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What if, as was the case when Obama was prez, trump asked for a bipartisan group of senators to come up with an immigration reform bill reflecting the will of the public? Like this...

'Gang of Eight' unveils bipartisan immigration plan​


They came up with this....https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/guide-s744-understanding-2013-senate-immigration-bill/
A bill that passed in the Senate by a vote of 68-32. Only to be sabotaged by House Speaker John Boehner (R).

What if he had concentrated on border security instead of militarizing ICE, denying potential deportees due process, and......

AI Overview

Recent arrests and deportations by U.S. immigration authorities have drawn attention to the removal of long-time residents who are seen by their communities as "productive members of society"
. These enforcement actions have sparked debate regarding the impact on families, local economies, and communities nationwide.
Reasons for arrest and deportation
While Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) prioritizes removing those with serious criminal records, many others are also targeted for deportation, including individuals with minor offenses or no criminal convictions at all.

  • Minor criminal offenses: In August 2025, an analysis found that arrests for minor offenses like traffic violations, some from years ago, have led to deportations. In some cases, people who have served their sentences and rehabilitated their lives are still being removed.
  • No criminal record: An estimated two-thirds of those deported between January and May 2025 had no criminal convictions.
  • Arbitrary enforcement: According to the American Immigration Council, increased enforcement can be arbitrary and increase fear among immigrants, regardless of their status.
  • Lack of due process: Some deported individuals and their families have reported being removed with no real evidence of wrongdoing or connection to gangs, relying on factors like tattoos or association with others.
What if, as was the case when Biden was prez, trump sought consensus and cooperation from congressional Dem's on a number of issues in need of solutions?

When President Joe Biden held a signing ceremony for the Respect for Marriage Act at the White House this week, he took care to emphasize its bipartisan support:

“Let us think about today: December 13, 2022, a day when, thanks to Democrats and Republicans, we finally protect marriage rights in federal law.”


He had a point: Most Republicans in the House and the Senate opposed the Respect for Marriage Act, but it nevertheless passed with a fair amount GOP support in both chambers. As we discussed soon after, the measure is part of a larger series of bipartisan wins, which includes an infrastructure package, the CHIPS and Science Act, an expansion of veterans benefits in the PACT Act, the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act — the first major legislation to address gun violence in nearly three decades — and even the Postal Service Reform Act.

What if he had allowed inflation to continue its decline from 2024..........inflation declined in 2024 in the U.S., with the annual inflation rate at 2.9% at the end of 2024, down from 3.4% at the end of 2023......and not initiated a destructive trade war with allies and enemies alike based on the fallacy nations exporting goods to the US pay for the tariffs, even though they don't?

What if the agency heads he chose based their actions on science, not quackery?

Energy Secretary Attacks Offshore Wind and Dismisses Climate Change​

Energy Secretary Chris Wright on Friday defended the Trump administration’s decision to block a nearly completed $6.2 billion wind farm off the coast of Rhode Island by saying offshore wind increases electricity prices and by downplaying the jobs at stake.

Energy experts accused Mr. Wright of oversimplifying the economics of offshore wind energy, noting that while it requires a significant amount of upfront capital to build a project, it was expected to create more than 55,000 jobs by the end of the decade and enough electricity to inexpensively power 22 million homes before the Trump administration took steps to throttle the nascent industry.

FACT FOCUS: A look at false and misleading claims made by RFK Jr. during Senate hearing​


The irony here is for a man who craves affirmation, to an unhealthy degree I might add, it was there for the taking. Which is not to say there would not have been policy disagreements between R's and D's. But a less combative approach would not have left the country more divided than ever. It would not have caused historically dismal approval ratings. An approach that seeks conflict, not compromise, is the antithesis of unity at a time when unity is desperately needed. Unfortunately, trump 2.0 is an opportunity lost to the detriment of us all.
 
trump would have gone gaga over this part of the 2013 reform bill.

