Immigration is Destroying America.

[kaz]

I want a country with AMERICANS in it, not foreign invaders, here to steal America's wealth, and enrich themselves and the foreign countries they come from, all the while overpopulating the US, with all the harms that accompany that.

Americans aren't xenophobic cowards like you are who want to keep foreigners, their money or their products out of our country. We believe in ourselves and don't worry about competing economically, we'll not only be fine, we'll prosper. So trust me, a small minded, coward like you who is afraid of foreigners taking your job isn't going to want us around either. You should reconsider the remote island.

52% Say U.S. Not Aggressive Enough in Deportations; 14% Say Too Aggressive >> so says report of Rasmussen Poll taken 2 weeks ago. But that's OK. If you really feel the need to come in here and make an idiot out of yourself, be assured there's no law against it.

So how are things going in the restaurant ? Gotta be sure your illegal alien crew has their pick-up running smoothly. If they can't get to work, you might have to go to a temporary employment agency to get staff. And you might even have to pay them a fair American wage ? Wouldn't want that would you ?

And no, I certainly wouldn't trust you. I don't make a habit of trusting traitors who sell out the American people to save money on wages. to cheap foreign labor, like you right Mr. vested interest, illegal employer ? And you're right about me not wanting you around. Well, maybe after a visit from ICE you won't be.

52% Say U.S. Not Aggressive Enough in Deportations; 14% Say Too Aggressive - Rasmussen Reports?

Irrelevant. I clearly said you are wrong about legal immigration, I didn't support illegal immigration. Do you have anything on my post or are you just going after the pick hippos?

 

[kaz]

HA HA >> "legal immigrants working grows the economy" What a load of crap!
If you had read this thread before barging in here unknowingly, you'd know that immigrants (ANY immigrants) SHRINK the economy by $70 Billion/year in remittances. They also drain the economy by diverting tens of Billions$$ more in taxes to pay for welfare, for the ones on welfare.
And you're right that "no one in this country should be unemployed." And if we didn't have 40 million immigrants here, there wouldn't be any one unemployed.

There may be some Americans who really don't want to work. OK. There's always a few deadbeats around. But they're no different than the immigrants on welfare, who are the majority of welfare recipients. And as far as Americans who DO want to work, they work every bit as hard as any foreigner, and the toughest, dirtiest, and most dangerous jobs in America, are not being done by immigrants. They are being done by Americans (firefighters, coal miners, troops in Afghanistan, US Army Corps of Engineers construction workers, etc)

Unlike you, I know what I'm talking about. People who work in free markets create economic value, they grow the economy. It's indisputable, I don't need to read whatever garbage you posted earlier in the thread.

And no one has an excuse to not have a job. The only reason that anyone doesn't is either they won't take a job "beneath" them or they won't clean themselves up to be presentable and work hard. That you prefer a lazy American to a working foreigner is just exactly what I expect from a coward like you.

Americans need no help from protection or immigrant fear. We will prosper and win. Well, you won't, but that's because you're a loser.

It's highly disputable, and I already disputed (and refuted ) it. So you got some pro-immigration propaganda talking points to throw around. How nice. You know what you can do with them.

How the hell would you know about not having a job ? You're a business owner. I've already posted piles of posts in this thread that have long ago refuted your inane, late-arriving BS. You just don't know any better.

And I never said I prefer a lazy anybody. And working foreigners are not as hard working as the hardest working Americans, and you can trust ME on that. I used to be one of them > 5 years as a Combat Construction Specialist (MOS 12B20) in the US Army Corps of Engineers, that if your oh so hard-working foreigners ever saw, they'd probably faint.

And you can quit the hard work foreigner routine too. Everybody knows you just want to boost your profits, by reducing your labor costs with cheap, immigrant labor, you cheap 2 bit phony.

LOL, now you're Marxist are you? You grasp this country not at all. "Profits" are economic value. That is what private companies in free markets create. And that is why the US is so wealthy, we do it very well. All wealth is created by "profits." LOL, Vladimir. You're a Marxist, xenophobic anti-capitalistic fear mongering coward who is afraid of foreigners and competition. Foreigners? Foreign companies? Competition? I love it baby, bring it on. We have NOTHING to be afraid of. We are the best. And I love this country. We even tolerate losers like you.

 

[protectionist]

American citizens invest their money over seas. You don't own anyone's assets but your own.

1) ^^^ [MENTION=45665]protectionist[/MENTION] thinks our guests can live here without buying products and services, without buying food and shelter. Yes he really does...

