Illegals are the future of democrat party power

[BrokeLoser]

Only citizens vote

How much support can they expect from people who cannot legally vote and are likely to be deported sooner or later? Even if somehow all these people were granted citizenship, there is no reason to believe enough of them would vote democrat (or at all) to make a difference.

In my state, you have to prove citizenship to get a driver's license, so we know you are lying.

I can't understand why you obsess over this bullshit claim, increased immigration increases crime. It doesn't, for decades, DECADES, studies have consistently shown that the connection between immigration and crime is INVERSELY related. More immigrants, less crime.

Come on, what city has the smallest percentage of immigrants in the country, among major cities--Montgomery, Alabama. Homicide rate, 34.6 per 100,000. New York City, the highest percentage of immigrant population in the country, homicide rate 4.1 per 100,000.

More immigration equals less crime. Just a quick run through AI.

Data from 1980 to 2022 shows that the immigrant share of the U.S. population more than doubled. Over the same period, the total U.S. crime rate dropped by 60%, with violent and property crimes also seeing significant declines.

That even holds true for undocumented immigrants. They are half as likely to be arrested for property and violent crimes as American citizens. This whole replacement theory, immigrants commit crime, eat our pets. Shit is old as this country itself and been proven wrong time and time again. They called it the "Know Nothing" party for a reason.

I realize I live in a unique area with a large immigrant population, many probably undocumented. But many, also multi-generational at this point. Romanian, Hmong. Colombians go all the way back to the 70's, and yes, they were drug smugglers. Venezuela, that is where all the race teams go to when hiring their "cowboy"--all the team owners raise horses, someone has got to run the show, that is the cowboy.

Russian, not really sure why they are here. Seems connected to the automotive industry. German, what remains of the once provider of all that factory equipment, hosiery and furniture mills. Almost always German machines. And go figure, ever owned a German car? Got to have a damn German to work on them.

But then the Hispanic agricultural work force. It is huge around here. I mean sitting right here, less than two miles north, maybe four miles east, food trucks, parked in a parking lot, Mexican street food. Maybe four miles west, Mexican restaurant, middle of nowhere, no English menu.

Nothing explains it more than the traveling worker, the migrant farmer. That is how my grandfather was raised. Around here it is tomatoes in the winter, in Mexico. Something about having to return on those special farm worker visas, like at least once a year. So, they lay the fields in during the winter in Mexico. Then, when Spring rolls around they come here, lay in the fields. This is the crew my oldest son worked on. The crew we sold the family farm to.

This is home for them. Papers, no papers, who flippin cares. The Mom stays home, raises the kids, the way it is supposed to be. I mean look at the stats, Hispanic immigrant twice as likely to be a stay at home Mom. And Pop, he makes bank. After setting the fields in during the Spring, he shoots to the mountains, it is Christmas trees. It is nasty work, spraying chemicals in hazmat suits. Huge cancer cluster in that area, Ashe county, North Carolina, beautiful country.

Indians in what is now America want all you republicans to go back to where you came from...... Given republican thought or lack thereof makes sense don't you think? But where is dumbville? Or Stupidland?

https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Republicans-so-pathetic-immature-hypocritical-arrogant-and-ignorant-Like-genuinely-what-is-wrong-with-these-people

Ahem....Red States like Texas and Florida benefit GREATLY from their undocumented immigrants with many more representative seats as well!

Does the census determine voting district boundaries' or does the party in power mostly determine those?

Yeah, that's the ticket...

I'll let you in on a little secret, people don't switch parties just because they moved.

Why would an illegal risk jail, fines and deportation just to cast a vote? Because FOX News told you they do that. You should be asking FOX News for reparations.

The founding fathers were undocumented immigrants

Do you consider those responses an adequate rebuttal? I want to call your attention to one link,

Criminal Alien Statistics

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

Criminal alien arrests, through August this fiscal year, which ended last week, 6,703. Last year, 17,048. Trump is not going to get close. All this enforcement talk, no damn results. Not surprising, look at the results for Trump's previous administration. In four years ICE arrested 11 murderers. ELEVEN. IN FOUR YEARS. 180 was the number for Biden's four years.

Your article has NOTHING to do with illegal immigrants, you MAGA racist.

This piece of shit thread should be closed.

Tucker breaks it down in detail for all the ignorant fools pretending they don’t understand. Tucker Carlson: The great replacement is an electoral strategy

 

[Unkotare]

Oh look, a real racist has arrived. ^^^

 

[BrokeLoser]

Oh look, a real racist has arrived. ^^^

Do you mean REALIST? Don’t you paranoid PC controlled people call all realists racists?

 

[Unkotare]

Do you mean REALIST?...

No.

