You mean real americans?
Imagining a different kind of presidency.
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You mean real americans?
Seymour Flops
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The will of the public was that five to eight thousand illegals per day be given legal status?
Billiejeens
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I do not.
Leo123
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Trump proved we didn't need a 'bill,' illegal alien crossings are almost nil today.
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Leo123
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Obama came from Marxist revolutionary money.
Leo123
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Wrong subject dufus.
Leo123
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Get rid of a felon or murderer or thief or gang banger and maybe open up jobs for Americans. Not to mention stopping the undercutting of American wages which negatively affects the economy. Biden, by not protecting US from invasion, is a traitor but then, he probably doesn't even know what his Marxist cabal handlers were doing.
So paycheck to paycheck americans are not real americans?
Lesh
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Getting rid of hard working neighbors does nothing for the average American
Lesh
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You’re insane
Leo123
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You're ignorant.
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DonGlock26
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What if, as was the case when Obama was prez, trump asked for a bipartisan group of senators to come up with an immigration reform bill reflecting the will of the public? Like this...
'Gang of Eight' unveils bipartisan immigration plan
'Gang of Eight' unveils bipartisan immigration plan
www.nbcnews.com
They came up with this....https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/guide-s744-understanding-2013-senate-immigration-bill/
A bill that passed in the Senate by a vote of 68-32. Only to be sabotaged by House Speaker John Boehner (R).
What if he had concentrated on border security instead of militarizing ICE, denying potential deportees due process, and......
AI Overview
Recent arrests and deportations by U.S. immigration authorities have drawn attention to the removal of long-time residents who are seen by their communities as "productive members of society"
. These enforcement actions have sparked debate regarding the impact on families, local economies, and communities nationwide.
Reasons for arrest and deportation
While Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) prioritizes removing those with serious criminal records, many others are also targeted for deportation, including individuals with minor offenses or no criminal convictions at all.
What if, as was the case when Biden was prez, trump sought consensus and cooperation from congressional Dem's on a number of issues in need of solutions?
- Minor criminal offenses: In August 2025, an analysis found that arrests for minor offenses like traffic violations, some from years ago, have led to deportations. In some cases, people who have served their sentences and rehabilitated their lives are still being removed.
- No criminal record: An estimated two-thirds of those deported between January and May 2025 had no criminal convictions.
- Arbitrary enforcement: According to the American Immigration Council, increased enforcement can be arbitrary and increase fear among immigrants, regardless of their status.
- Lack of due process: Some deported individuals and their families have reported being removed with no real evidence of wrongdoing or connection to gangs, relying on factors like tattoos or association with others.
When President Joe Biden held a signing ceremony for the Respect for Marriage Act at the White House this week, he took care to emphasize its bipartisan support:
He had a point: Most Republicans in the House and the Senate opposed the Respect for Marriage Act, but it nevertheless passed with a fair amount GOP support in both chambers. As we discussed soon after, the measure is part of a larger series of bipartisan wins, which includes an infrastructure package, the CHIPS and Science Act, an expansion of veterans benefits in the PACT Act, the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act — the first major legislation to address gun violence in nearly three decades — and even the Postal Service Reform Act.
Why has Biden managed to put together so many bipartisan wins?
Joe Biden has racked up more bipartisan victories than any president of either party in a generation. The tricky part is understanding why.www.msnbc.com
What if he had allowed inflation to continue its decline from 2024..........inflation declined in 2024 in the U.S., with the annual inflation rate at 2.9% at the end of 2024, down from 3.4% at the end of 2023......and not initiated a destructive trade war with allies and enemies alike based on the fallacy nations exporting goods to the US pay for the tariffs, even though they don't?
What if the agency heads he chose based their actions on science, not quackery?
Energy Secretary Attacks Offshore Wind and Dismisses Climate Change
Energy Secretary Chris Wright on Friday defended the Trump administration’s decision to block a nearly completed $6.2 billion wind farm off the coast of Rhode Island by saying offshore wind increases electricity prices and by downplaying the jobs at stake.
Energy experts accused Mr. Wright of oversimplifying the economics of offshore wind energy, noting that while it requires a significant amount of upfront capital to build a project, it was expected to create more than 55,000 jobs by the end of the decade and enough electricity to inexpensively power 22 million homes before the Trump administration took steps to throttle the nascent industry.
FACT FOCUS: A look at false and misleading claims made by RFK Jr. during Senate hearing
FACT FOCUS: A look at false and misleading claims made by RFK Jr. during Senate hearing
Kennedy was answering a question from Sen. Maggie Hassan on whether COVID-19 vaccines have saved millions of American lives.apnews.com
The irony here is for a man who craves affirmation, to an unhealthy degree I might add, it was there for the taking. Which is not to say there would not have been policy disagreements between R's and D's. But a less combative approach would not have left the country more divided than ever. It would not have caused historically dismal approval ratings. An approach that seeks conflict, not compromise, is the antithesis of unity at a time when unity is desperately needed. Unfortunately, trump 2.0 is an opportunity lost to the detriment of us all.
