Improving Capitalism

[ralfy]

And then something will replace smartphones together with similar claims.

yes dear under capitalism you can advertise pet rocks all you want and wont sell many . Now even you can understand that Republican capitalism improves our standard of living at the fastest rate possible.

Except that pet rocks don't represent the bulk of non-necessities sold for decades.

Republican capitalism? The difference between both parties are superficial, dealing with issues such as those involving gender and religion. In general, both are two sides of the same coin which requires consumer spending, an expensive military to keep the petro-dollar propped up, and easy credit coupled with tax cuts to increase living standards.

 

[ralfy]

peak oil???? with prices lower than ever and new discoveries all over the world??? Ever heard of shale and fracking???

Which OPEC and Iran are trying their damnedest to **** up.

The catch is that both have high production costs, just like the U.S.

You dont know what your talking about.
This is coming from someone who was in the oil industry for 25 years.

According to the IEA, conventional production peaked after 2005:

International Energy Agency says peak oil has hit. Crisis averted - CSMonitor.com

which is why we used shale oil to meet increasing demand. It also helped that prices went up because unconventional production has higher production costs.

The problem is that oil prices have gone down again (the same thing happened in 2009) together with other commodities:

Commodity prices collapse to lowest in 12 years - Telegraph

which means we're now facing another round of deflation. The end of QE is not helping:

The Oil Price Fall An Explanation in Two Charts

Meanwhile, production costs, marginal costs, and capital expenditures remain high:

Columbia SIPA Center on Global Energy Policy Global Oil Market Forecasting Main Approaches Key Drivers

which together with lower oil prices explains why rig counts are dropping:

Baker Hughes rig count March 20 - Business Insider

and debts rising, prompting continued production:

Oil Companies May Keep Up Output to Repay Debt BIS Says - Bloomberg Business

None of these counter the argument concerning peak oil. In fact, the need to discover more oil and resorting to shale oil confirms it.

Finally, the implication is that what we are doing is far removed from improving capitalism. If any, we are maintaining production by paying more.

You just posted all that crap and it only backs up my statement.
Thanks dude.

No, they counter your statement.

 

[ralfy]

But not if it means paying taxes to build schools and hire teachers.

That's an entirely different subject. I have no desire to pay for government brainwashing mills.

Does your state run a brainwashing mill?

State run public schools = brainwashing.

Actually, the public education system was formed by industrialists.

Got a link? And lets say thats true,where does that put the democrats?
Square in the pocket of industrialist.
You're not very good at this are you?

For public education, try these:



How to Break Free of Our 19th-Century Factory-Model Education System The Atlantic

universal education By John Taylor Gatto YES Magazine

Finally, what does this have to do with democrats? As I said, the differences between the two political parties are superficial. Both are together with citizens in general beholden to Big Business in return for easy credit.

This explains why modern education resembles a business, with hierarchies, quantification, and standardization.

Capitalism requires such training in order to produce not just competent and obedient works but also consumers. All these guarantee increasing production and consumption, and thus more profits and economic growth.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The meddling government is what holds back capitalism.

Actually, it's the other way round.

Sure thing comrade..

Revealed the capitalist network that runs the world - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist

And you think the government is going to solve the problem?
They're the one's supporting it you dipshit.

I never argued that the government will solve this problem. If any, governments work for Big Business.

Well no shit. If you want to beat the industrialist you have no choice but to get the politicians on your side.
Good luck with that.
The only way thats gonna happen is through a revolution.

 

[ralfy]

The meddling government is what holds back capitalism.

Actually, it's the other way round.

Sure thing comrade..

Revealed the capitalist network that runs the world - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist

Thanks for your link!
"The idea that a few bankers control a large chunk of the global economy might not seem like news to New York's Occupy Wall Street movement and protesters elsewhere (see photo).

"But the study, by a trio of complex systems theorists at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich, is the first to go beyond ideology to empirically identify such a network of power. It combines the mathematics long used to model natural systems with comprehensive corporate data to map ownership among the world's transnational corporations (TNCs).

"'Reality is so complex, we must move away from dogma, whether it's conspiracy theories or free-market,' says James Glattfelder. 'Our analysis is reality-based.'"

Reality based politics?

