Impeach Cheney...?

[Bullypulpit]

Bruce Fein, former Associate Deputy Attorney General under Ronald Reagan, <a href=http://www.slate.com/id/2169292>has called for Cheney's impeachment</a>. This in light of Cheney's recent claims that his office is somehow not part of the executive branch. He stated, "Cheney has dulled political accountability and concocted theories for evading the law and Constitution that would have embarrassed King George III," and it's not the first time he's taken Cheney and the Bush administration to task for their excesses. Follow the link for a comprehensive review of those excesses.

More to the point, however, is the powers Cheney has accrued to the office of Vice-President which are unprecedented by any standard. And his abuse of that power has also been unprecedented. How much longer will the representatives of "...We the people..." allow this administration to continue these excesses unchallenged?

 

[red states rule]

Bruce Fein, former Associate Deputy Attorney General under Ronald Reagan, <a href=http://www.slate.com/id/2169292>has called for Cheney's impeachment</a>. This in light of Cheney's recent claims that his office is somehow not part of the executive branch. He stated, "Cheney has dulled political accountability and concocted theories for evading the law and Constitution that would have embarrassed King George III," and it's not the first time he's taken Cheney and the Bush administration to task for their excesses. Follow the link for a comprehensive review of those excesses.

More to the point, however, is the powers Cheney has accrued to the office of Vice-President which are unprecedented by any standard. And his abuse of that power has also been unprecedented. How much longer will the representatives of "...We the people..." allow this administration to continue these excesses unchallenged?

I guess this shows how libs view things

If we can't beat em - impeach em

Please try BP. The the poll numbers for Dems will dip into the single digits

 

[Bullypulpit]

I guess this shows how libs view things

If we can't beat em - impeach em

Please try BP. The the poll numbers for Dems will dip into the single digits

In case you missed it, which it seems you did, Bruce Fein is a <b>REPUBLICAN</b> and former Associate Deputy Attorney General under Ronald Reagan.

As for beating them, that's already done as evidenced by the intellectual bankruptcy on the right, and we may not be have the time to wait before the next election.

 

[Care4all]

Gosh! I thought this was a pole?

Impeach Cheney:

YES OR NO?

 

[Superlative]

So much reading. So much Cheney.

Working in the Background

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney/chapters/chapter_1/

Wars and Interrogations

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney/chapters/pushing_the_envelope_on_presi/index.html

Dominating Budget Decisions

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney/chapters/a_strong_push_from_back_stage/index.html

Environmental Policy

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney/chapters/leaving_no_tracks/index.html

I wonder if they will publish things like this after Murdoch takes over.

 

[Care4all]

So much reading. So much Cheney.

Working in the Background

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney/chapters/chapter_1/

Wars and Interrogations

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney/chapters/pushing_the_envelope_on_presi/index.html

Dominating Budget Decisions

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney/chapters/a_strong_push_from_back_stage/index.html

Environmental Policy

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney/chapters/leaving_no_tracks/index.html

I wonder if they will publish things like this after Murdoch takes over.

I'm telling ya, they should NOT LET THAT DEAL GO THROUGH.

Murdoch can not be trusted when he says he will keep them independent.

He said this on his last British merger/takeover and in less than a month he fired their head and told them what he wanted in the news and what he didn't, basically.

And it isn't just Murdoch, I don't think any of the Big guns in R.o.p. should monopolize the news.... I think they are too consolidated already.... but heh, what do I know?

Care

 

[actsnoblemartin]

While i do not believe bush lied about iraq, I firmly believe cheney lied, and have no problem with impeaching him.

Cheny is a dick, im sorry

just because im conservative doesnt mean im not fair.

I'm telling ya, they should NOT LET THAT DEAL GO THROUGH.

Murdoch can not be trusted when he says he will keep them independent.

He said this on his last British merger/takeover and in less than a month he fired their head and told them what he wanted in the news and what he didn't, basically.

And it isn't just Murdoch, I don't think any of the Big guns in R.o.p. should monopolize the news.... I think they are too consolidated already.... but heh, what do I know?

Care

 

[Superlative]

Cheny is a dick, im sorry

Funny shit.

Not because he is a Dick, but because he is Dick.

 

[actsnoblemartin]

hahaha. thats funny.

He doesnt even deseve p****.

He is a big liar, and one of the meanest people in washington.

You wanna impeach him or bush, or make charges against him, im all for it, but you have to prove it. And im sure you think you can, as long as you do it, after they leave office, why not?.

then, if they are found innocent, you owe them an apology, just kidding

Funny shit.

Not because he is a Dick, but because he is Dick.