Nope. The American People voted for Trump to send them all back.
toobfreak
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DonGlock26
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Leo123
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Hard working illegal aliens need to go and be replaced with hard working LEGAL immigrants. You don't seem to think too deeply do you?
AZrailwhale
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The problem with that approach is the first Democratic demand is always for “comprehensive immigration reform” which always translates to amnesty without consequences. Republicans got screwed on that by Tip O’Neil who demanded amnesty first, then reneged on all the border security and employer sanctions he and the other democrats promised Reagan. To a Democrat compromise means the Republicans give fifty percent and the Democrats take fifty percent.What if, as was the case when Obama was prez, trump asked for a bipartisan group of senators to come up with an immigration reform bill reflecting the will of the public? Like this...
'Gang of Eight' unveils bipartisan immigration plan
'Gang of Eight' unveils bipartisan immigration plan
They came up with this....https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/guide-s744-understanding-2013-senate-immigration-bill/
A bill that passed in the Senate by a vote of 68-32. Only to be sabotaged by House Speaker John Boehner (R).
What if he had concentrated on border security instead of militarizing ICE, denying potential deportees due process, and......
AI Overview
Recent arrests and deportations by U.S. immigration authorities have drawn attention to the removal of long-time residents who are seen by their communities as "productive members of society"
. These enforcement actions have sparked debate regarding the impact on families, local economies, and communities nationwide.
Reasons for arrest and deportation
While Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) prioritizes removing those with serious criminal records, many others are also targeted for deportation, including individuals with minor offenses or no criminal convictions at all.
What if, as was the case when Biden was prez, trump sought consensus and cooperation from congressional Dem's on a number of issues in need of solutions?
- Minor criminal offenses: In August 2025, an analysis found that arrests for minor offenses like traffic violations, some from years ago, have led to deportations. In some cases, people who have served their sentences and rehabilitated their lives are still being removed.
- No criminal record: An estimated two-thirds of those deported between January and May 2025 had no criminal convictions.
- Arbitrary enforcement: According to the American Immigration Council, increased enforcement can be arbitrary and increase fear among immigrants, regardless of their status.
- Lack of due process: Some deported individuals and their families have reported being removed with no real evidence of wrongdoing or connection to gangs, relying on factors like tattoos or association with others.
When President Joe Biden held a signing ceremony for the Respect for Marriage Act at the White House this week, he took care to emphasize its bipartisan support:
He had a point: Most Republicans in the House and the Senate opposed the Respect for Marriage Act, but it nevertheless passed with a fair amount GOP support in both chambers. As we discussed soon after, the measure is part of a larger series of bipartisan wins, which includes an infrastructure package, the CHIPS and Science Act, an expansion of veterans benefits in the PACT Act, the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act — the first major legislation to address gun violence in nearly three decades — and even the Postal Service Reform Act.
Why has Biden managed to put together so many bipartisan wins?
Joe Biden has racked up more bipartisan victories than any president of either party in a generation. The tricky part is understanding why.
What if he had allowed inflation to continue its decline from 2024..........inflation declined in 2024 in the U.S., with the annual inflation rate at 2.9% at the end of 2024, down from 3.4% at the end of 2023......and not initiated a destructive trade war with allies and enemies alike based on the fallacy nations exporting goods to the US pay for the tariffs, even though they don't?
What if the agency heads he chose based their actions on science, not quackery?
Energy Secretary Attacks Offshore Wind and Dismisses Climate Change
Energy Secretary Chris Wright on Friday defended the Trump administration’s decision to block a nearly completed $6.2 billion wind farm off the coast of Rhode Island by saying offshore wind increases electricity prices and by downplaying the jobs at stake.
Energy experts accused Mr. Wright of oversimplifying the economics of offshore wind energy, noting that while it requires a significant amount of upfront capital to build a project, it was expected to create more than 55,000 jobs by the end of the decade and enough electricity to inexpensively power 22 million homes before the Trump administration took steps to throttle the nascent industry.
FACT FOCUS: A look at false and misleading claims made by RFK Jr. during Senate hearing
FACT FOCUS: A look at false and misleading claims made by RFK Jr. during Senate hearing
Kennedy was answering a question from Sen. Maggie Hassan on whether COVID-19 vaccines have saved millions of American lives.
The irony here is for a man who craves affirmation, to an unhealthy degree I might add, it was there for the taking. Which is not to say there would not have been policy disagreements between R's and D's. But a less combative approach would not have left the country more divided than ever. It would not have caused historically dismal approval ratings. An approach that seeks conflict, not compromise, is the antithesis of unity at a time when unity is desperately needed. Unfortunately, trump 2.0 is an opportunity lost to the detriment of us all.
toobfreak
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They just cannot accept that the American people were given a free choice.