2) Welfare goes to the poor, poor immigrants are not supposed to be collecting welfare that's one of the conditions for legal immigration. Blaming welfare on legal immigrants is ludicrous, they don't even vote.

3) If there is no ceiling to the amount of work to be done who the eff cares if our guests do the work we invited them to come here and do? WTF? You want to pick strawberries? Plant a field of strawberries and effing pick them. To lazy? Or to xenophobic to hire a legal immigrant guest of ours to pick them? Find an American Citizen to pick them, there's no law saying you have to hire our guests.

1. Illegal immigrants mostly DON'T buy shelter or cars. They pack 20 people into a small house and split the rent up sop no one has to pay very much. They also pile 10 guys into an old pick up truck and split the cost of that too (without paying for insurance) The legal ones are generally better off, with higher paying jobs, but they also send huge amounts of $$ out of the country, depriving American businesses of those sales. Since you're a immigrant ass-kisser liberal, you probably don't care what happens to business owners.

2. Legal immigrants collect welfare every day. You don't know what you're talking about. They also vote, as do illegal ones (who aren't supposed to).

3. There IS a ceiling to the amount of work to be done. There are only so many jobs out there, and the more immigrants that are here grabbing those jobs, the less jobs there are for Americans. And no, there's no law saying you have to hire immigrants, but unscrupulous/traitorous companies do undercutting the standard wages of Americans, by hiring the cheap, foreign labor. (AKA Domestic Outsourcing)

ROFL... lol... ROFL...

Who the eff do you think your are deriding all of our guests because some of them have needy relatives in another country? WTF is wrong with you? Did your parents send your college money to your grandparents or something? Is that why you hate immigrants? Cause you hate your parents?

How dumb does one have to be to not be able to tell the difference between temporary work visas that work short term contracts such as the contractors that you used to pay 1099s to back in your day, vs legal immigrants here to become permanent American citizens?

1) Not even a good try at deflecting from your bull shit lies about immigrants not being consumers here in the States. Typically business owners are the ones asking for more immigrants, more cheap labor. You say I don't care about Business owners.? Where the hell did you get that idea? You're just making bull shit lies up left and right to deflect from your other bull shit lies.

2) You said "Legal immigrants collect welfare every day." Where? California? You said "They also vote, as do illegal ones." I call bull shit, show me a link where non-citizens have the right to vote.

3) You said "There IS a ceiling to the amount of work to be done." ROFL and that right there shows just how stupid you are. Where's the ceiling? Is it at 1t GDP? 10t? 100t? What forces the ceiling on GDP? Please educate us.

1. I've been educating you for a month in this thread. You just happen to be an exceedingly slow learner, that's all.

2. Our "guests"!!! Are you nuts ? I'm talking about illegal aliens. These are criminal INVADERS who ought to be shot on sight, as they climb over border fences.

3. RULE VIOLATION!! ("No Attacks on family members.")

4. How dumb does one have to be to not be able to see the similarity between temporary work visas that work short term contracts , vs legal immigrants here to become permanent American citizens? They both take jobs away from Americans. Are you getting enough sleep ? Pheeeeww!!

5. Where ? All over the US, that's where. You got a link explaining it. READ IT.

6. I didn't say non-citizens have the "right" to vote. YOU inserted that word I didn't. I just said that they do vote. If you don't know that, you're even more naive than I thought.
EARTH TO RKM: Illegals don't care one bit about what is legal. Didn't you know ? Just about everything they do, they do illegally. Arrive here, drive here without licenses, get phony documentation, buy stolen license plates, use citizens' social security #s, collect welfare, etc. Doing things illegally happens to be their lifestyle. It's how they live.

7. Well there's more education for you. You're welcome.

http://cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011

 

[kaz]

1. I've been educating you for a month in this thread. You just happen to be an exceedingly slow learner, that's all.

2. Our "guests"!!! Are you nuts ? I'm talking about illegal aliens. These are criminal INVADERS who ought to be shot on sight, as they climb over border fences.

3. RULE VIOLATION!! ("No Attacks on family members.")

4. How dumb does one have to be to not be able to see the similarity between temporary work visas that work short term contracts , vs legal immigrants here to become permanent American citizens? They both take jobs away from Americans. Are you getting enough sleep ? Pheeeeww!!

5. Where ? All over the US, that's where. You got a link explaining it. READ IT.

6. I didn't say non-citizens have the "right" to vote. YOU inserted that word I didn't. I just said that they do vote. If you don't know that, you're even more naive than I thought.
EARTH TO RKM: Illegals don't care one bit about what is legal. Didn't you know ? Just about everything they do, they do illegally. Arrive here, drive here without licenses, get phony documentation, buy stolen license plates, use citizens' social security #s, collect welfare, etc. Doing things illegally happens to be their lifestyle. It's how they live.

