If you give them no work

[froggy]

Then why is trump going for a wall?

They want National ID. Al of them, Democrat and Republican. Ther only eway theyrle gonna get it is themanufactured fear factor, much the same as they did whe nthey got us voluntarily dropping our pants below our ankes in order to get on an airplane.

I think support for closing loopholes for immigrants to get welfare would be a lot higher than it is for a wall...

Shock report: US paying more for illegal immigrant births than Trump’s wall

 

[Timmy]

You are right that an American child is entitled to welfare.

The child isn't entitles to jack squat nothin.

Birthright citizenship is not any place in the Constitution. Nor has it ever been adjudicated. Ever.

I'm not even gonna bother with reading the rest of your posting.

So how does one become a citizen mr “natural citizen “?

 

[Timmy]

Then why is trump going for a wall?

They want National ID. Al of them, Democrat and Republican. Ther only eway theyrle gonna get it is themanufactured fear factor, much the same as they did whe nthey got us voluntarily dropping our pants below our ankes in order to get on an airplane.

I think support for closing loopholes for immigrants to get welfare would be a lot higher than it is for a wall...

Shock report: US paying more for illegal immigrant births than Trump’s wall

What would you have us do? Throw a woman in labor out of the hospital and in the gutter cause she doesn’t have papers ?

 

[Natural Citizen]

So how does one become a citizen mr “natural citizen “?

From USA.gov...

How to Apply for U.S. Citizenship

 

[Timmy]

So how does one become a citizen mr “natural citizen “?

From USA.gov...

How to Apply for U.S. Citizenship

You want every child born in America to apply for citizenship?

What’s the test ? Ohhhh hunger games style death match!

 

[Crepitus]

They will not come

Number of undocumented immigrants in USA falls to 12-year low, researchers say

Nothing wrong with working people here legally, but not in a dependent subsidizing of the wealthy kind of way.

Otherwise we shouldn't be allowing business owners to hire hords of low wage labor from another country, and then pay them $7.00 dollars an hour while the government gives the workers welfare, healthcare, free schooling for their children etc.

This inturn creates a huge disincentive for these same employers to hire or give decent fair employment offers to American's.

It got so bad that the nation's top commander and chief "Bush" at the time, used the sorry excuse of "hey they're just doing the Jobs American's won't do".... Total bullcrap and we know it.

Undocumented immigrants, including DACA holders, are not eligible to receive most federal public benefits loke Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, regular Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for health care subsidies, in short they can't get welfare


Se few do get some emergency medical treatment and in spite of republican wishes we do try to prevent people from actively starving to death in our country. That's pretty much it.

 

[beagle9]

Then why is trump going for a wall?

They want National ID. Al of them, Democrat and Republican. Ther only eway theyrle gonna get it is themanufactured fear factor, much the same as they did whe nthey got us voluntarily dropping our pants below our ankes in order to get on an airplane.

I think support for closing loopholes for immigrants to get welfare would be a lot higher than it is for a wall...

Shock report: US paying more for illegal immigrant births than Trump’s wall

What would you have us do? Throw a woman in labor out of the hospital and in the gutter cause she doesn’t have papers ?

I would think that people when discussing the issues are talking about "preventive" instead of "reactive".

However, the libs/left love to brand the conservatives as a reactive group but of course they do, and this is so to make the target appear as racist or anyother label that a group can be placed up under by such a false branding and/or labeling when done in such a way.

 

[beagle9]

They will not come

Number of undocumented immigrants in USA falls to 12-year low, researchers say

Nothing wrong with working people here legally, but not in a dependent subsidizing of the wealthy kind of way.

Otherwise we shouldn't be allowing business owners to hire hords of low wage labor from another country, and then pay them $7.00 dollars an hour while the government gives the workers welfare, healthcare, free schooling for their children etc.

This inturn creates a huge disincentive for these same employers to hire or give decent fair employment offers to American's.

It got so bad that the nation's top commander and chief "Bush" at the time, used the sorry excuse of "hey they're just doing the Jobs American's won't do".... Total bullcrap and we know it.

Undocumented immigrants, including DACA holders, are not eligible to receive most federal public benefits loke Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, regular Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for health care subsidies, in short they can't get welfare


Se few do get some emergency medical treatment and in spite of republican wishes we do try to prevent people from actively starving to death in our country. That's pretty much it.

And how does 23 million undocumented people exist here off the so called grid ?

Are they living in abandoned houses, burning stolen firewood, eating wild animals, and showing up to the emergency room when eat the wrong berries off the berry bush tree ??

