If you still believe in deadly climate change, this will help you sleep.

[catatomic]

I think most people can agree that Ohbummer's administration was an overwhelming disaster. It led to Trump getting elected as a correction.

Then why did the Republican-controlled congress under Trump have such a hard time dropping it? This time around Trump has "concepts of plans" (or something like that) to change it.

 

[Robert W]

Excellent presentation in the video and it takes only a very few minutes to watch the whole thing.

And even for those who insist on going with the often skewed and sometimes dishonestly published information from the IPCC, the OP in this old thread of mine should also reassure those who are certain skeptics will destroy the planet by denying that climate change is the most existential threat to life on Planet Earth as we know it.

Thread 'A Balanced View of Climate Change'

Mar 14, 2024

Paraphrased from my source for this thread: more than a million people are killed and multi millions injured in traffic accidents every year that goes by. We could reduce that carnage to near zero if we just reduced traffic speeds to 3 miles an hour. Anybody willing to agree to that to save all those lives? I think 99.9% of people world wide would think that an unreasonable remedy for the problem.

So let's look at unreasonable 'remedies' for the climate change problem.

I have long argued that whether human activity is the driving force behind climate change or not, human kind is here...

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Excellent report as is normal for you.

 

[Robert W]

Obamacare was a rare, major piece of legislation in Congress. My parents said it helped the poor a lot but some rich people too. Obama barely won the first election but won in a landslide the second time.

That program only helped a tiny number of citizens and to qualify it was very very difficult.

 

[catatomic]

That program only helped a tiny number of citizens and to qualify it was very very difficult.

That's not what my parents said.

 

[Robert W]

That's not what my parents said.

Well, some were eligible.

 

[catatomic]

Well, some were eligible.

This may interest you:

Americans without health insurance1997-2023 | Statista

In 2023, 25 million people in the United States had no health insurance.

www.statista.com

You might look at "Number of people without health insurance in the United States from 1997 to 2023".

 

[daveman]

The audacity of predicting 35 then 75 years into the future. It took my breath away.

Meanwhile, the Klimate Kult's Doomsday Prediction rate is 0%.

Only an idiot would believe them.

 

[catatomic]

Meanwhile, the Klimate Kult's Doomsday Prediction rate is 0%.

Only an idiot would believe them.

The models have been accurate for decades.

 

[Robert W]

This may interest you:

Americans without health insurance1997-2023 | Statista

In 2023, 25 million people in the United States had no health insurance.

www.statista.com

You might look at "Number of people without health insurance in the United States from 1997 to 2023".

You confirmed what I said.

 

[daveman]

The models have been accurate for decades.

The models are not accurate.

Blockbuster honesty: Expert modeler admits they can’t predict extreme events, El Nino, tipping points, rain or river flows​

Climate Models Can't Explain What's Happening to Earth​

Why Are Climate Models Always Wrong – And Why Does No One Question It​

 

[catatomic]

The models are not accurate.

Blockbuster honesty: Expert modeler admits they can’t predict extreme events, El Nino, tipping points, rain or river flows​

Climate Models Can't Explain What's Happening to Earth​

Why Are Climate Models Always Wrong – And Why Does No One Question It​

Accurate and precise.

 

[jc456]

If I weren't posting as a climate warrior I probably wouldn't post at all. Note: If it gets solved then I'm free to post too.

Can’t burn electric cars with fossil fuels and then claim climate

 

[daveman]

Accurate and precise.

Neither. You sticking your fingers in your ears and screeching LA LA LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU doesn't make inconvenient truths go away.

 

[catatomic]

Neither. You sticking your fingers in your ears and screeching LA LA LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU doesn't make inconvenient truths go away.

I have a master's in math wrt differential equations, have read hundreds of climate change science papers, dozens of books on the subject and many articles. I also went through that part of a MIT class on MIT open courseware.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Then why did the Republican-controlled congress under Trump have such a hard time dropping it? This time around Trump has "concepts of plans" (or something like that) to change it.

Democrats have the filibuster. It would go nowhere, so why waste our time.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I have a master's in math wrt differential equations, have read hundreds of climate change science papers, dozens of books on the subject and many articles. I also went through that part of a MIT class on MIT open courseware.

So THAT is what is wrong with you!

 

[catatomic]

So THAT is what is wrong with you!

I have a t-shirt that says,

"I'm a Math Teacher Of course I have problems"

 

[catatomic]

Democrats have the filibuster. It would go nowhere, so why waste our time.

Democrats weren't going to filibuster. Republicans had a majority and still couldn't get it past the finish line; that after they voted symbolically to remove it a hundred times when it wouldn't count.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Democrats weren't going to filibuster. Republicans had a majority and still couldn't get it past the finish line; that after they voted symbolically to remove it a hundred times when it wouldn't count.

You may be good at math, but your history sucks! McCain voted "no" when it mattered. That was the margin. Better study harder.

 

[catatomic]

You may be good at math, but your history sucks! McCain voted "no" when it mattered. That was the margin. Better study harder.

That's what I said. He was Republican and the Republicans couldn't get it to work. But I remember that many Republicans didn't really want to pass it.

Are you saying Democrats will filibuster if they try it now?