7. Well there's more education for you. You're welcome.

Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children | Center for Immigration Studies

You obviously have a reason to fear people taking your job. I guess at least you're realistic. Funny how we have become the most powerful country in the history of man by embracing capitalism and free markets, and you want to follow the templates of those we defeated down their course of protectionism and restricting access to foreign workers. It's your loser strategy.

BTW, I read RKM's post like 5 times and I saw nowhere he said anything about your family much less insulted them. Do you have drug problems as well as sniveling cowardice?

 

[RKMBrown]

1. I've been educating you for a month in this thread. You just happen to be an exceedingly slow learner, that's all.

2. Our "guests"!!! Are you nuts ? I'm talking about illegal aliens. These are criminal INVADERS who ought to be shot on sight, as they climb over border fences.

3. RULE VIOLATION!! ("No Attacks on family members.")

4. How dumb does one have to be to not be able to see the similarity between temporary work visas that work short term contracts , vs legal immigrants here to become permanent American citizens? They both take jobs away from Americans. Are you getting enough sleep ? Pheeeeww!!

5. Where ? All over the US, that's where. You got a link explaining it. READ IT.

6. I didn't say non-citizens have the "right" to vote. YOU inserted that word I didn't. I just said that they do vote. If you don't know that, you're even more naive than I thought.
EARTH TO RKM: Illegals don't care one bit about what is legal. Didn't you know ? Just about everything they do, they do illegally. Arrive here, drive here without licenses, get phony documentation, buy stolen license plates, use citizens' social security #s, collect welfare, etc. Doing things illegally happens to be their lifestyle. It's how they live.

7. Well there's more education for you. You're welcome.

Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children | Center for Immigration Studies

You obviously have a reason to fear people taking your job. I guess at least you're realistic. Funny how we have become the most powerful country in the history of man by embracing capitalism and free markets, and you want to follow the templates of those we defeated down their course of protectionism and restricting access to foreign workers. It's your loser strategy.

BTW, I read RKM's post like 5 times and I saw nowhere he said anything about your family much less insulted them. Do you have drug problems as well as sniveling cowardice?

Earlier in the thread he claimed his parents were immigrants. Then later on he claimed immigrants send their money off shore and that's one of the reasons why he doesn't want immigrants. So I asked the obvious question if that's what his parents did, and if that's why he's so angry at immigrants, cause he's angry at his parents for sending money he wanted off shore. I'm not attacking his parents, quite the opposite, I'm defending legal immigrants such as his parents from him. Course now it looks like he might be backing off a bit from his earlier claim that both legal and illegal immigration is destroying this country. Really I don't get why he hates what he says his parents did. But I would be interested in learning more. He's an interesting case, don't get to talk to many unstable people in my circle.

 

[theliq]

1. Illegal immigrants mostly DON'T buy shelter or cars. They pack 20 people into a small house and split the rent up sop no one has to pay very much. They also pile 10 guys into an old pick up truck and split the cost of that too (without paying for insurance) The legal ones are generally better off, with higher paying jobs, but they also send huge amounts of $$ out of the country, depriving American businesses of those sales. Since you're a immigrant ass-kisser liberal, you probably don't care what happens to business owners.

2. Legal immigrants collect welfare every day. You don't know what you're talking about. They also vote, as do illegal ones (who aren't supposed to).

3. There IS a ceiling to the amount of work to be done. There are only so many jobs out there, and the more immigrants that are here grabbing those jobs, the less jobs there are for Americans. And no, there's no law saying you have to hire immigrants, but unscrupulous/traitorous companies do undercutting the standard wages of Americans, by hiring the cheap, foreign labor. (AKA Domestic Outsourcing)

ROFL... lol... ROFL...

Who the eff do you think your are deriding all of our guests because some of them have needy relatives in another country? WTF is wrong with you? Did your parents send your college money to your grandparents or something? Is that why you hate immigrants? Cause you hate your parents?

How dumb does one have to be to not be able to tell the difference between temporary work visas that work short term contracts such as the contractors that you used to pay 1099s to back in your day, vs legal immigrants here to become permanent American citizens?

1) Not even a good try at deflecting from your bull shit lies about immigrants not being consumers here in the States. Typically business owners are the ones asking for more immigrants, more cheap labor. You say I don't care about Business owners.? Where the hell did you get that idea? You're just making bull shit lies up left and right to deflect from your other bull shit lies.