Democrats can only win via lies, cheating or coercion.
AZrailwhale
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Just because the main focus is on deporting criminal illegal aliens, it doesn’t mean any other illegal aliens contacted in the pursuit of the criminals should or will be ignored. They are all here illegally and subject to deportation. Creating a “climate of fear” among illegal aliens is a good thing, make them uncertain enough about being found and most will self-deport rather than live with the fear and uncertainty of deportation at any moment.What if, as was the case when Obama was prez, trump asked for a bipartisan group of senators to come up with an immigration reform bill reflecting the will of the public? Like this...
'Gang of Eight' unveils bipartisan immigration plan
'Gang of Eight' unveils bipartisan immigration plan
They came up with this....https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/guide-s744-understanding-2013-senate-immigration-bill/
A bill that passed in the Senate by a vote of 68-32. Only to be sabotaged by House Speaker John Boehner (R).
What if he had concentrated on border security instead of militarizing ICE, denying potential deportees due process, and......
AI Overview
Recent arrests and deportations by U.S. immigration authorities have drawn attention to the removal of long-time residents who are seen by their communities as "productive members of society"
. These enforcement actions have sparked debate regarding the impact on families, local economies, and communities nationwide.
Reasons for arrest and deportation
While Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) prioritizes removing those with serious criminal records, many others are also targeted for deportation, including individuals with minor offenses or no criminal convictions at all.
What if, as was the case when Biden was prez, trump sought consensus and cooperation from congressional Dem's on a number of issues in need of solutions?
- Minor criminal offenses: In August 2025, an analysis found that arrests for minor offenses like traffic violations, some from years ago, have led to deportations. In some cases, people who have served their sentences and rehabilitated their lives are still being removed.
- No criminal record: An estimated two-thirds of those deported between January and May 2025 had no criminal convictions.
- Arbitrary enforcement: According to the American Immigration Council, increased enforcement can be arbitrary and increase fear among immigrants, regardless of their status.
- Lack of due process: Some deported individuals and their families have reported being removed with no real evidence of wrongdoing or connection to gangs, relying on factors like tattoos or association with others.
When President Joe Biden held a signing ceremony for the Respect for Marriage Act at the White House this week, he took care to emphasize its bipartisan support:
He had a point: Most Republicans in the House and the Senate opposed the Respect for Marriage Act, but it nevertheless passed with a fair amount GOP support in both chambers. As we discussed soon after, the measure is part of a larger series of bipartisan wins, which includes an infrastructure package, the CHIPS and Science Act, an expansion of veterans benefits in the PACT Act, the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act — the first major legislation to address gun violence in nearly three decades — and even the Postal Service Reform Act.
Why has Biden managed to put together so many bipartisan wins?
Joe Biden has racked up more bipartisan victories than any president of either party in a generation. The tricky part is understanding why.
What if he had allowed inflation to continue its decline from 2024..........inflation declined in 2024 in the U.S., with the annual inflation rate at 2.9% at the end of 2024, down from 3.4% at the end of 2023......and not initiated a destructive trade war with allies and enemies alike based on the fallacy nations exporting goods to the US pay for the tariffs, even though they don't?
What if the agency heads he chose based their actions on science, not quackery?
Energy Secretary Attacks Offshore Wind and Dismisses Climate Change
Energy Secretary Chris Wright on Friday defended the Trump administration’s decision to block a nearly completed $6.2 billion wind farm off the coast of Rhode Island by saying offshore wind increases electricity prices and by downplaying the jobs at stake.
Energy experts accused Mr. Wright of oversimplifying the economics of offshore wind energy, noting that while it requires a significant amount of upfront capital to build a project, it was expected to create more than 55,000 jobs by the end of the decade and enough electricity to inexpensively power 22 million homes before the Trump administration took steps to throttle the nascent industry.
FACT FOCUS: A look at false and misleading claims made by RFK Jr. during Senate hearing
FACT FOCUS: A look at false and misleading claims made by RFK Jr. during Senate hearing
Kennedy was answering a question from Sen. Maggie Hassan on whether COVID-19 vaccines have saved millions of American lives.
The irony here is for a man who craves affirmation, to an unhealthy degree I might add, it was there for the taking. Which is not to say there would not have been policy disagreements between R's and D's. But a less combative approach would not have left the country more divided than ever. It would not have caused historically dismal approval ratings. An approach that seeks conflict, not compromise, is the antithesis of unity at a time when unity is desperately needed. Unfortunately, trump 2.0 is an opportunity lost to the detriment of us all.
AZrailwhale
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Obama was upper middle class. That is “coming from money” in my opinion.
AZrailwhale
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I see prices dropping and inflation is down despite the Fed being obstructive.
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