 

[Stephanie]

Oh brother...

For the past six yrs.....

It's been....IMPEACH BUSH, IMPEACH CHENEY....bla bla bla...

If ya all had something on them to impeach them for...

It would of been done by now..

But....ya all can keep dreaming, if it makes ya feel better...

 

[actsnoblemartin]

Im not happy with him.

Oh brother...

For the past six yrs.....

It's been....IMPEACH BUSH, IMPEACH CHENEY....bla bla bla...

If ya all had something on them to impeach them for...

It would of been done by now..

But....ya all can keep dreaming, if it makes ya feel better...

 

[Stephanie]

Impeach Impeach Impeach..

Seems to be the only thing the Democrats can think about today..

Ever since their sleezball, playboy of a President was impeached...

It's actually rather amusing to watch...

 

[Bullypulpit]

Oh brother...

For the past six yrs.....

It's been....IMPEACH BUSH, IMPEACH CHENEY....bla bla bla...

If ya all had something on them to impeach them for...

It would of been done by now..

But....ya all can keep dreaming, if it makes ya feel better...

If we had a Congress more interested in honoring their Constitutional duties than advancing their careers, Bush and Cheney would have both been impeached already. But as it stands the venal and self-serving congressional delegation we currently have will continue to do nothing.

 

[Stephanie]

If we had a Congress more interested in honoring their Constitutional duties than advancing their careers, Bush and Cheney would have both been impeached already. But as it stands the venal and self-serving congressional delegation we currently have will continue to do nothing.

One other little problem...

You have to have an impeachable offense, to proceed...

As I said....The Dems. have been chomping at the bit to impeach someone...

So...if they had any sort of crime that was committed, it would of been DONE BY NOW...

But, it has been fun watching all the neeked beach goers in San. Fran spell out IMPEACH........on the beach.....

 

[Larkinn]

One other little problem...

You have to have an impeachable offense, to proceed...

As I said....The Dems. have been chomping at the bit to impeach someone...

So...if they had any sort of crime that was committed, it would of been DONE BY NOW...

But, it has been fun watching all the neeked beach goers in San. Fran spell out IMPEACH........on the beach.....

Do you honestly think the Republican congress, which has generally bent over backwards to serve Bush, would impeach him without a blatant and obvious violation of law?

His violations have been subtle. And no...the left has been chomping at the bit to impeach someone, the Democrats don't seem interested in it at all.

 

[Stephanie]

Do you honestly think the Republican congress, which has generally bent over backwards to serve Bush, would impeach him without a blatant and obvious violation of law?

His violations have been subtle. And no...the left has been chomping at the bit to impeach someone, the Democrats don't seem interested in it at all.

Wait a minute now...

Last I heard it was a Democrat Congress...

So, I guess the bitch is with them, not like their not trying to find, ANYTHING...

I say go for it....Congress approval rating is already in the toilet, so if the Dems start impeachment, especially since we have troops out in the field, more better for the Republicans in 08....

 

[JeffWartman]

Do you honestly think the Republican congress, which has generally bent over backwards to serve Bush, would impeach him without a blatant and obvious violation of law?

His violations have been subtle. And no...the left has been chomping at the bit to impeach someone, the Democrats don't seem interested in it at all.

What "high crime and misdemeanor" has the Vice President committed?

 

[jillian]

Wait a minute now...

Last I heard it was a Democrat Congress...

So, I guess the bitch is with them, not like their not trying to find, ANYTHING...

I say go for it....Congress approval rating is already in the toilet, so if the Dems start impeachment, especially since we have troops out in the field, more better for the Republicans in 08....

Hello, Steffie, dear.

Problem is they're intentionally keeping the soldiers in the field.

Congress' approval rating is in the pits because Bush keeps vetoing anything worthwhile and we can't override with the current congress

 

[Care4all]

One other little problem...

You have to have an impeachable offense, to proceed...

As I said....The Dems. have been chomping at the bit to impeach someone...

So...if they had any sort of crime that was committed, it would of been DONE BY NOW...

But, it has been fun watching all the neeked beach goers in San. Fran spell out IMPEACH........on the beach.....

Stephanie, many state legislatures have impeachment resolutions pending.