2) You said "Legal immigrants collect welfare every day." Where? California? You said "They also vote, as do illegal ones." I call bull shit, show me a link where non-citizens have the right to vote.

3) You said "There IS a ceiling to the amount of work to be done." ROFL and that right there shows just how stupid you are. Where's the ceiling? Is it at 1t GDP? 10t? 100t? What forces the ceiling on GDP? Please educate us.

1. I've been educating you for a month in this thread. You just happen to be an exceedingly slow learner, that's all.

2. Our "guests"!!! Are you nuts ? I'm talking about illegal aliens. These are criminal INVADERS who ought to be shot on sight, as they climb over border fences.

3. RULE VIOLATION!! ("No Attacks on family members.")

4. How dumb does one have to be to not be able to see the similarity between temporary work visas that work short term contracts , vs legal immigrants here to become permanent American citizens? They both take jobs away from Americans. Are you getting enough sleep ? Pheeeeww!!

5. Where ? All over the US, that's where. You got a link explaining it. READ IT.

6. I didn't say non-citizens have the "right" to vote. YOU inserted that word I didn't. I just said that they do vote. If you don't know that, you're even more naive than I thought.
EARTH TO RKM: Illegals don't care one bit about what is legal. Didn't you know ? Just about everything they do, they do illegally. Arrive here, drive here without licenses, get phony documentation, buy stolen license plates, use citizens' social security #s, collect welfare, etc. Doing things illegally happens to be their lifestyle. It's how they live.

7. Well there's more education for you. You're welcome.

Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children | Center for Immigration Studies

Please STOP "EDUCATING US THEN" because your hypocricy borders on the SICKENING....you have benefited being the son of IMMIGRANTS yet deny others......THE WORLD DOES NOT JUST STOP AT THE END OF YOUR NOSE..........Time to open wider your myopic eyes for a change...there is a Big,Happy,Positive world out there....driven too by Immigrants........Grow Up,you know not the minute nor the hour.www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr2HaEm4mJQ

 

[Unkotare]

The US has some of the largest renewable sources of fresh water in the world. The US has many untapped deposits of rare earth minerals because we stopped mining for them years ago when it became clear that it was cheaper to buy them from abroad.

Cowardly, irrational isolationists lose again.

 

[protectionist]

1. I've been educating you for a month in this thread. You just happen to be an exceedingly slow learner, that's all.

2. Our "guests"!!! Are you nuts ? I'm talking about illegal aliens. These are criminal INVADERS who ought to be shot on sight, as they climb over border fences.

3. RULE VIOLATION!! ("No Attacks on family members.")

4. How dumb does one have to be to not be able to see the similarity between temporary work visas that work short term contracts , vs legal immigrants here to become permanent American citizens? They both take jobs away from Americans. Are you getting enough sleep ? Pheeeeww!!

5. Where ? All over the US, that's where. You got a link explaining it. READ IT.

6. I didn't say non-citizens have the "right" to vote. YOU inserted that word I didn't. I just said that they do vote. If you don't know that, you're even more naive than I thought.
EARTH TO RKM: Illegals don't care one bit about what is legal. Didn't you know ? Just about everything they do, they do illegally. Arrive here, drive here without licenses, get phony documentation, buy stolen license plates, use citizens' social security #s, collect welfare, etc. Doing things illegally happens to be their lifestyle. It's how they live.

7. Well there's more education for you. You're welcome.

Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children | Center for Immigration Studies

You obviously have a reason to fear people taking your job. I guess at least you're realistic. Funny how we have become the most powerful country in the history of man by embracing capitalism and free markets, and you want to follow the templates of those we defeated down their course of protectionism and restricting access to foreign workers. It's your loser strategy.

BTW, I read RKM's post like 5 times and I saw nowhere he said anything about your family much less insulted them. Do you have drug problems as well as sniveling cowardice?

1. From RKM's Post >> "Did your parents send your college money to your grandparents or something? Is that why you hate immigrants? Cause you hate your parents?"

2. I don't fear people taking what you call "your job", because I don't HAVE a job. I'm retired, and live off Social Security + a VA pension. And you can get these too when you retire (if you're not too cowardly to join the military)

3. As for restricting access to foreign workers, our immigration law is one of the most protective law of the American people ever enacted, and for anyone to call this a "loser strategy" is tantamount to treason, in a addition to being deranged, if not bizzare.