 

[Winston]

Tucker breaks it down in detail for all the ignorant fools pretending they don’t understand. Tucker Carlson: The great replacement is an electoral strategy

I watched that. I really don't see the appeal of Tucker. He really isn't that bright. His argument against immigration is that it destroys social cohesion and is economically disastrous. I mean lets talk about the social cohesion part first. There is no doubt, we are as divided a country now as we were prior to the Civil War. But that doesn't fall on immigration. Quite honestly, it falls on Republicans, and Democrats to some extent, for being a bunch of whiny ass pussies.

I mean what kind of social cohesion did we have in WWII. The greatest generation, and make no mistakes about it. And that cohesion came from diversity, not in spite of diversity. And it all started with the CCC, the Civilian Conservation Corp. That program bought diverse individuals together and taught them how to work as a team, with discipline and focus. A decade later, these men were the ones that led the way at Normandy.

I mean that is what happens today. You have to be living under a bridge, or at least retired and drawing your disability, to not be able to see it. I mean there is a huge immigrant population here, from all over the world. They don't take, they give, and we see it every day.

I mean where I live, well I just found the cheapest place in the best school district, and that was more than thirty years ago. Been paid for so long I can't remember. And that is what I teach my kids. I don't care what your job is, I don't care how much money you make. I have been working the retirement market for decades. People call me when it is time to start drawing.

Work in a furniture factory, or work as a doctor, doesn't matter. When it comes time to retire your financial position will be based more on how soon your house was paid for than how much money you made. Under 50, good job. Don't buy up. You can be pretty well set, going to take some discipline. Under 40, dee-yam.

Now, get this, under 30, when your house is paid off? Oh, I have seen it. Forty years later, at seventy, they can't spend their money fast enough. And in the end, time catches up to them, and their children get left a legacy.

But no, these immigrants work. I am usually out the door by five in the morning. The Mexican neighbors, In their dualies, massive pick-ups, hauling construction material in a trailer behind. They are out too. Thing is, I roll in, usually around three. They come thumping along as the sun sets.

But it is their women that really bring it home. They are at the top of the road, in their Humvee, or Mercedes coupe. Picking the kids up. They don't work. They got kids to raise, and in the end, that is what you are afraid of. These immigrants, they are doing it right.

Years ago, I worked in furniture sales. It was a change agent thing, I have been kind of a cowboy. But, with my kids, the half dozen army, there was one Asian name that stood out. Like this dude had as many kids as I did. Middle school, High school, the name was always there at award ceremonies. And yeah, so was my surname.

But here I was, completing a big furniture order, for a doctor, just setting up practice, as a surgeon. From that very same family. Man, we laughed it up. You can take that Tucker video and, well, never mind. The reality, Biden is right. Even Friedmann agrees. These immigrants, they are a blessing. I mean you are seriously staring a gift horse in the mouth.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Like any union or relationship a society must be likeminded and cohesive to be sustainable. The purple hair globalist nose-ringers have fun with an unconventional and opposing worldview but remember those same people think men can become women and that homosexuality is cool and normal.
Too many people with too many differences and we end up here with a failed Great Experiment.

But no, these immigrants work. I am usually out the door by five in the morning. The Mexican neighbors, In their dualies, massive pick-ups, hauling construction material in a trailer behind. They are out too. Thing is, I roll in, usually around three. They come thumping along as the sun sets.

But it is their women that really bring it home. They are at the top of the road, in their Humvee, or Mercedes coupe. Picking the kids up. They don't work. They got kids to raise, and in the end, that is what you are afraid of. These immigrants, they are doing it right.

Why do globalist always talk of the micro percentiles when they pitch us on how awesome it is to be surrounded by people who don’t speak our language, don’t worship our God, don’t share our heritage, don’t love our founding, our history, don’t know our principles and values, don’t know our Constitution, don’t know what three words title our Preamble?
Why do they always sell us their “I know these three awesome illegal dudes” story?
Why don’t they share the macro data, tell us of all those great, clean, safe, innovative and prosperous communities, cities and states that are overrun with foreigners?

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Years ago, I worked in furniture sales. It was a change agent thing, I have been kind of a cowboy. But, with my kids, the half dozen army, there was one Asian name that stood out. Like this dude had as many kids as I did. Middle school, High school, the name was always there at award ceremonies. And yeah, so was my surname.

Cool story…Asians tend to be MUCH better ‘immigrants’ than those from our south. East and West cultures align on some key traits.

But here I was, completing a big furniture order, for a doctor, just setting up practice, as a surgeon. From that very same family. Man, we laughed it up. You can take that Tucker video and, well, never mind. The reality, Biden is right. Even Friedmann agrees. These immigrants, they are a blessing. I mean you are seriously staring a gift horse in the mouth.

Point us to where immigrants from our south are improving and enhancing America for Americans…can you?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Dimocrats want them here, and they want them counted in every census so they can grow congressional seats.
Hopefully we will deports millions, but just know the moment Dims take over the WH, the third-world flood will return.

