Old Rocks]

That's pretty damned silly if you consider the fact that the entire continent of Europe only consumed 2,419 terrawatt hours in 2024, while the United States used almost twice that in 2024, or 4,145 terrawatt hours.

The average electrical rate in the US is also 17.45 cents per kilowatt hour, while the average electrical rate in Europe is 28.72 cents per kilowatt hour.

Also keep in mind that the entire population of Europe is 744,385,375 as of 2025, which is over twice the US population. Europe also covers 4 million square miles while the US has a land mass of 3.81 million square miles.

In other words, Europe only gets to use half the electricity we do, but are paying twice as much. Now you see why Europeans are so backwards, cold, hungry, poor, and constantly squabbling with each other. I don't want to be like Europe.

LOL I guess you are still living in the 1950's. Seven of the ten nations with the highest quality of life and standard of living are in Europe. And the US is not in the other three.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings/quality-of-life

 

[Old Rocks]

Netherlands RATIONS electricity as it struggles with shift from gas

More than 11,900 businesses are stuck in a queue for access to the network, alongside public buildings including hospitals, schools and fire stations.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Well when Russia invaded Ukraine, Europe had a choice, surrender to Russia, or face shortages of energy. They are building out renewables as fast as possible, because then they don't have to depend on anyone for their energy. Netherlands has only a small amount of land, so they have to depend on others for their electricity. As the amount of solar and wind ramp up in the rest of Europe, Netherlands will be able to get the electricity it needs.

 

[Old Rocks]

Weren't they bitching about a "heat wave".....Sun must have been out a lot in June.

See what the fall/winter stats look like and get back to us.

You know what happens in winter in Europe? The wind blows. Especially over the ocean. And Spain is part of Europe, as well as Italy and Greece. The Saudis are building out major solar, and talking of a big DC line to Europe, like we have from Washington to San
Diego.

 

[frigidweirdo]

China is also building more wind and solar than anybody else. They are building coal plants as well because with over a billion people they need all the power they can get.

China also has a lot of hydro, especially in the west of the country. Some regions are almost entirely run on hydro, like Sichuan. In Xi'an you'll see a coal power station whichever way you leave the city. In Chengdu, you won't see one. Doesn't mean the pollution is any better though.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Well when Russia invaded Ukraine, Europe had a choice, surrender to Russia, or face shortages of energy. They are building out renewables as fast as possible, because then they don't have to depend on anyone for their energy. Netherlands has only a small amount of land, so they have to depend on others for their electricity. As the amount of solar and wind ramp up in the rest of Europe, Netherlands will be able to get the electricity it needs.

I know you're a moron, but the Netherlands has their own huge gas field that they shut down in order to use wind and solar. Because they're stupid, like you.

It was in my link.

After shutting down production at the massive Groningen gas field last year, the Dutch government has pushed a fast transition to electric heating, solar power and battery storage.

DURR

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

China is also building more wind and solar than anybody else. They are building coal plants as well because with over a billion people they need all the power they can get.

China is also building more wind and solar than anybody else.

Does that mean the coal they burn doesn't kill the planet?

with over a billion people they need all the power they can get.

If they need more power, does that mean the coal they burn doesn't kill the planet?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You know what happens in winter in Europe? The wind blows. Especially over the ocean. And Spain is part of Europe, as well as Italy and Greece. The Saudis are building out major solar, and talking of a big DC line to Europe, like we have from Washington to San
Diego.

Is that why electricity is so much more expensive in Europe? All the cheap wind power?

 

[ding]

I know you're a moron, but the Netherlands has their own huge gas field that they shut down in order to use wind and solar. Because they're stupid, like you.

It was in my link.

After shutting down production at the massive Groningen gas field last year, the Dutch government has pushed a fast transition to electric heating, solar power and battery storage.

DURR

Can’t have all that waste heat from generating electricity from fossil fuels warming the planet when they want the planet to cool in the middle of an ice age.

 

[toobfreak]

China is also building more wind and solar than anybody else. They are building coal plants as well because with over a billion people they need all the power they can get.

So in other words, despite all of the solar and wind, China still needs beaucoup coal plants, and building more every day.
And just who doesn't need all the power they can get?

Obviously, while some of our energy needs can be fed with wind and solar, not all of them can be, nor even the lion's share.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So in other words, despite all of the solar and wind, China still needs beaucoup coal plants, and building more every day.
And just who doesn't need all the power they can get?

Obviously, while some of our energy needs can be fed with wind and solar, not all of them can be, nor even the lion's share.

China figured out that unreliable wind and solar need plenty of cheap, reliable fossil fuel backup.

If only our green idiots in the West could learn from the Chinese.

 

[toobfreak]

China figured out that unreliable wind and solar need plenty of cheap, reliable fossil fuel backup.
If only our green idiots in the West could learn from the Chinese.

So, in other words, solar and wind are merely ways of cutting back from burning and saving a little coal for another, rainy day.

 

[Concerned American]

Solar has surpassed nuclear as the largest contributor of electrical power in Europe. The combination of much less costly battery storage and ease of construction, solar has surpassed even nuclear. Coal is almost out of the picture.

Hmmm. 2300 Europeans have died of heat related causes so far this year. Could this change have something to do with it?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So, in other words, solar and wind are merely ways of cutting back from burning and saving a little coal for another, rainy day.

Usually at a higher total cost.

 

[Old Rocks]

Hmmm. 2300 Europeans have died of heat related causes so far this year. Could this change have something to do with it?

Dumb-de-dumb dumb. An unprecedented heat wave, as in a changing climate, is what it has to do with it. But the willfully ignorant MAGAts will continue to deny anything has changed because of their idiot and senile cult leader.