What are the Southern Border Fencing Strategy, Comprehensive Southern Border Security Strategy, and Southern Border Security Commission?

The bill requires that the Secretary of Homeland Security submit within 180 days of enactment of the bill a Southern Border Fencing Strategy that will identify where 700 miles of fencing, double fencing, infrastructure, and technology should be deployed. The Secretary must also produce a Comprehensive Southern Border Security Strategy within 180 days that will establish “effective control” of the border, which is defined as persistent surveillance of 100 percent of the border and a 90 percent effectiveness rate in preventing illegal crossings. The bill mandates the creation of a bipartisan Southern Border Security Commission that will be responsible for making recommendations and spending additional funds in order to achieve border-security goals if the Secretary of Homeland Security cannot certify “effective control” of all border sectors for at least 1 fiscal year within 5 years of enactment.
 
Mass deportations. An end to the climate change his. An end to vaccine tyranny. These are all things Trump was hired to do.
Polls indicate the majority does not favor mass deportations, does not agree with trump's climate change denial, does not agree with RFK's vaccine policy.

You may have hired him to do those things but the majority of voters didn't.

Surge in U.S. Concern About Immigration Has Abated​


My guess is one reason concern has abated is the public isn't being bombarded by a deluge of lies about immigration any longer. Also, because they see first hand what Don's policies are all about.
 
Polls indicate the majority does not favor mass deportations, does not agree with trump's climate change denial, does not agree with RFK's vaccine policy.

You may have hired him to do those things but the majority of voters didn't.
Democrat polls are lying. Just like always. Democrats lie about everything. Hillary has a 96 point lead against Trump. That was a lie and democrats haven't stopped yet.
 
I can imagine an average person, a paycheck to paycheck worker, rising up to be the potus someday. That would be truly amazing. Will it ever happen?
 
I can imagine an average person, a paycheck to paycheck worker, rising up to be the potus someday. That would be truly amazing. Will it ever happen?
Obama didn't come from money.
 
What if, as was the case when Obama was prez, trump asked for a bipartisan group of senators to come up with an immigration reform bill reflecting the will of the public? Like this...

'Gang of Eight' unveils bipartisan immigration plan​


They came up with this....https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/guide-s744-understanding-2013-senate-immigration-bill/
A bill that passed in the Senate by a vote of 68-32. Only to be sabotaged by House Speaker John Boehner (R).

What if he had concentrated on border security instead of militarizing ICE, denying potential deportees due process, and......

AI Overview

Recent arrests and deportations by U.S. immigration authorities have drawn attention to the removal of long-time residents who are seen by their communities as "productive members of society"
. These enforcement actions have sparked debate regarding the impact on families, local economies, and communities nationwide.
Reasons for arrest and deportation
While Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) prioritizes removing those with serious criminal records, many others are also targeted for deportation, including individuals with minor offenses or no criminal convictions at all.

  • Minor criminal offenses: In August 2025, an analysis found that arrests for minor offenses like traffic violations, some from years ago, have led to deportations. In some cases, people who have served their sentences and rehabilitated their lives are still being removed.
  • No criminal record: An estimated two-thirds of those deported between January and May 2025 had no criminal convictions.
  • Arbitrary enforcement: According to the American Immigration Council, increased enforcement can be arbitrary and increase fear among immigrants, regardless of their status.
  • Lack of due process: Some deported individuals and their families have reported being removed with no real evidence of wrongdoing or connection to gangs, relying on factors like tattoos or association with others.
What if, as was the case when Biden was prez, trump sought consensus and cooperation from congressional Dem's on a number of issues in need of solutions?

When President Joe Biden held a signing ceremony for the Respect for Marriage Act at the White House this week, he took care to emphasize its bipartisan support:


He had a point: Most Republicans in the House and the Senate opposed the Respect for Marriage Act, but it nevertheless passed with a fair amount GOP support in both chambers. As we discussed soon after, the measure is part of a larger series of bipartisan wins, which includes an infrastructure package, the CHIPS and Science Act, an expansion of veterans benefits in the PACT Act, the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act — the first major legislation to address gun violence in nearly three decades — and even the Postal Service Reform Act.


