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[RetiredGySgt]

PF Tinmore and friends have all regaled us how if an Israeli kills an Arab that is NOT a uniformed soldier that is bad. That if in the process of retaliating against rocket, mortar and missile fire Israeli efforts lead to the death BY ACCIDENT of a child that is evil and wrong.

Yet they all state gleefully that when Hamas SPECIFICALLY targets schools, school buses, daycare centers and children that is simply a DEFENSIVE action. Done in defense.

Anyone care to explain the disconnect?

 

[P F Tinmore]

"Retaliating" is an interesting word to use since it was the Zionists that attacked and occupied Palestine.

That puts the Palestinians in a defensive position.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

"Retaliating" is an interesting word to use since it was the Zionists that attacked and occupied Palestine.

That puts the Palestinians in a defensive position.

Gleefully supporting the targeting of children as usual. Nothing is beneath you is it?

 

[P F Tinmore]

"Retaliating" is an interesting word to use since it was the Zionists that attacked and occupied Palestine.

That puts the Palestinians in a defensive position.

Gleefully supporting the targeting of children as usual. Nothing is beneath you is it?

At the beginning of the 2nd intifada, Israeli killed 93 Palestinian children before the first Israeli child was killed.

Hamas offered an agreement with Israel that both sides will stop killing civilians.

Israel turned it down.

 

[P F Tinmore]

11:23am UK, Monday March 31, 2008

"We renew our offer to Israel to let the civilians on both sides not be a part of this conflict," he said. "We renew this offer today."

Mr Meshaal, who is a target for Israeli assassination, said if Israel agreed it would not kill any Palestinian civilians then Hamas would only carry out attacks against Israeli military targets.

Hamas Leader Khalid Meshaal Exclusive Interview With Tim Marshall | World News | Sky News

 

[RetiredGySgt]

"Retaliating" is an interesting word to use since it was the Zionists that attacked and occupied Palestine.

That puts the Palestinians in a defensive position.

Gleefully supporting the targeting of children as usual. Nothing is beneath you is it?

At the beginning of the 2nd intifada, Israeli killed 93 Palestinian children before the first Israeli child was killed.

Hamas offered an agreement with Israel that both sides will stop killing civilians.

Israel turned it down.

Hamas PURPOSEFULLY imbeds itself in civilian buildings, structures, amongst civilians. Of course they want no civilian casualties, that would mean they would be IMMUNE to retaliation.

And of COURSE Israel could not agree to any such proposal. BUT then YOU know that already.

ANY and ALL civilian deaths caused by Israel are the DIRECT result of HAMAS. AND before them FATAH. Another fact you are well aware of.

The terrorists set up and launch missile, rocket and mortar attacks from civilian occupied structures, usually Housing complexes. They put their command and control posts UNDER schools, hospitals and apartment buildings. Again something you know full well.

Once again, EXPLAIN why you APPLAUD when Terrorists PURPOSEFULLY target schools, school buses, daycare centers, and children? And condemn it when done accidentally by Israel?

 

[editec]

FYI Israeli and Palestinian conflict stats
(read 'em and weap)​

Israeli Casualties: Adults and Minors
September 2000 to May 5, 2002
Civilian Injuries: 2,707
Civilian Deaths: 319
Source: Israel Defense Forces

Israeli Fatalities of Minors Under Age 18
October 2001 to May 5, 2002
Israelis Minors Killed by Palestinians in the Occupied Territories: 14 (ages 5 months to 17)
(1 by stoning, 2 by beating and stoning, 7 by gunfire and 4 by suicide bombing)
12 percent of total civilian fatalities (117)
Israeli Minors Killed by Palestinians in Israel: 37 (ages 7 months to 17)
(2 by gunfire and 35 by suicide bombing)
21 percent of total civilian fatalities (178)
Source: B'Tselem, Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories

Palestinian Casualties: Adults and Minors in the West Bank and Gaza Strip
September 2000 to May 6, 2002
Injuries: 19,189
Deaths: 1,538
Source: Palestine Red Crescent Society

Palestinian Fatalities of Minors Under Age 18
October 2001 to May 5, 2002
Palestinian Minors Killed by Israeli Security Forces in Occupied Territories
210 (ages 4 months to 17)
22 percent of total civilian fatalities (956)Palestinian Minors Killed by Israeli Citizens in Occupied Territories
1 (age 2 months) (by gunfire)
6 percent of total civilian fatalities (17)

Palestinian Minors Killed by Israeli Security Forces in Israel
1 (age 14) (by Israeli police force)
5 percent of total civilian fatalities (22)
Deaths of Palestinian Minors Caused by Delay in Obtaining Medical Treatment Due to Israeli Restriction of Movement
8 (stillborn to age 11)
35 percent of total civilian fatalities (23)
Source: B'Tselem, Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories

 

[sparky]

maybe we should sell them more drones....

