If you bet 21 days you won

[Doc1]

my bad weasel thinking you could see the error of your ways

He is an idiot, to dismiss anything out of hand

It was bullshit then and it's bullshit now. Liberals are just brainwashed disciples with no ability to process anything.

How is this for "bullseye" son. The government can provide insurance with an overhead of 3%, yet private insurers prior to the ACA were writing off as much as 40% of every premium dollar as "overhead"

Umm..no, the 3% number is a myth since it excludes all the administrative costs that are offloaded to other government agencies like the IRS (which collects all the revenues necessary to run the programs), the HHS which does all the accounting, auditing, fraud investigation, marketing, building and operational costs and in case no one told you government run healthcare programs are TAX EXEMPT which private insurers are not (private insurers actually bear part of the cost to run government health care programs via the taxes they pay).

Lastly and most importantly Medicare subscribers are older and sicker which drives up the denominator used to calculate those bogus overhead figures, the denominator shifts administrative costs into patient care costs making it seem like administrative costs are lower while increasing patient care costs artificially, it's an accounting trick.

It's IMPOSSIBLE for any government agency to be more efficient than a private sector counterpart because lacking the profit motive and competition there is NO incentive for a government agency to be more efficient or provide higher quality products and services. They can simply take whatever resources they deem necessary by force and they have a captive customer base which isn't vulnerable to competitive offerings.

Are you gonna tell us that it costs the government more that the 40% overhead that private insurance companies had been charging

Prove that they can kid, you made the statement. You can start by showing us how efficient Gov agencies are.

 

[NightFox]

Umm..no, the 3% number is a myth since it excludes all the administrative costs that are offloaded to other government agencies like the IRS (which collects all the revenues necessary to run the programs), the HHS which does all the accounting, auditing, fraud investigation, marketing, building and operational costs and in case no one told you government run healthcare programs are TAX EXEMPT which private insurers are not (private insurers actually bear part of the cost to run government health care programs via the taxes they pay).

Lastly and most importantly Medicare subscribers are older and sicker which drives up the denominator used to calculate those bogus overhead figures, the denominator shifts administrative costs into patient care costs making it seem like administrative costs are lower while increasing patient care costs artificially, it's an accounting trick.

It's IMPOSSIBLE for any government agency to be more efficient than a private sector counterpart because lacking the profit motive and competition there is NO incentive for a government agency to be more efficient or provide higher quality products and services. They can simply take whatever resources they deem necessary by force and they have a captive customer base which isn't vulnerable to competitive offerings.

Are you gonna tell us that it costs the government more that the 40% overhead that private insurance companies had been charging

What government insurance providers are there?

you know the answer to that, providers are not needed. Why should any company be in the business of profiting in healthcare

LOL, Why should any company be in the business of profiting on anything? Perhaps the concepts of specialization of labor and voluntary exchange are new ones to you but out here in the real world the prosperity of the entire human race relies on them. If providers weren't needed there would be no market demand for what they are selling.

The reason that Companies are in the business of profiting in healthcare is because consumers want and need their services and are willing to pay for them, that's what profit is, it's the payment for goods and services rendered along with compensation for the risk to capital that entrepreneurs expose themselves to. You don't work for cost do you? Why the fuck would you expect anybody else to?

Yes and who cares if MYLN can raise the price of a drug from $50 to $800?? and all the others ripping off the public Guess you think thats fine and dandy too?

No such thing as "ripping off the public" unless we're talking about fraud since "MYLN" isn't holding a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to buy what they have to sell, if you don't like the price don't pay it, either find a competitor with offerings at a price you're willing to pay OR provide whatever the product is for yourself. With respect to drug companies it's especially poignant since thanks to government interference R&D costs are artificially inflated resulting in stifled competition (barriers to entry) AND increased product prices.

The ONLY institution that regularly "rips off" the public is government since it charges whatever price it wants for whatever arbitrary product/service quality it wants AND holds a gun to peoples heads and forces them to pay the ask.