What if he had allowed inflation to continue its decline from 2024..........inflation declined in 2024 in the U.S., with the annual inflation rate at 2.9% at the end of 2024, down from 3.4% at the end of 2023......and not initiated a destructive trade war with allies and enemies alike based on the fallacy nations exporting goods to the US pay for the tariffs, even though they don't?

What if the agency heads he chose based their actions on science, not quackery?

Energy Secretary Attacks Offshore Wind and Dismisses Climate Change​

Energy Secretary Chris Wright on Friday defended the Trump administration’s decision to block a nearly completed $6.2 billion wind farm off the coast of Rhode Island by saying offshore wind increases electricity prices and by downplaying the jobs at stake.

Energy experts accused Mr. Wright of oversimplifying the economics of offshore wind energy, noting that while it requires a significant amount of upfront capital to build a project, it was expected to create more than 55,000 jobs by the end of the decade and enough electricity to inexpensively power 22 million homes before the Trump administration took steps to throttle the nascent industry.

FACT FOCUS: A look at false and misleading claims made by RFK Jr. during Senate hearing​


The irony here is for a man who craves affirmation, to an unhealthy degree I might add, it was there for the taking. Which is not to say there would not have been policy disagreements between R's and D's. But a less combative approach would not have left the country more divided than ever. It would not have caused historically dismal approval ratings. An approach that seeks conflict, not compromise, is the antithesis of unity at a time when unity is desperately needed. Unfortunately, trump 2.0 is an opportunity lost to the detriment of us all.
Voters gave their consensus last November.
 
What if, as was the case when Obama was prez, trump asked for a bipartisan group of senators to come up with an immigration reform bill reflecting the will of the public? Like this...

'Gang of Eight' unveils bipartisan immigration plan​


They came up with this....https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/guide-s744-understanding-2013-senate-immigration-bill/
A bill that passed in the Senate by a vote of 68-32. Only to be sabotaged by House Speaker John Boehner (R).

What if he had concentrated on border security instead of militarizing ICE, denying potential deportees due process, and......

AI Overview

Recent arrests and deportations by U.S. immigration authorities have drawn attention to the removal of long-time residents who are seen by their communities as "productive members of society"
. These enforcement actions have sparked debate regarding the impact on families, local economies, and communities nationwide.
Reasons for arrest and deportation
While Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) prioritizes removing those with serious criminal records, many others are also targeted for deportation, including individuals with minor offenses or no criminal convictions at all.

  • Minor criminal offenses: In August 2025, an analysis found that arrests for minor offenses like traffic violations, some from years ago, have led to deportations. In some cases, people who have served their sentences and rehabilitated their lives are still being removed.
  • No criminal record: An estimated two-thirds of those deported between January and May 2025 had no criminal convictions.
  • Arbitrary enforcement: According to the American Immigration Council, increased enforcement can be arbitrary and increase fear among immigrants, regardless of their status.
  • Lack of due process: Some deported individuals and their families have reported being removed with no real evidence of wrongdoing or connection to gangs, relying on factors like tattoos or association with others.
What if, as was the case when Biden was prez, trump sought consensus and cooperation from congressional Dem's on a number of issues in need of solutions?

When President Joe Biden held a signing ceremony for the Respect for Marriage Act at the White House this week, he took care to emphasize its bipartisan support:


He had a point: Most Republicans in the House and the Senate opposed the Respect for Marriage Act, but it nevertheless passed with a fair amount GOP support in both chambers. As we discussed soon after, the measure is part of a larger series of bipartisan wins, which includes an infrastructure package, the CHIPS and Science Act, an expansion of veterans benefits in the PACT Act, the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act — the first major legislation to address gun violence in nearly three decades — and even the Postal Service Reform Act.