Dimocrats hate borders, hate citizenship, and hate immigration laws being enforced. Dimocrats are traitors, and should be treated as such.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Dimocrats want them here, and they want them counted in every census so they can grow congressional seats.
Hopefully we will deports millions, but just know the moment Dims take over the WH, the third-world flood will return.

Dimocrats hate borders, hate citizenship, and hate immigration laws being enforced. Dimocrats are traitors, and should be treated as such.

Of course they do… Unkotare and all his globalist buddies knows Democrats can’t be relevant without illegals and their spawn.

 

[Unkotare]

Of course they do… Unkotare and all his globalist buddies knows Democrats can’t be relevant without illegals and their spawn.

Still wrong, liar.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Only citizens vote

So why do we find illegals registered to vote?

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

They won't be.

I personally know far more conservative Hispanics than lefty ones. That's just the area of the nation I live in.

Hispanics are just as able to see through media and partisan propaganda as you are I are.

That’s a fallacy’s

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Right, so let's continue to allow millions of illegals into the country every year, let's throw a party for them.

I'll never understand the thought process, I can only hope that if/when it does happen that the people who advocated for this and supported it are the ones who are hurt the most by it.

They are but they are too stupid to notice or care.

 

[rightwinger]

So why do we find illegals registered to vote?

Illegals don’t vote

Prove me wrong

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Illegals don’t vote

Prove me wrong

They are allowed to in some localities, and many states add them to the rolls.

 

[rightwinger]

They are allowed to in some localities, and many states add them to the rolls.

No LLEGALS are allowed to vote

Some states allow legal noncitizens to vote in local and school elections

NONE allow noncitizens to vote in state and national elections

Illegals do not vote
Prove me wrong

 

[OODA_Loop]

Illegals do not vote
Prove me wrong

Done.

Electoral fraud in the United States - Wikipedia

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As of July 2024, the Heritage Foundation database includes only 24 noncitizen voting cases from between 2003 and 2023. In an audit of the 2016 elections, the North Carolina State Board of Elections found that 41 out of 4.8 million total votes were by noncitizens, and between 2017 and 2024, only three cases were referred for prosecution. In 2018, CNN reported that in the past three years, Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach had convicted three noncitizens of voting out of 1.8 million voters.A Brennan Center for Justice study of 2016 data from 42 jurisdictions found an estimated 30 incidents of suspected noncitizen voting out of 23.5 million votes cast (or .0001% of votes).A review in Georgia found that no potential noncitizens had been allowed to register to vote between 1997 and 2022. In September 2024, an audit in Oregon found that more than 1,200 possible noncitizens had been added to the state's voter rolls by mistake; the issue was quickly fixed and no more than 5 noncitizens had cast ballots

 

[Hafar1014]

Having them vote is the long game. Getting them counted in the census is the short game. Democrats will lose a12 or more seats in the 2030 census and the GOP will gain them. This is because millions have left democrat states and moved to GOP states. Illegals are supposed to make up tnat loss. Thats why sanctuary cities were created to attract them and then bribe them with free benefits. How did that work out. Thousands of criminals came in to and crime exploded which democrats covered up

 

[Hafar1014]

No LLEGALS are allowed to vote

Some states allow legal noncitizens to vote in local and school elections

NONE allow noncitizens to vote in state and national elections

Illegals do not vote
Prove me wrong

Having them vote is the long game. Getting them counted in the census is the short game. Democrats will lose a12 or more seats in the 2030 census and the GOP will gain them. This is because millions have left democrat states and moved to GOP states. Illegals are supposed to make up tnat loss. Thats why sanctuary cities were created to attract them and then bribe them with free benefits. How did that work out. Thousands of criminals came in to and crime exploded which democrats covered up.

 

[rightwinger]

Having them vote is the long game. Getting them counted in the census is the short game. Democrats will lose a12 or more seats in the 2030 census and the GOP will gain them. This is because millions have left democrat states and moved to GOP states. Illegals are supposed to make up tnat loss. Thats why sanctuary cities were created to attract them and then bribe them with free benefits. How did that work out. Thousands of criminals came in to and crime exploded which democrats covered up.

First off
The Constitution says count persons not citizens

Second
Texas and Arizona have large populations of noncitizens and vote red

 

[Hafar1014]

First off
The Constitution says count persons not citizens

Second
Texas and Arizona have large populations of noncitizens and vote red

A person is a citizen and it really means legal voters since apportionment is what its all about. After that are all deported before the census it wont matter. It isnt likely democrats will win the presidency so expect an order not to count them. We could let a conservative SC rule on it too. All paths lead to a serious decline in power for democrat and an increase for the GOP. Thats why democrats are willing to shut down the government to keep illegals here and pay them off.