 

[protectionist]

1. I've been educating you for a month in this thread. You just happen to be an exceedingly slow learner, that's all.

2. Our "guests"!!! Are you nuts ? I'm talking about illegal aliens. These are criminal INVADERS who ought to be shot on sight, as they climb over border fences.

3. RULE VIOLATION!! ("No Attacks on family members.")

4. How dumb does one have to be to not be able to see the similarity between temporary work visas that work short term contracts , vs legal immigrants here to become permanent American citizens? They both take jobs away from Americans. Are you getting enough sleep ? Pheeeeww!!

5. Where ? All over the US, that's where. You got a link explaining it. READ IT.

6. I didn't say non-citizens have the "right" to vote. YOU inserted that word I didn't. I just said that they do vote. If you don't know that, you're even more naive than I thought.
EARTH TO RKM: Illegals don't care one bit about what is legal. Didn't you know ? Just about everything they do, they do illegally. Arrive here, drive here without licenses, get phony documentation, buy stolen license plates, use citizens' social security #s, collect welfare, etc. Doing things illegally happens to be their lifestyle. It's how they live.

7. Well there's more education for you. You're welcome.

Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children | Center for Immigration Studies

You obviously have a reason to fear people taking your job. I guess at least you're realistic. Funny how we have become the most powerful country in the history of man by embracing capitalism and free markets, and you want to follow the templates of those we defeated down their course of protectionism and restricting access to foreign workers. It's your loser strategy.

BTW, I read RKM's post like 5 times and I saw nowhere he said anything about your family much less insulted them. Do you have drug problems as well as sniveling cowardice?

Earlier in the thread he claimed his parents were immigrants. Then later on he claimed immigrants send their money off shore and that's one of the reasons why he doesn't want immigrants. So I asked the obvious question if that's what his parents did, and if that's why he's so angry at immigrants, cause he's angry at his parents for sending money he wanted off shore. I'm not attacking his parents, quite the opposite, I'm defending legal immigrants such as his parents from him. Course now it looks like he might be backing off a bit from his earlier claim that both legal and illegal immigration is destroying this country. Really I don't get why he hates what he says his parents did. But I would be interested in learning more. He's an interesting case, don't get to talk to many unstable people in my circle.

The only instability here is the series of unfounded assumptions you keep popping up with, showing off your recklessness as a poster in a forum. In you weren't such a laughingstock whom I feel a little bit sorry for, I might really chew you up.

So OK, let's set about cleaning up this latest mess you just created.

1. I have no idea if my parents sent remittances back to their old country, or if they even had any family still there to send remittances to.

2. So this establishes that I'm not mad at them for something I know nothing about.

3. No, it does NOT look like I'm backing off from anything (except in how you seem to wish to paint it up that way)

4. I guess stable people like me, could possibly appear to be unstable, to unstable people (like you).

 

[protectionist]

ROFL... lol... ROFL...

Who the eff do you think your are deriding all of our guests because some of them have needy relatives in another country? WTF is wrong with you? Did your parents send your college money to your grandparents or something? Is that why you hate immigrants? Cause you hate your parents?

How dumb does one have to be to not be able to tell the difference between temporary work visas that work short term contracts such as the contractors that you used to pay 1099s to back in your day, vs legal immigrants here to become permanent American citizens?

1) Not even a good try at deflecting from your bull shit lies about immigrants not being consumers here in the States. Typically business owners are the ones asking for more immigrants, more cheap labor. You say I don't care about Business owners.? Where the hell did you get that idea? You're just making bull shit lies up left and right to deflect from your other bull shit lies.

2) You said "Legal immigrants collect welfare every day." Where? California? You said "They also vote, as do illegal ones." I call bull shit, show me a link where non-citizens have the right to vote.

3) You said "There IS a ceiling to the amount of work to be done." ROFL and that right there shows just how stupid you are. Where's the ceiling? Is it at 1t GDP? 10t? 100t? What forces the ceiling on GDP? Please educate us.

1. I've been educating you for a month in this thread. You just happen to be an exceedingly slow learner, that's all.

2. Our "guests"!!! Are you nuts ? I'm talking about illegal aliens. These are criminal INVADERS who ought to be shot on sight, as they climb over border fences.

3. RULE VIOLATION!! ("No Attacks on family members.")

4. How dumb does one have to be to not be able to see the similarity between temporary work visas that work short term contracts , vs legal immigrants here to become permanent American citizens? They both take jobs away from Americans. Are you getting enough sleep ? Pheeeeww!!

