Illinois Woman Born To American Father Told She Is No Longer an American

[US Army Retired]

What's going on here? They're (US State Department) saying to this woman if you're born over seas to a American born in America, you're not a natural born citizen.

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For years she, and the U.S. government, thought the Bulgarian-born 34-year-old was an American citizen. But, when she went to renew her passport in 2003, the State Department reportedly told her something terribly different.

Boneva's father was born in Indiana, and the consulate in Bulgaria gave her U.S. citizenship while she was growing up in the country in 1981. She was able to visit relatives in Chicago and eventually move to the area in 1997, the Chicago Tribune reported.

Then in 2003, the married mother of a now 7-year-old U.S.-born boy received a letter from the U.S. State Department saying there was a mistake and she wasn't an American citizen, according to the Tribune.

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[TheSuaveOne]

Probably a mix up that will eventually be corrected.

-TSO

 

[US Army Retired]

But I thougt paperwork didn't matter. According to some if you're born to a American anywhere in the world then you are also a American.

 

[chanel]

Probably a mix up that will eventually be corrected.

-TSO

You are probably right. I read the article and it said something about five years vs. ten years, etc. but I'm glad she's getting some publicity. That should help.

 

[TheSuaveOne]

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

• Anyone born inside the United States *
• Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
• Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
• Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
• Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
• Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
• Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
• A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

-TSO

 

[US Army Retired]

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

• Anyone born inside the United States *
• Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
• Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
• Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
• Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
• Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
• Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
• A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

-TSO

So is she a natural born citizen?

 

[chanel]

No. She was born in Bulgaria. It looks like she didn't move here til 1997.

Boneva's father was born in Indiana, and the consulate in Bulgaria gave her U.S. citizenship while she was growing up in the country in 1981. She was able to visit relatives in Chicago and eventually move to the area in 1997, the Chicago Tribune reported.

The State Department said in the letter that an employee at the consulate broke a rule that required her father to have lived in the U.S. for 10 years before she was born, the Tribune reported. Her father had only lived in the U.S. for six years before moving to Bulgaria.

The letter also pointed out that that requirement changed in 1986 to five years, meaning that someone in the Boneva's position today would be eligible for U.S. citizenship, but she isn't.

 

[William Joyce]

All she has to do is sneak over the Mexican border, put on fake tan lotion and join "La Raza". Obama will grant her instant citizenship.

 

[US Army Retired]

But I thougt paperwork didn't matter. According to some if you're born to a American anywhere in the world then you are also a American.

She is American, you birther nutcase.

Now stop pretending you were ever in the military.

According to the state department she is NOT a American even though she was born to a American Daddy. Read the article.

 

[Lost Soul]

But I thougt paperwork didn't matter. According to some if you're born to a American anywhere in the world then you are also a American.

My sister was born in Scotland while my father was stationed at Holy Loch. She never had a single problem.

 

[Intense]

If They previously acknowledged Her Citizenship, and now deny it, the only thing she needs is a good Lawyer and a Jury that has had enough with Double Speak.

 

[Baruch Menachem]

Someone in the state department will have to sit through a lecture on that law, her situation will be fixed, and we will move on.

Of course, that is the benefit of having a lawyer. He shows up at the State department along with his briefcase and the law at hand and a list of penalties for breach, and things are fixed to everyone's satisfaction in short order.


And that is the benefit of a free press as well. Some low level beaurocrat makes a huge mistake and the paper finds out about it, suddenly the whole light of the universe is shown on that department, and the people who would never take her phone calls or bother to read her letter of complaint fall all over themselves to fix the matter.

She should have her apology Real Soon Now.

 

[xsited1]

Illinois Woman Born To American Father Told She Is No Longer an American

Will she still be able to run for President in 2012?

 

[Missourian]

Illinois Woman Born To American Father Told She Is No Longer an American

Will she still be able to run for President in 2012?

So sorry...you have to be in the running BEFORE it is revealed you may not be an American citizen.

 

[Charles Stucker]

This is a pretty clear case of something President Obama or SecState Hillary should clear up immediately with a fiat order that the woman is a citizen. Just as soon as they verify the facts in the news story/

 

[beowolfe]

It depends on the law at the time she was born. It may turn out that she is NOT a US citizen acccording to the law.

 

[beowolfe]

This is a pretty clear case of something President Obama or SecState Hillary should clear up immediately with a fiat order that the woman is a citizen. Just as soon as they verify the facts in the news story/

This is not an issue for the POTUS or the SOS to 'clear up'. This is an issue for the courts to clear up.

 

[Gunny]

Y'all will find the pissing contest here.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/the-flame-zone/105039-jillian-lost-soul.html

Keep it out of this thread please. Thank you.

 

[Care4all]

What's going on here? They're (US State Department) saying to this woman if you're born over seas to a American born in America, you're not a natural born citizen.

Illinois Woman Told She Is No Longer an American - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com
Immigrant fears losing citizenship - chicagotribune.com

For years she, and the U.S. government, thought the Bulgarian-born 34-year-old was an American citizen. But, when she went to renew her passport in 2003, the State Department reportedly told her something terribly different.

Boneva's father was born in Indiana, and the consulate in Bulgaria gave her U.S. citizenship while she was growing up in the country in 1981. She was able to visit relatives in Chicago and eventually move to the area in 1997, the Chicago Tribune reported.

Then in 2003, the married mother of a now 7-year-old U.S.-born boy received a letter from the U.S. State Department saying there was a mistake and she wasn't an American citizen, according to the Tribune.

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Hymmmm...Obama's mother was not only born in the united states, she lived her entire life in the united states....before obama's birth... she was in college until June of the year he was born, and so was his father..... he was born that august, his birth certificate was filed with the Hawaii Health Department of Vital Statistics 3 days after his birth, the local news papers, 2 of them in Honolulu ran information articles of who was born, married or died produced and paid for by the State of Hawaii Health Bureau every sunday in their local papers....which announced Obama's birth along with all other babies born in Hawaii that week....

His Father began a new school year in the united states at University one month after he was born....and continued to go to university in the USA for another 3-5 years after obama was born...his mother sat back one semester and then went back to school the following January....

WHEN EXACTLY did his mother have allegiance to another country or live in another country?

You birthers have just LOST YOUR MINDS and can't decipher the very things right in front of your eyes, that shows Obama's citizenship....

your avatar says you were in Hawaii...if you were born there....how about requesting a copy of your birth certificate from vital statistics and show us, what it looks like and if any different than obama's...? you can black out the pertinent/private info, like your name and the such before you scan it in!