 

[P F Tinmore]

Gleefully supporting the targeting of children as usual. Nothing is beneath you is it?

At the beginning of the 2nd intifada, Israeli killed 93 Palestinian children before the first Israeli child was killed.

Hamas offered an agreement with Israel that both sides will stop killing civilians.

Israel turned it down.

Hamas PURPOSEFULLY imbeds itself in civilian buildings, structures, amongst civilians. Of course they want no civilian casualties, that would mean they would be IMMUNE to retaliation.

And of COURSE Israel could not agree to any such proposal. BUT then YOU know that already.

ANY and ALL civilian deaths caused by Israel are the DIRECT result of HAMAS. AND before them FATAH. Another fact you are well aware of.

The terrorists set up and launch missile, rocket and mortar attacks from civilian occupied structures, usually Housing complexes. They put their command and control posts UNDER schools, hospitals and apartment buildings. Again something you know full well.

Once again, EXPLAIN why you APPLAUD when Terrorists PURPOSEFULLY target schools, school buses, daycare centers, and children? And condemn it when done accidentally by Israel?

There you go with that retaliate thing again. It was the Zionists that attacked and occupied Palestine. The aggressor cannot retaliate.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

At the beginning of the 2nd intifada, Israeli killed 93 Palestinian children before the first Israeli child was killed.

Hamas offered an agreement with Israel that both sides will stop killing civilians.

Israel turned it down.

Hamas PURPOSEFULLY imbeds itself in civilian buildings, structures, amongst civilians. Of course they want no civilian casualties, that would mean they would be IMMUNE to retaliation.

And of COURSE Israel could not agree to any such proposal. BUT then YOU know that already.

ANY and ALL civilian deaths caused by Israel are the DIRECT result of HAMAS. AND before them FATAH. Another fact you are well aware of.

The terrorists set up and launch missile, rocket and mortar attacks from civilian occupied structures, usually Housing complexes. They put their command and control posts UNDER schools, hospitals and apartment buildings. Again something you know full well.

Once again, EXPLAIN why you APPLAUD when Terrorists PURPOSEFULLY target schools, school buses, daycare centers, and children? And condemn it when done accidentally by Israel?

There you go with that retaliate thing again. It was the Zionists that attacked and occupied Palestine. The aggressor cannot retaliate.

There you go again glorifying murderous animals that PURPOSEFULLY target children for murder. Are Jews just not people to you? Is that how you sleep at night?

 

[jillian]

FYI Israeli and Palestinian conflict stats
(read 'em and weap)​

Israeli Casualties: Adults and Minors
September 2000 to May 5, 2002
Civilian Injuries: 2,707
Civilian Deaths: 319
Source: Israel Defense Forces

Israeli Fatalities of Minors Under Age 18
October 2001 to May 5, 2002
Israelis Minors Killed by Palestinians in the Occupied Territories: 14 (ages 5 months to 17)
(1 by stoning, 2 by beating and stoning, 7 by gunfire and 4 by suicide bombing)
12 percent of total civilian fatalities (117)
Israeli Minors Killed by Palestinians in Israel: 37 (ages 7 months to 17)
(2 by gunfire and 35 by suicide bombing)
21 percent of total civilian fatalities (178)
Source: B'Tselem, Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories

Palestinian Casualties: Adults and Minors in the West Bank and Gaza Strip
September 2000 to May 6, 2002
Injuries: 19,189
Deaths: 1,538
Source: Palestine Red Crescent Society

Palestinian Fatalities of Minors Under Age 18
October 2001 to May 5, 2002
Palestinian Minors Killed by Israeli Security Forces in Occupied Territories
210 (ages 4 months to 17)
22 percent of total civilian fatalities (956)Palestinian Minors Killed by Israeli Citizens in Occupied Territories
1 (age 2 months) (by gunfire)
6 percent of total civilian fatalities (17)

Palestinian Minors Killed by Israeli Security Forces in Israel
1 (age 14) (by Israeli police force)
5 percent of total civilian fatalities (22)
Deaths of Palestinian Minors Caused by Delay in Obtaining Medical Treatment Due to Israeli Restriction of Movement
8 (stillborn to age 11)
35 percent of total civilian fatalities (23)
Source: B'Tselem, Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories

1. israelis don't use their women and children as shields.
2. you'd think that if the terrorists were upset that their children get killed, they'd stop lobbing missiles and bombs at school buses.

just sayin'

 

[P F Tinmore]

Can anyone provide a report that does not come out of Israel that claims Palestinians use human shields?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Can anyone provide a report that does not come out of Israel that claims Palestinians use human shields?