 

[Crepitus]

They will not come

Number of undocumented immigrants in USA falls to 12-year low, researchers say

Nothing wrong with working people here legally, but not in a dependent subsidizing of the wealthy kind of way.

Otherwise we shouldn't be allowing business owners to hire hords of low wage labor from another country, and then pay them $7.00 dollars an hour while the government gives the workers welfare, healthcare, free schooling for their children etc.

This inturn creates a huge disincentive for these same employers to hire or give decent fair employment offers to American's.

It got so bad that the nation's top commander and chief "Bush" at the time, used the sorry excuse of "hey they're just doing the Jobs American's won't do".... Total bullcrap and we know it.

Undocumented immigrants, including DACA holders, are not eligible to receive most federal public benefits loke Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, regular Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for health care subsidies, in short they can't get welfare


Se few do get some emergency medical treatment and in spite of republican wishes we do try to prevent people from actively starving to death in our country. That's pretty much it.

And how does 23 million undocumented people exist here off the so called grid ?

Are they living in abandoned houses, burning stolen firewood, eating wild animals, and showing up to the emergency room when eat the wrong berries off the berry bush tree ??

Your republican handlers give them jobs.

 

[beagle9]

They will not come

Number of undocumented immigrants in USA falls to 12-year low, researchers say

Nothing wrong with working people here legally, but not in a dependent subsidizing of the wealthy kind of way.

Otherwise we shouldn't be allowing business owners to hire hords of low wage labor from another country, and then pay them $7.00 dollars an hour while the government gives the workers welfare, healthcare, free schooling for their children etc.

This inturn creates a huge disincentive for these same employers to hire or give decent fair employment offers to American's.

It got so bad that the nation's top commander and chief "Bush" at the time, used the sorry excuse of "hey they're just doing the Jobs American's won't do".... Total bullcrap and we know it.

Undocumented immigrants, including DACA holders, are not eligible to receive most federal public benefits loke Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, regular Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for health care subsidies, in short they can't get welfare


Se few do get some emergency medical treatment and in spite of republican wishes we do try to prevent people from actively starving to death in our country. That's pretty much it.

And how does 23 million undocumented people exist here off the so called grid ?

Are they living in abandoned houses, burning stolen firewood, eating wild animals, and showing up to the emergency room when eat the wrong berries off the berry bush tree ??

Your republican handlers give them jobs.

Agree... The sell out hasn't been on just one side of the isle you are right.

 

[Crepitus]

They will not come

Number of undocumented immigrants in USA falls to 12-year low, researchers say

Nothing wrong with working people here legally, but not in a dependent subsidizing of the wealthy kind of way.

Otherwise we shouldn't be allowing business owners to hire hords of low wage labor from another country, and then pay them $7.00 dollars an hour while the government gives the workers welfare, healthcare, free schooling for their children etc.

This inturn creates a huge disincentive for these same employers to hire or give decent fair employment offers to American's.

It got so bad that the nation's top commander and chief "Bush" at the time, used the sorry excuse of "hey they're just doing the Jobs American's won't do".... Total bullcrap and we know it.

Undocumented immigrants, including DACA holders, are not eligible to receive most federal public benefits loke Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, regular Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for health care subsidies, in short they can't get welfare


Se few do get some emergency medical treatment and in spite of republican wishes we do try to prevent people from actively starving to death in our country. That's pretty much it.

And how does 23 million undocumented people exist here off the so called grid ?

Are they living in abandoned houses, burning stolen firewood, eating wild animals, and showing up to the emergency room when eat the wrong berries off the berry bush tree ??

Your republican handlers give them jobs.

Agree... The sell out hasn't been on just one side of the isle you are right.

Yes, it has. The right.

 

[KissMy]

You are right that an American child is entitled to welfare.

The child isn't entitles to jack squat nothin.

Birthright citizenship is not any place in the Constitution. Nor has it ever been adjudicated. Ever.

I'm not even gonna bother with reading the rest of your posting.

You LIE! You should read the US Constitution & pay close attention to the preamble "promote the general Welfare" and the 14th amendment.

Article XIV (Amendment 14 - Rights Guaranteed: Privileges and Immunities of Citizenship, Due Process, and Equal Protection) (1) All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

 

[beagle9]

Nothing wrong with working people here legally, but not in a dependent subsidizing of the wealthy kind of way.

Otherwise we shouldn't be allowing business owners to hire hords of low wage labor from another country, and then pay them $7.00 dollars an hour while the government gives the workers welfare, healthcare, free schooling for their children etc.

This inturn creates a huge disincentive for these same employers to hire or give decent fair employment offers to American's.