5. Where ? All over the US, that's where. You got a link explaining it. READ IT.

6. I didn't say non-citizens have the "right" to vote. YOU inserted that word I didn't. I just said that they do vote. If you don't know that, you're even more naive than I thought.
EARTH TO RKM: Illegals don't care one bit about what is legal. Didn't you know ? Just about everything they do, they do illegally. Arrive here, drive here without licenses, get phony documentation, buy stolen license plates, use citizens' social security #s, collect welfare, etc. Doing things illegally happens to be their lifestyle. It's how they live.

7. Well there's more education for you. You're welcome.

Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children | Center for Immigration Studies

Please STOP "EDUCATING US THEN" because your hypocricy borders on the SICKENING....you have benefited being the son of IMMIGRANTS yet deny others......THE WORLD DOES NOT JUST STOP AT THE END OF YOUR NOSE..........Time to open wider your myopic eyes for a change...there is a Big,Happy,Positive world out there....driven too by Immigrants........Grow Up,you know not the minute nor the hour.

So where do YOU fall on the VESTED INTEREST list ? Employer of immigrants for their cheap labor and willingness to accept poor working conditions ? Democrat seeking votes ? Spanish TV station owner ? Immigrant yourself ? The following multiple choice menu is available for your choosing. >>>

1. Businesses wanting cheap labor to reduce costs & boost profits.

2. Churches wanting parishoners to fill their empty pews.

3. Unions wanting members to replace their declining memberships.

4. Spanish media NEEDING Spanish-only speakers.

5. Ethnocentrist organizations wanting immigrants to multiply their race, for racist reasons (ex. La Raza- "the race")

6. Democrats seek VOTES (and get them).

7. Terrorists come in to enact terrorism (ex. the 9-11 hijackers came in on visas)

8. Anchor baby parents who become LEGALLY entitled to welfare benefits by having the pregnant woman give birth on the American side of the border. And then help themselves to a lifetime of benefits (more immigrants are receiving welfare benefits than native-born Americans).

9. Mexico - remittances$$$ from the USA are their second largest source of income (second only to their oil exports) Mexico also benefits immensely by dumping their poor people on the US, as we then stupidly pay their poverty bill for them. Other countries also benefit from remittances and poverty dumping.

10. Mexico's Reconquista of the American southwest. I take the Mexican govt at it's word when it says that is exactly its plan.
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[protectionist]

The US has some of the largest renewable sources of fresh water in the world. The US has many untapped deposits of rare earth minerals because we stopped mining for them years ago when it became clear that it was cheaper to buy them from abroad.

Both stupid irrelevancies thoroughly REFUTED in posts #s 1315, 1323, and earlier throughout the thread. Just another laughingstock post. Ho Hum. Yawn****

Dangerous dependence: US increasingly beholden to imported raw material - Energy and the Environment - AEI

Much of western US facing severe water shortage - Nation - The Boston Globe

Poll: 88 percent of Californians say there is 'a serious water shortage' in the state - San Jose Mercury News

These 11 Cities May Completely Run Out Of Water Sooner Than You Think

Water-challenged California, New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada projected to experience a population increase of more than 50 percent from 1995 to 2025. " The U.S. Bureau of the Census projects substantial population growth by 2025 in areas of the nation where demand is already stressing the water supply. This growth could threaten the water supply even further. . . . While the nation’s capacity for storing surface-water is limited and ground-water is being depleted, demands for freshwater are growing as the population increases, and pressures increase to keep water instream for fisheries, wildlife habitat, recreation, and scenic enjoyment. For example, ground-water supplies have been significantly depleted in many parts of the country, most notably in the High Plains aquifer underlying eight western states, which in some areas now holds less than half of the water held prior to commencement of ground-water pumping.

Meanwhile, according to Bureau of the Census projections, the southwestern states of California, New Mexico, Arizona, and Nevada, states that are already taxing their current water supplies, are each expected to see their population increase by more than 50 percent from 1995 to 2025. Furthermore, the potential effects of climate change create additional uncertainty about future water availability and use. For example, less snow pack as a result of climate change could harm states that rely extensively on melted snow runoff for their freshwater supply." (U.S. General Accounting Office, “Freshwater Supply: States’ Views of How Federal Agencies Could Help Them Meet the Challenges of Expected Shortages,” GAO-03-514. General Accounting Office, Washington, DC, July 2003, pp. 5, 56, 58)

 

[Unkotare]

" A 2010 U.S. Geological Survey Report estimates that known reserves of rare oxides are about 1.5 million tons, and total domestic resources might be 13 million tons. At peak 10,200 2007 U.S. consumption levels, supplies from known reserves would last nearly 150 years, and possibly more than one thousand years if other resources are explored and exploited. In addition, other friendly, stable countries like Australia and Canada have substantial rare earth deposits as well. The Australian mining company Lynas Corporation aims to annually produce 11,000 tons of rare earth oxides from its new Mount Weld mine."