What if he had allowed inflation to continue its decline from 2024..........inflation declined in 2024 in the U.S., with the annual inflation rate at 2.9% at the end of 2024, down from 3.4% at the end of 2023......and not initiated a destructive trade war with allies and enemies alike based on the fallacy nations exporting goods to the US pay for the tariffs, even though they don't?

What if the agency heads he chose based their actions on science, not quackery?

Energy Secretary Attacks Offshore Wind and Dismisses Climate Change​

Energy Secretary Chris Wright on Friday defended the Trump administration’s decision to block a nearly completed $6.2 billion wind farm off the coast of Rhode Island by saying offshore wind increases electricity prices and by downplaying the jobs at stake.

Energy experts accused Mr. Wright of oversimplifying the economics of offshore wind energy, noting that while it requires a significant amount of upfront capital to build a project, it was expected to create more than 55,000 jobs by the end of the decade and enough electricity to inexpensively power 22 million homes before the Trump administration took steps to throttle the nascent industry.

FACT FOCUS: A look at false and misleading claims made by RFK Jr. during Senate hearing​


The irony here is for a man who craves affirmation, to an unhealthy degree I might add, it was there for the taking. Which is not to say there would not have been policy disagreements between R's and D's. But a less combative approach would not have left the country more divided than ever. It would not have caused historically dismal approval ratings. An approach that seeks conflict, not compromise, is the antithesis of unity at a time when unity is desperately needed. Unfortunately, trump 2.0 is an opportunity lost to the detriment of us all.
The Gang of Eight bill failed because it gave illegals everythin while getting nothing in return

And now trump has raised the bar way above what tepubs were willing to consider in 2013

There may be some illegals who are allowed to remain in the US

But NO blanket amnesty and no citizenship EVER

Just a green card of permanent residence
 
The Gang of Eight bill failed because it gave illegals everythin while getting nothing in return

And now trump has raised the bar way above what tepubs were willing to consider in 2013

There may be some illegals who are allowed to remain in the US

But NO blanket amnesty and no citizenship EVER

Just a green card of permanent residence
All of ICE efforts and deportations will be for nothing if Americans don't hold their traitors accountable in Nuremberg 2.0.

Democrats = traitors
 
What if, as was the case when Biden was prez, trump sought consensus and cooperation from congressional Dem's on a number of issues in need of solutions?
Trump is incapable of consensus and cooperation because he’s a fascist thug and authoritarian despot – it’s one of countless reasons why Trump is unfit to be president.
 
What if, as was the case when Obama was prez, trump asked for a bipartisan group of senators to come up with an immigration reform bill reflecting the will of the public? Like this...

'Gang of Eight' unveils bipartisan immigration plan​


They came up with this....https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/guide-s744-understanding-2013-senate-immigration-bill/
A bill that passed in the Senate by a vote of 68-32. Only to be sabotaged by House Speaker John Boehner (R).

What if he had concentrated on border security instead of militarizing ICE, denying potential deportees due process, and......

AI Overview

Recent arrests and deportations by U.S. immigration authorities have drawn attention to the removal of long-time residents who are seen by their communities as "productive members of society"
. These enforcement actions have sparked debate regarding the impact on families, local economies, and communities nationwide.
Reasons for arrest and deportation
While Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) prioritizes removing those with serious criminal records, many others are also targeted for deportation, including individuals with minor offenses or no criminal convictions at all.

  • Minor criminal offenses: In August 2025, an analysis found that arrests for minor offenses like traffic violations, some from years ago, have led to deportations. In some cases, people who have served their sentences and rehabilitated their lives are still being removed.
  • No criminal record: An estimated two-thirds of those deported between January and May 2025 had no criminal convictions.
  • Arbitrary enforcement: According to the American Immigration Council, increased enforcement can be arbitrary and increase fear among immigrants, regardless of their status.
  • Lack of due process: Some deported individuals and their families have reported being removed with no real evidence of wrongdoing or connection to gangs, relying on factors like tattoos or association with others.
What if, as was the case when Biden was prez, trump sought consensus and cooperation from congressional Dem's on a number of issues in need of solutions?