Here is the Texas Impeachment Resolution Introduced:

HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION
WHEREAS, The elemental source for initiating congressional
impeachment proceedings is found in The Constitution, Jefferson's
Manual, and Rules of the United States House of Representatives;
Section 603 of Jefferson's Manual of Parliamentary Practice
authorizes federal impeachment proceedings to be initiated by joint
resolution of a state or territorial legislature as a matter of
privilege; and

WHEREAS, Precedent for employing this authority is
well-established and documented in Hinds' Precedents of the House
of Representatives of the United States; one such entry relates to a
1903 joint resolution passed by the Florida state legislature
requesting that the U.S. Congress impeach U.S. District Judge
Charles Swayne that resulted in a senate trial; and

WHEREAS, Invoking this authority, the people of the state of
Texas charge that President George W. Bush has violated the United
States Constitution and other federal law and abused the power of
his office to the extreme detriment of the country and the interests
of its citizens, actions that constitute high crimes and
misdemeanors; and

WHEREAS, President Bush conspired with others to defraud the
United States of America by intentionally misleading the congress
and the nation regarding an Iraqi threat to the American people to
justify a war in direct defiance of the United Nations Security
Council and in violation of Section 371, Title 18, United States
Code; in so doing, President Bush and members of his
administration: 1) overstated the offensive capabilities of Iraq,
including that country's supposed possession of weapons of mass
destruction, and manipulated and distorted intelligence relating
to Iraq's weapons program during a plenary session of the United
Nations and in direct contradiction to evidence gathered by
international weapons inspectors; 2) manipulated public opinion by
repeatedly and erroneously linking Saddam Hussein and the Iraqi
government with the terrorist organization responsible for the
attacks of September 11, 2001, al Qaeda; and 3) manipulated public
opinion by stating in the State of the Union Address that Saddam
Hussein had sought "significant quantities of uranium from Africa,"
despite confirmation from the Central Intelligence Agency and
officials from foreign governments that the documents supporting
these claims were forged; and

WHEREAS, The Bush Administration's decision to invade Iraq in
2003 was an unnecessarily reckless endeavor; while Saddam Hussein
was a despotic leader who had used chemical weapons against Iran, as
well as the Kurdish and Shia people, and required prudent and
efficacious attention by the United States and the international
community in order to maintain peace and stability in the Middle
East, the invasion of Iraq, in fact, necessitated the removal of
United Nations weapons inspectors who were on the ground in Iraq and
uninhibited from performing their job of monitoring Iraq's weapons
of mass destruction capabilities; in fact, during the 11 years
before the invasion, the United States enforced a no-fly zone over
60 percent of Iraq's airspace, significantly restricting the
country's military movement and activity throughout its territory;
and

WHEREAS, Indeed, Iraq posed no threat to the territory or
people of the United States, yet the 2003 invasion of Iraq has
resulted in the deaths of more than 3,200 American soldiers and a
reported 59,000 Iraqi civilians, over 23,000 wounded American
soldiers, and severely diminished American military readiness; the
fiscal cost of the war will reach $500 billion by the end of 2007;
and

WHEREAS, In addition, to meet the needed manpower to execute
the invasion, President Bush has federalized and deployed members
of the Texas National Guard overseas, thereby subverting the power
granted to congress under Section 8, Article 1, United States
Constitution, to call "forth the militia to execute the laws of the
Union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions"; regrettably,
the illegal deployment of the Texas National Guard deprives the
state of its primary mechanism for defense and emergency response,
needlessly jeopardizing the safety of Texans; and

WHEREAS, Under the guise of the war on terror, the Bush
Administration has held American citizens and citizens of other
sovereign nations without charge or trial; despite these secretive
detentions, the United States has been embarrassed by revelations
of torture and abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib, and evidence
suggests that President Bush has authorized the use of similar acts
of torture in the interrogation of detainees in American facilities
around the world; and

WHEREAS, These detentions are clear violations of
international and federal law; as a signatory to the Geneva
Conventions, the United States is bound to provisions of Article 13
requiring that "Prisoners of war must at all times be humanely
treated . . ." and Article 17 stating that "no physical or mental
torture, nor any other form of coercion, may be inflicted on
prisoners of war to secure from them information of any kind
whatever"; and

WHEREAS, Furthermore, the War Crimes Act of 1996 provides
that a person who acts in breach of the Geneva Conventions has
committed a war crime and is subject to punishment under federal
law; similarly, Article VI of the United States Constitution
provides that ". . . all treaties made, or which shall be made,
under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law
of the land . . . ."; and

WHEREAS, The Bush Administration's defiance of the Geneva
Conventions has potentially threatened the lives and well-being of
American soldiers captured as prisoners of war in future conflicts;
likewise, the Bush Administration's defiance of international law
has tarnished the United States' reputation as a country founded on
principles of human rights and diminished America's integrity and
influence in the international community; and

WHEREAS, In an effort to further manipulate public opinion
relating to the justification for the Iraq war, the Bush
Administration leaked classified information, knowingly revealing
the identities of covert U.S. intelligence agents and exposing them
to potential harm and retribution; and