Jillian gave me a negative rep on this. It looks like that loser could not find one.

 

[rhodescholar]

PF Tinmore and friends have all regaled us how if an Israeli kills an Arab that is NOT a uniformed soldier that is bad. That if in the process of retaliating against rocket, mortar and missile fire Israeli efforts lead to the death BY ACCIDENT of a child that is evil and wrong.

Yet they all state gleefully that when Hamas SPECIFICALLY targets schools, school buses, daycare centers and children that is simply a DEFENSIVE action. Done in defense.

Anyone care to explain the disconnect?

Animals like whom you refer to are jew-hating filth and likely mentally ill, there is no other explanation needed.

 

[Jos]

1. israelis don't use their women and children as shields.
2. you'd think that if the terrorists were upset that their children get killed, they'd stop lobbing missiles and bombs at school buses.

just sayin'

1.The settlers put their women and children in harms way, by illegaly occupying palistine land
2. The ordinary people have no control over the actions of the freedom fighters

 

[Lasher]

"Retaliating" is an interesting word to use since it was the Zionists that attacked and occupied Palestine.

That puts the Palestinians in a defensive position.

Gleefully supporting the targeting of children as usual. Nothing is beneath you is it?

Doesn't the fact that there have been ten times as many Palestinian children killed in the M.E. as Jewish children mean anything to you, Isaac?

 

[Lasher]

Gleefully supporting the targeting of children as usual. Nothing is beneath you is it?

At the beginning of the 2nd intifada, Israeli killed 93 Palestinian children before the first Israeli child was killed.

Hamas offered an agreement with Israel that both sides will stop killing civilians.

Israel turned it down.

Hamas PURPOSEFULLY imbeds itself in civilian buildings, structures, amongst civilians. Of course they want no civilian casualties, that would mean they would be IMMUNE to retaliation.

And of COURSE Israel could not agree to any such proposal. BUT then YOU know that already.

ANY and ALL civilian deaths caused by Israel are the DIRECT result of HAMAS. AND before them FATAH. Another fact you are well aware of.

The terrorists set up and launch missile, rocket and mortar attacks from civilian occupied structures, usually Housing complexes. They put their command and control posts UNDER schools, hospitals and apartment buildings. Again something you know full well.

Once again, EXPLAIN why you APPLAUD when Terrorists PURPOSEFULLY target schools, school buses, daycare centers, and children? And condemn it when done accidentally by Israel?

Israel doesn't "accidentally" kill Palestinian children, they deliberately fire rockets into homes and schools where there are children, because they are the true terrorists in the M.E. They deliberately shoot children who are in their fathers' arms, they deliberately run over young girls with bull-dozers, and they do it with great glee and gusto, because those Zionist Jews are the most blood-thirsty people alive; they are just following the example of their rabbis who abduct and murder non-Jewish children for their blood which is used in cooking for the Seder.

 

[docmauser1]

Doesn't the fact that there have been ten times as many Palestinian children killed in the M.E. as Jewish children mean anything to you, Isaac?

If palistainians want their children to be killed, they get them killed one way or another. It is no big deal for them, anyway.

 

[docmauser1]

Israel doesn't "accidentally" kill Palestinian children, they deliberately fire rockets into homes and schools where there are children, because they are the true terrorists in the M.E. They deliberately shoot children who are in their fathers' arms, they deliberately run over young girls with bull-dozers, and they do it with great glee and gusto, because those Zionist Jews are the most blood-thirsty people alive; they are just following the example of their rabbis who abduct and murder non-Jewish children for their blood which is used in cooking for the Seder.

As our dear 4-th Geneva convention says "The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations.". But even if tear gas is used on palistainians they cry and sob stories. See, those jackasses never run out of occupations, which in itself is an occupation, of course, and a profitable one, too. How's our english teaching bisyness goin, bth?

 

[docmauser1]

It was the Zionists that attacked and occupied Palestine. The aggressor cannot retaliate.

This is a typical clinical arab delusion, which is based on a false premise that arabs, and, later, palistainians, had a state, which they, of course, hadn't.