Revealed the capitalist network that runs the world - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist

And you dont think politicians have anything to do with it?

Governments exists to ensure that those in financial power remain. This explains why capitalism "improved" through incredible levels (in notional value) of unregulated derivatives reached:

Top Derivatives Expert Estimates Size of the Global Derivatives Market at 1 200 Trillion Dollars ... 20 Times Larger than the Global Economy Washington s Blog

and how governments scrambled to bail out bankers when fallout from only a fraction of that market clobbered the global economy.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

That's an entirely different subject. I have no desire to pay for government brainwashing mills.

Does your state run a brainwashing mill?

State run public schools = brainwashing.

Actually, the public education system was formed by industrialists.

Got a link? And lets say thats true,where does that put the democrats?
Square in the pocket of industrialist.
You're not very good at this are you?

For public education, try these:



How to Break Free of Our 19th-Century Factory-Model Education System The Atlantic

universal education By John Taylor Gatto YES Magazine

Finally, what does this have to do with democrats? As I said, the differences between the two political parties are superficial. Both are together with citizens in general beholden to Big Business in return for easy credit.

This explains why modern education resembles a business, with hierarchies, quantification, and standardization.

Capitalism requires such training in order to produce not just competent and obedient works but also consumers. All these guarantee increasing production and consumption, and thus more profits and economic growth.

I have to assume you're a youngster. Every adult I know has figured out what you're spouting already.

 

[ralfy]

Actually, it's the other way round.

Sure thing comrade..

Revealed the capitalist network that runs the world - physics-math - 19 October 2011 - New Scientist

And you think the government is going to solve the problem?
They're the one's supporting it you dipshit.

I never argued that the government will solve this problem. If any, governments work for Big Business.

Well no shit. If you want to beat the industrialist you have no choice but to get the politicians on your side.
Good luck with that.
The only way thats gonna happen is through a revolution.

I never argued that that's going to happen.

And I don't think a revolution will take place. Rather, the global capitalist economy will fall on its own weight, causing much of the human population to suffer:

Limits to Growth was right. New research shows we re nearing collapse Cathy Alexander and Graham Turner Comment is free The Guardian

 

[ralfy]

Does your state run a brainwashing mill?

State run public schools = brainwashing.

Actually, the public education system was formed by industrialists.

Got a link? And lets say thats true,where does that put the democrats?
Square in the pocket of industrialist.
You're not very good at this are you?

For public education, try these:



How to Break Free of Our 19th-Century Factory-Model Education System The Atlantic

universal education By John Taylor Gatto YES Magazine

Finally, what does this have to do with democrats? As I said, the differences between the two political parties are superficial. Both are together with citizens in general beholden to Big Business in return for easy credit.

This explains why modern education resembles a business, with hierarchies, quantification, and standardization.

Capitalism requires such training in order to produce not just competent and obedient works but also consumers. All these guarantee increasing production and consumption, and thus more profits and economic growth.

I have to assume you're a youngster. Every adult I know has figured out what you're spouting already.

Given my measured responses, likely not.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

State run public schools = brainwashing.

Actually, the public education system was formed by industrialists.

Got a link? And lets say thats true,where does that put the democrats?
Square in the pocket of industrialist.
You're not very good at this are you?

For public education, try these:



How to Break Free of Our 19th-Century Factory-Model Education System The Atlantic

universal education By John Taylor Gatto YES Magazine

Finally, what does this have to do with democrats? As I said, the differences between the two political parties are superficial. Both are together with citizens in general beholden to Big Business in return for easy credit.

This explains why modern education resembles a business, with hierarchies, quantification, and standardization.

Capitalism requires such training in order to produce not just competent and obedient works but also consumers. All these guarantee increasing production and consumption, and thus more profits and economic growth.

I have to assume you're a youngster. Every adult I know has figured out what you're spouting already.

Given my measured responses, likely not.

Measured? Shiiiit...from what I've seen you cant be more than twenty.

 

[regent]

When liberals passed child labor laws the Supreme Court shot the laws down. To continue the fight prohibiting child labor, the states passed mandatory education laws.

 

[bripat9643]

That's an entirely different subject. I have no desire to pay for government brainwashing mills.

Does your state run a brainwashing mill?

State run public schools = brainwashing.