When President Joe Biden held a signing ceremony for the Respect for Marriage Act at the White House this week, he took care to emphasize its bipartisan support:


He had a point: Most Republicans in the House and the Senate opposed the Respect for Marriage Act, but it nevertheless passed with a fair amount GOP support in both chambers. As we discussed soon after, the measure is part of a larger series of bipartisan wins, which includes an infrastructure package, the CHIPS and Science Act, an expansion of veterans benefits in the PACT Act, the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act — the first major legislation to address gun violence in nearly three decades — and even the Postal Service Reform Act.


What if he had allowed inflation to continue its decline from 2024..........inflation declined in 2024 in the U.S., with the annual inflation rate at 2.9% at the end of 2024, down from 3.4% at the end of 2023......and not initiated a destructive trade war with allies and enemies alike based on the fallacy nations exporting goods to the US pay for the tariffs, even though they don't?

What if the agency heads he chose based their actions on science, not quackery?

Energy Secretary Attacks Offshore Wind and Dismisses Climate Change​

Energy Secretary Chris Wright on Friday defended the Trump administration’s decision to block a nearly completed $6.2 billion wind farm off the coast of Rhode Island by saying offshore wind increases electricity prices and by downplaying the jobs at stake.

Energy experts accused Mr. Wright of oversimplifying the economics of offshore wind energy, noting that while it requires a significant amount of upfront capital to build a project, it was expected to create more than 55,000 jobs by the end of the decade and enough electricity to inexpensively power 22 million homes before the Trump administration took steps to throttle the nascent industry.

FACT FOCUS: A look at false and misleading claims made by RFK Jr. during Senate hearing​


The irony here is for a man who craves affirmation, to an unhealthy degree I might add, it was there for the taking. Which is not to say there would not have been policy disagreements between R's and D's. But a less combative approach would not have left the country more divided than ever. It would not have caused historically dismal approval ratings. An approach that seeks conflict, not compromise, is the antithesis of unity at a time when unity is desperately needed. Unfortunately, trump 2.0 is an opportunity lost to the detriment of us all.
You should have thought of all that when the Autopen Administration was opening the floodgates, allowing the cartels to control the border, and coming up with a "bipartisan bill" that allowed "only" 5,000 illegals per day to be given legal status.

Now that Trump has stopped the flow, and is reducing the number of alien criminals,* you want to compromise?

*Entering the country illegally is a crime. Aliens who do it are criminals, regardless of how many or how few other crimes they commit.

Should unlawfully accepting government benefits by an illegal be deprtable?
 
What if, as was the case when Obama was prez, trump asked for a bipartisan group of senators to come up with an immigration reform bill reflecting the will of the public? Like this...

'Gang of Eight' unveils bipartisan immigration plan​


They came up with this....https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/report/guide-s744-understanding-2013-senate-immigration-bill/
A bill that passed in the Senate by a vote of 68-32. Only to be sabotaged by House Speaker John Boehner (R).

What if he had concentrated on border security instead of militarizing ICE, denying potential deportees due process, and......

AI Overview

Recent arrests and deportations by U.S. immigration authorities have drawn attention to the removal of long-time residents who are seen by their communities as "productive members of society"
. These enforcement actions have sparked debate regarding the impact on families, local economies, and communities nationwide.
Reasons for arrest and deportation
While Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) prioritizes removing those with serious criminal records, many others are also targeted for deportation, including individuals with minor offenses or no criminal convictions at all.

  • Minor criminal offenses: In August 2025, an analysis found that arrests for minor offenses like traffic violations, some from years ago, have led to deportations. In some cases, people who have served their sentences and rehabilitated their lives are still being removed.
  • No criminal record: An estimated two-thirds of those deported between January and May 2025 had no criminal convictions.
  • Arbitrary enforcement: According to the American Immigration Council, increased enforcement can be arbitrary and increase fear among immigrants, regardless of their status.
  • Lack of due process: Some deported individuals and their families have reported being removed with no real evidence of wrongdoing or connection to gangs, relying on factors like tattoos or association with others.
What if, as was the case when Biden was prez, trump sought consensus and cooperation from congressional Dem's on a number of issues in need of solutions?