WHEREAS, The Bush Administration's breaches of law are not
limited to international affairs, having similarly violated the
public trust by suppressing scientific information and altering
government documents relating to the causes and effects of global
warming with the intention of deceiving the American public; and

WHEREAS, President Bush's illegal actions have also
undermined the balance of power between the branches of government;
in clear violation of the Fourth Amendment, President Bush has
publicly admitted to ordering the National Security Agency to
contravene provisions of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
of 1978, specifically authorizing the agency to spy on American
citizens without securing a search warrant; and

WHEREAS, President Bush has also subverted congressional
authority with regard to domestic policy by filing hundreds of
signing statements that declare the administration's official
legal interpretation of legislation passed by congress; in more
than 750 instances, the president has asserted an authority to
ignore numerous sections of the bills he has signed into law,
including legislation relating to military rules and regulations,
affirmative-action provisions, requirements that congress be told
about immigration services problems, "whistle-blower" protections
for nuclear regulatory officials, and safeguards against political
interference in federally funded research; and

WHEREAS, Moreover, President Bush has overtly undermined the
authority of congress; the Bush Administration has undermined
specific provisions of the Clean Air Act by changing Environmental
Protection Agency rules to allow older power plants, refineries,
and factories to upgrade their facilities without installing newer,
more advanced pollution control technologies, thereby increasing
the amount of pollution and threatening the health of all
Americans; and

WHEREAS, In order to secure passage of the Medicare
Prescription Drug, Modernization, and Improvement Act of 2003, the
Bush Administration knowingly misled congress regarding the cost of
the bill by providing a $400 billion cost estimate to lawmakers
while government documents revealed the true cost was calculated by
administration officials to exceed $500 billion; be it

RESOLVED, That the 80th Legislature of the State of Texas
submit the charges contained herein to the United States House of
Representatives under the authority of Section 603 of The
Constitution, Jefferson's Manual, and Rules of the United States
House of Representatives; and, be it further

RESOLVED, That the charges contained herein constitute proof
that the president of the United States has wilfully violated his
oath of office to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of
the United States; and, be it further

RESOLVED, That George W. Bush, if found guilty of the charges
contained herein, should be removed from office and disqualified to
hold any other office in the United States.

Vermont's Impeachment Resolution is much simpler:

State of Vermont
Senate Chamber


Montpelier, Vermont
Senate Resolution


By Senators White and Shumlin,

S.R. 16. Senate resolution urging Vermont’s Representative in the United States House of Representatives to introduce, and Vermont’s United States Senators to support, a resolution requiring the United States House Judiciary Committee to initiate impeachment proceedings against the President and the Vice President of the United States.

Whereas, President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney have exercised the duties of their respective offices with respect to both domestic and foreign affairs in ways that raise serious questions of constitutionality, statutory legality, and abuse of the public trust, and

Whereas, the President’s conduct in his role as Commander in Chief in leading our nation into the military conflict in Iraq, and the Vice President’s continual advocacy for American troops remaining in Iraq, have cost the United States much of the good will that was extended to our country in the wake of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States, and

Whereas, the President’s and the Vice President’s domestic leadership on issues relating to individual privacy and personal liberty under law has raised constitutional issues of the greatest concern to the nation’s citizenry, now therefore be it

Resolved by the Senate:

That the Senate of the State of Vermont urges Vermont’s Representative in the United States House of Representatives to introduce, and Vermont’s United States Senators to support, a resolution requiring the United States House Judiciary Committee to initiate impeachment proceedings against the President and the Vice President of the United States, and be it further

Resolved: That the Secretary of the Senate be directed to send a copy of this resolution to Unites States Representative Peter Welch, United States Senator Patrick J. Leahy and United States Senator Bernard Sanders.

There are another couple of handfuls of these resolutions making it through the various States and they ALL seem to think they have reasons for impeachment of the two of them... some of the reasons are listed in the quotes I posted from just two of the States.

I am not saying anything will come of these actions of theirs, just that they have given reasons for impeachment! (DON'T shoot the messenger! )

Care

 

[Stephanie]

Hello, Steffie, dear.

Problem is they're intentionally keeping the soldiers in the field.

Congress' approval rating is in the pits because Bush keeps vetoing anything worthwhile and we can't override with the current congress

Hey, long time no see Jilly dear....

Tell you the truth, I'm pretty disgusted with BOTH parties right now, and I'm really ticked with President Bush for pushing this immigration bill on us...

But, what I've seen....
I've not seen any impeachable offense that Dick Cheney has committed...
So, as far as I'm concerned, this impeach Cheney, is people just blowing smoke out of their butts....