Actually, the public education system was formed by industrialists.

Got a link? And lets say thats true,where does that put the democrats?
Square in the pocket of industrialist.
You're not very good at this are you?

For public education, try these:



How to Break Free of Our 19th-Century Factory-Model Education System The Atlantic

universal education By John Taylor Gatto YES Magazine

Finally, what does this have to do with democrats? As I said, the differences between the two political parties are superficial. Both are together with citizens in general beholden to Big Business in return for easy credit.

This explains why modern education resembles a business, with hierarchies, quantification, and standardization.

Capitalism requires such training in order to produce not just competent and obedient works but also consumers. All these guarantee increasing production and consumption, and thus more profits and economic growth.

Modern education resembles government brainwashing mills, not a business. You could have seen the exact same brand of education in the former Soviet Union.

The stuff you post is absolutely absurd. It sounds like it comes straight from the Daily Worker.

 

[bripat9643]

Actually, the public education system was formed by industrialists.

Got a link? And lets say thats true,where does that put the democrats?
Square in the pocket of industrialist.
You're not very good at this are you?

For public education, try these:



How to Break Free of Our 19th-Century Factory-Model Education System The Atlantic

universal education By John Taylor Gatto YES Magazine

Finally, what does this have to do with democrats? As I said, the differences between the two political parties are superficial. Both are together with citizens in general beholden to Big Business in return for easy credit.

This explains why modern education resembles a business, with hierarchies, quantification, and standardization.

Capitalism requires such training in order to produce not just competent and obedient works but also consumers. All these guarantee increasing production and consumption, and thus more profits and economic growth.

I have to assume you're a youngster. Every adult I know has figured out what you're spouting already.

Given my measured responses, likely not.

Measured? Shiiiit...from what I've seen you cant be more than twenty.

Whatever his age, he spouts commie propaganda like a Soviet agent.

 

[georgephillip]

Governments exists to ensure that those in financial power remain

It would be hard to improve on that assessment of history so far. Those with the gold make the rules. As the moral arc of the universe bends slowly toward freedom, governments have been forced to find substitutes for brute force, and derivatives and other forms of financial speculation serve that purpose.
"According to one of the world’s leading derivatives experts, Paul Wilmott, who holds a doctorate in applied mathematics from Oxford University (and whose speaking voice sounds eerily like John Lennon’s), $1.2 quadrillion is the so-called notional value of the worldwide derivatives market. To put that in perspective, the world’s annual gross domestic product is between $50 trillion and $60 trillion."
The rich have always believed while it's wrong to steal money from a physically weaker victim, it is perfectly acceptable to steal from those with less education or intelligence; hopefully, that will be their last mistake.
Top Derivatives Expert Estimates Size of the Global Derivatives Market at 1 200 Trillion Dollars ... 20 Times Larger than the Global Economy Washington s Blog

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

the global capitalist economy will fall on its own weight, causing much of the human population to suffer:

dear, global capitalism just eliminated, in an instant, 40% of the world's poverty. Capitalism is God's work on earth. It is thriving like never before.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

$1.2 quadrillion is the so-called notional value of the worldwide derivatives market.

and why is this a good thing??

 

[georgephillip]

dear, global capitalism just eliminated, in an instant, 40% of the world's poverty. Capitalism is God's work on earth. It is thriving like never before

God's work?
You mean like Goldman Sachs and Chinese slave labor?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

dear, global capitalism just eliminated, in an instant, 40% of the world's poverty. Capitalism is God's work on earth. It is thriving like never before

God's work?
You mean like Goldman Sachs and Chinese slave labor?

dear, China just eliminated 40% of world poverty thanks to Republican capitalism.

 

[TC_Triple3]

This video has an interesting take on an aspect of capitalism that doesn't get discussed often enough. I'm looking forward to a completion of the series and getting everyone's impressions about the issue of the separation of labor and capital.

Separate? Labor IS capital!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

This video has an interesting take on an aspect of capitalism that doesn't get discussed often enough. I'm looking forward to a completion of the series and getting everyone's impressions about the issue of the separation of labor and capital.

Seperate? Labor IS capital!

dear, we can all post millions of links. Can you express yourself and tell us what you have against Republican capitalism?

 

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