It got so bad that the nation's top commander and chief "Bush" at the time, used the sorry excuse of "hey they're just doing the Jobs American's won't do".... Total bullcrap and we know it.

Undocumented immigrants, including DACA holders, are not eligible to receive most federal public benefits loke Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, regular Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for health care subsidies, in short they can't get welfare


Se few do get some emergency medical treatment and in spite of republican wishes we do try to prevent people from actively starving to death in our country. That's pretty much it.

And how does 23 million undocumented people exist here off the so called grid ?

Are they living in abandoned houses, burning stolen firewood, eating wild animals, and showing up to the emergency room when eat the wrong berries off the berry bush tree ??

Your republican handlers give them jobs.

Agree... The sell out hasn't been on just one side of the isle you are right.

Yes, it has. The right.

It has been a two fold problem... The rich work them, and then the Demon-crats look at them as oppressed poor folks that need to be taken care of by the poor working class Americans in this country, and the only way to take care of these foriegn workers (by these crats way of doing things), is to use government power to help them. The problem with this concept sadly, is that it cost working class taxpayers billions taking care of what is going on in it all.

Everything rolls down hill, and the poor and the working class American poor get screwed over forever in this bullcrap.


What a set up it has been for the rich in this country, and the crats who live lavishly off of government for whom they direct to keep the balance between the rich and the poor in a very perverse way of doing it.

 

[Moonglow]

but if you give them welfare they will!

there lies the answer.

No welfare then. Yes? Yes!

or rather


No? No welfare then

The laws must be changed then. Why did the Repubs waste their time when they had a majority?

 

[Crepitus]

Undocumented immigrants, including DACA holders, are not eligible to receive most federal public benefits loke Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, regular Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). Undocumented immigrants are ineligible for health care subsidies, in short they can't get welfare


Se few do get some emergency medical treatment and in spite of republican wishes we do try to prevent people from actively starving to death in our country. That's pretty much it.

And how does 23 million undocumented people exist here off the so called grid ?

Are they living in abandoned houses, burning stolen firewood, eating wild animals, and showing up to the emergency room when eat the wrong berries off the berry bush tree ??

Your republican handlers give them jobs.

Agree... The sell out hasn't been on just one side of the isle you are right.

Yes, it has. The right.

It has been a two fold problem... The rich work them, and then the Demon-crats look at them as oppressed poor folks that need to be taken care of by the poor working class Americans in this country, and the only way to take care of these foriegn workers (by these crats way of doing things), is to use government power to help them. The problem with this concept sadly, is that it cost working class taxpayers billions taking care of what is going on in it all.

Everything rolls down hill, and the poor and the working class American poor get screwed over forever in this bullcrap.


What a set up it has been for the rich in this country, and the crats who live lavishly off of government for whom they direct to keep the balance between the rich and the poor in a very perverse way of doing it.

Precisely. The Democrats are not sellouts. They are practicing what they preach.

Republicans on the other hand are paying lip service to their ideals and doing the opposite. In other words they are sellouts.

 

[Natural Citizen]

You LIE! You should read the US Constitution & pay close attention to the preamble "promote the general Welfare" and the 14th amendment.

Article XIV (Amendment 14 - Rights Guaranteed: Privileges and Immunities of Citizenship, Due Process, and Equal Protection) (1) All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

I'll see you in the bull ring.

 

[beagle9]

And how does 23 million undocumented people exist here off the so called grid ?

Are they living in abandoned houses, burning stolen firewood, eating wild animals, and showing up to the emergency room when eat the wrong berries off the berry bush tree ??

Your republican handlers give them jobs.

Agree... The sell out hasn't been on just one side of the isle you are right.

Yes, it has. The right.

It has been a two fold problem... The rich work them, and then the Demon-crats look at them as oppressed poor folks that need to be taken care of by the poor working class Americans in this country, and the only way to take care of these foriegn workers (by these crats way of doing things), is to use government power to help them. The problem with this concept sadly, is that it cost working class taxpayers billions taking care of what is going on in it all.

Everything rolls down hill, and the poor and the working class American poor get screwed over forever in this bullcrap.


What a set up it has been for the rich in this country, and the crats who live lavishly off of government for whom they direct to keep the balance between the rich and the poor in a very perverse way of doing it.

Precisely. The Democrats are not sellouts. They are practicing what they preach.

Republicans on the other hand are paying lip service to their ideals and doing the opposite. In other words they are sellouts.

No, the Demon-crats are worse... They thrive and hold power off of the exploitation/backs of the poor for whom they only use instead of truly helping them in the long term.

Both parties are guilty of exploitation.