When President Joe Biden held a signing ceremony for the Respect for Marriage Act at the White House this week, he took care to emphasize its bipartisan support:


He had a point: Most Republicans in the House and the Senate opposed the Respect for Marriage Act, but it nevertheless passed with a fair amount GOP support in both chambers. As we discussed soon after, the measure is part of a larger series of bipartisan wins, which includes an infrastructure package, the CHIPS and Science Act, an expansion of veterans benefits in the PACT Act, the Bipartisan Safer Communities Act — the first major legislation to address gun violence in nearly three decades — and even the Postal Service Reform Act.


What if he had allowed inflation to continue its decline from 2024..........inflation declined in 2024 in the U.S., with the annual inflation rate at 2.9% at the end of 2024, down from 3.4% at the end of 2023......and not initiated a destructive trade war with allies and enemies alike based on the fallacy nations exporting goods to the US pay for the tariffs, even though they don't?

What if the agency heads he chose based their actions on science, not quackery?

Energy Secretary Attacks Offshore Wind and Dismisses Climate Change​

Energy Secretary Chris Wright on Friday defended the Trump administration’s decision to block a nearly completed $6.2 billion wind farm off the coast of Rhode Island by saying offshore wind increases electricity prices and by downplaying the jobs at stake.

Energy experts accused Mr. Wright of oversimplifying the economics of offshore wind energy, noting that while it requires a significant amount of upfront capital to build a project, it was expected to create more than 55,000 jobs by the end of the decade and enough electricity to inexpensively power 22 million homes before the Trump administration took steps to throttle the nascent industry.

FACT FOCUS: A look at false and misleading claims made by RFK Jr. during Senate hearing​


The irony here is for a man who craves affirmation, to an unhealthy degree I might add, it was there for the taking. Which is not to say there would not have been policy disagreements between R's and D's. But a less combative approach would not have left the country more divided than ever. It would not have caused historically dismal approval ratings. An approach that seeks conflict, not compromise, is the antithesis of unity at a time when unity is desperately needed. Unfortunately, trump 2.0 is an opportunity lost to the detriment of us all.

Minor criminal offenses: In August 2025, an analysis found that arrests for minor offenses like traffic violations, some from years ago, have led to deportations.

I agree, any interaction with the government by an illegal alien should lead to deportation.
 
Polls indicate the majority does not favor mass deportations, does not agree with trump's climate change denial, does not agree with RFK's vaccine policy.

You may have hired him to do those things but the majority of voters didn't.

Surge in U.S. Concern About Immigration Has Abated​


My guess is one reason concern has abated is the public isn't being bombarded by a deluge of lies about immigration any longer. Also, because they see first hand what Don's policies are all about.

Polls indicate the majority does not favor mass deportations

Illegal aliens are also against mass deportations.

My guess is one reason concern has abated is the public isn't being bombarded by a deluge of lies about immigration any longer.

Obviously. No more Biden lies about the border being secure.
 
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Mass deportations. An end to the climate change his. An end to vaccine tyranny. These are all things Trump was hired to do.
Only on your fetid mind. He was actually “hired” to bring down prices and inflation

How’s that going?
 
Minor criminal offenses: In August 2025, an analysis found that arrests for minor offenses like traffic violations, some from years ago, have led to deportations.

I agree, any interaction with the government by an illegal alien should lead to deportation.
What does that do for the average person?
 
What if, as was the case when Obama was prez, trump asked for a bipartisan group of senators to come up with an immigration reform bill reflecting the will of the public? Like this...
There is nothing wrong with the immigration system. Zero. As Trump has shown, it's simply a matter of enforcing the existing laws.
 
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