China's Rare Earth Metals Monopoly Needn't Put An Electronics Stranglehold On America - Forbes

 

[Unkotare]

Countries with Largest Renewable Water Supply (Fresh) - World Top Ten


US - #4 in the world in terms of renewable fresh water supplies.

 

[protectionist]

Unlike you, I know what I'm talking about. People who work in free markets create economic value, they grow the economy. It's indisputable, I don't need to read whatever garbage you posted earlier in the thread.

And no one has an excuse to not have a job. The only reason that anyone doesn't is either they won't take a job "beneath" them or they won't clean themselves up to be presentable and work hard. That you prefer a lazy American to a working foreigner is just exactly what I expect from a coward like you.

Americans need no help from protection or immigrant fear. We will prosper and win. Well, you won't, but that's because you're a loser.

It's highly disputable, and I already disputed (and refuted ) it. So you got some pro-immigration propaganda talking points to throw around. How nice. You know what you can do with them.

How the hell would you know about not having a job ? You're a business owner. I've already posted piles of posts in this thread that have long ago refuted your inane, late-arriving BS. You just don't know any better.

And I never said I prefer a lazy anybody. And working foreigners are not as hard working as the hardest working Americans, and you can trust ME on that. I used to be one of them > 5 years as a Combat Construction Specialist (MOS 12B20) in the US Army Corps of Engineers, that if your oh so hard-working foreigners ever saw, they'd probably faint.

And you can quit the hard work foreigner routine too. Everybody knows you just want to boost your profits, by reducing your labor costs with cheap, immigrant labor, you cheap 2 bit phony.

LOL, now you're Marxist are you? You grasp this country not at all. "Profits" are economic value. That is what private companies in free markets create. And that is why the US is so wealthy, we do it very well. All wealth is created by "profits." LOL, Vladimir. You're a Marxist, xenophobic anti-capitalistic fear mongering coward who is afraid of foreigners and competition. Foreigners? Foreign companies? Competition? I love it baby, bring it on. We have NOTHING to be afraid of. We are the best. And I love this country. We even tolerate losers like you.

You can dredge up every nasty name you can think of to call me. None of that changes the OBVIOUS fact (and the more you talk, the more obvious it is), that you are just a greed freak business owner, interested in YOUR profits (forget the BS ideology rap), and maximizing them, regardless of the many harms that traitors like you impose upon the American people.
You DO NOT LOVE THIS COUNTRY. You only love yourself, and your bank account.
You are more than willing to allow Americans to suffer all the Harms of Immigration as posted in my list, so you can stuff your pockets with sellout money.
So what's the names of these 2 businesses you own, Mr. illegal alien employer ? And where are they located ? You have pictures of them you could post, along with some of your cheap, foreign workers ? Maybe you can even show us photos of their paychecks, displaying how little they make.

 

[protectionist]

Countries with Largest Renewable Water Supply (Fresh) - World Top Ten

US - #4 in the world in terms of renewable fresh water supplies.

EARTH TO UNAWARE: It wouldn't matter if the US was #1. Total units of water isn't the point. Units of water PER CAPITA is the point, and the more people we have (increasing with immigration), the LESS water we have per person. Got it ?

http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...er-shortage/0O6GjBC4qQsxSmqKXVerkM/story.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/04/water-shortage_n_4378418.html

 

[protectionist]

" A 2010 U.S. Geological Survey Report estimates that known reserves of rare oxides are about 1.5 million tons, and total domestic resources might be 13 million tons. At peak 10,200 2007 U.S. consumption levels, supplies from known reserves would last nearly 150 years, and possibly more than one thousand years if other resources are explored and exploited. In addition, other friendly, stable countries like Australia and Canada have substantial rare earth deposits as well. The Australian mining company Lynas Corporation aims to annually produce 11,000 tons of rare earth oxides from its new Mount Weld mine."

China's Rare Earth Metals Monopoly Needn't Put An Electronics Stranglehold On America - Forbes

All of which is a 100% ADMISSION FROM YOU that we of course, do indeed have a severe resource SHORTAGE, which of course is worsened by immigration and population growth in general. And Australia and Canada (especially them) are not as friendly as you might think. A simple review of the Keystone Pipeline issue can illustrate that. In fact, Canada has even been talking about discontinuing oil sales to the US and instead selling it to China.

 

[Unkotare]

" A 2010 U.S. Geological Survey Report estimates that known reserves of rare oxides are about 1.5 million tons, and total domestic resources might be 13 million tons. At peak 10,200 2007 U.S. consumption levels, supplies from known reserves would last nearly 150 years, and possibly more than one thousand years if other resources are explored and exploited. In addition, other friendly, stable countries like Australia and Canada have substantial rare earth deposits as well. The Australian mining company Lynas Corporation aims to annually produce 11,000 tons of rare earth oxides from its new Mount Weld mine."

China's Rare Earth Metals Monopoly Needn't Put An Electronics Stranglehold On America - Forbes

Yup, an awful lot of resources...water, minerals, agriculture, coal, and more than enough room to spare. We are a great nation indeed.

 

[protectionist]

" A 2010 U.S. Geological Survey Report estimates that known reserves of rare oxides are about 1.5 million tons, and total domestic resources might be 13 million tons. At peak 10,200 2007 U.S. consumption levels, supplies from known reserves would last nearly 150 years, and possibly more than one thousand years if other resources are explored and exploited. In addition, other friendly, stable countries like Australia and Canada have substantial rare earth deposits as well. The Australian mining company Lynas Corporation aims to annually produce 11,000 tons of rare earth oxides from its new Mount Weld mine."

China's Rare Earth Metals Monopoly Needn't Put An Electronics Stranglehold On America - Forbes

Yup, an awful lot of resources...water, minerals, agriculture, coal, and more than enough room to spare. We are a great nation indeed.

Total NONSENSE!!!

 

[kaz]

1. From RKM's Post >> "Did your parents send your college money to your grandparents or something? Is that why you hate immigrants? Cause you hate your parents?"

OK, I see where he insulted you, but where did he insult your parents?

2. I don't fear people taking what you call "your job", because I don't HAVE a job. I'm retired, and live off Social Security + a VA pension. And you can get these too when you retire (if you're not too cowardly to join the military)

I come from a military family. The closest are my brother who went to the naval academy and my cousin was a lifer in the Air Force, he was a dog handler for the MPs. Both were in Gulf War I. My not being in the military had nothing to do with cowardice, I'm not good at following orders. It makes me a good President of a company, but a lousy soldier. I'd have been an insubordination charge waiting to happen.

3. As for restricting access to foreign workers, our immigration law is one of the most protective law of the American people ever enacted, and for anyone to call this a "loser strategy" is tantamount to treason, in a addition to being deranged, if not bizzare.

We let illegal immigrants we let in freely to take jobs and restrict educated immigrants who can support themselves and grow the economy out. Yeah, "loser" is a great way to describe our strategy.

 

[RKMBrown]

You obviously have a reason to fear people taking your job. I guess at least you're realistic. Funny how we have become the most powerful country in the history of man by embracing capitalism and free markets, and you want to follow the templates of those we defeated down their course of protectionism and restricting access to foreign workers. It's your loser strategy.

BTW, I read RKM's post like 5 times and I saw nowhere he said anything about your family much less insulted them. Do you have drug problems as well as sniveling cowardice?

Earlier in the thread he claimed his parents were immigrants. Then later on he claimed immigrants send their money off shore and that's one of the reasons why he doesn't want immigrants. So I asked the obvious question if that's what his parents did, and if that's why he's so angry at immigrants, cause he's angry at his parents for sending money he wanted off shore. I'm not attacking his parents, quite the opposite, I'm defending legal immigrants such as his parents from him. Course now it looks like he might be backing off a bit from his earlier claim that both legal and illegal immigration is destroying this country. Really I don't get why he hates what he says his parents did. But I would be interested in learning more. He's an interesting case, don't get to talk to many unstable people in my circle.

The only instability here is the series of unfounded assumptions you keep popping up with, showing off your recklessness as a poster in a forum. In you weren't such a laughingstock whom I feel a little bit sorry for, I might really chew you up.

So OK, let's set about cleaning up this latest mess you just created.

1. I have no idea if my parents sent remittances back to their old country, or if they even had any family still there to send remittances to.

2. So this establishes that I'm not mad at them for something I know nothing about.

3. No, it does NOT look like I'm backing off from anything (except in how you seem to wish to paint it up that way)

4. I guess stable people like me, could possibly appear to be unstable, to unstable people (like you).

Thx for finally agreeing the premise of the op was a bull shit troll. You held out longer than I expected you would.