 

[edward37]

Are you gonna tell us that it costs the government more that the 40% overhead that private insurance companies had been charging

What government insurance providers are there?

you know the answer to that, providers are not needed. Why should any company be in the business of profiting in healthcare

LOL, Why should any company be in the business of profiting on anything? Perhaps the concepts of specialization of labor and voluntary exchange are new ones to you but out here in the real world the prosperity of the entire human race relies on them. If providers weren't needed there would be no market demand for what they are selling.

The reason that Companies are in the business of profiting in healthcare is because consumers want and need their services and are willing to pay for them, that's what profit is, it's the payment for goods and services rendered along with compensation for the risk to capital that entrepreneurs expose themselves to. You don't work for cost do you? Why the fuck would you expect anybody else to?

Yes and who cares if MYLN can raise the price of a drug from $50 to $800?? and all the others ripping off the public Guess you think thats fine and dandy too?

No such thing as "ripping off the public" unless we're talking about fraud since "MYLN" isn't holding a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to buy what they have to sell, if you don't like the price don't pay it, either find a competitor with offerings at a price you're willing to pay OR provide whatever the product is for yourself. With respect to drug companies it's especially poignant since thanks to government interference R&D costs are artificially inflated resulting in stifled competition (barriers to entry) AND increased product prices.

The ONLY institution that regularly "rips off" the public is government since it charges whatever price it wants for whatever arbitrary product/service quality it wants AND holds a gun to peoples heads and forces them to pay the ask.

You're nutz Buying a company for a drug they have and raising the price a 1000% ? is ok? an important drug for many people?? What about those that go for 95K ?

 

[edward37]

IMPEACH
8 Reasons Trump Could Be Impeached
By Robert Reich, Robert Reich's Facebook Page

28 December 16

ust 24 days to go before Trump is sworn in. The next question: How long before Trump is impeached, and what will he be impeached for? Some possibilities:

1. Taking money from foreign governments, in violation of Article I Section 9 of the Constitution.
   
2. Colluding with a foreign power against the interests of the United States, considered treason.
   
3. Using the presidency for private gain, in violation of federal law (5 Code of Federal Regulations 2635.702).
   
4. Seeking to intimidate critics, in violation of the First Amendment.
   
5. Undermining the freedom and independence of the press, in violation of the First Amendment.
   
6. Attacking freedom of religion, in violation of the First Amendment.
   
7. Undermining the rule of law through arbitrary and capricious statements and orders, in violation of the Due Process clause of the First Amendment.
   
8. Suppressing the votes of minorities, in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment.
   
9. Other?

 

[Iceweasel]

Yes and who cares if MYLN can raise the price of a drug from $50 to $800?? and all the others ripping off the public Guess you think thats fine and dandy too?

Most people were happy with their insurance. As far as the cost of drugs go, ask the FDA why it's so expensive and takes so long. Plus lawsuits are a lottery ticket for many. I don't love drug companies but the costs are not for no good reason. They should be able to charge whatever they want. You don't want to pay, don't take the fucking drug, how hard is that? When did you get entitled to be taken care of regardless of costs?

 

[Iceweasel]

IMPEACH
8 Reasons Trump Could Be Impeached
By Robert Reich, Robert Reich's Facebook Page

28 December 16

ust 24 days to go before Trump is sworn in. The next question: How long before Trump is impeached, and what will he be impeached for? Some possibilities:

1. Taking money from foreign governments, in violation of Article I Section 9 of the Constitution.
   
2. Colluding with a foreign power against the interests of the United States, considered treason.
   
3. Using the presidency for private gain, in violation of federal law (5 Code of Federal Regulations 2635.702).
   
4. Seeking to intimidate critics, in violation of the First Amendment.
   
5. Undermining the freedom and independence of the press, in violation of the First Amendment.
   
6. Attacking freedom of religion, in violation of the First Amendment.
   
7. Undermining the rule of law through arbitrary and capricious statements and orders, in violation of the Due Process clause of the First Amendment.
   
8. Suppressing the votes of minorities, in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment.
   
9. Other?

Jesus Christ, you're recycling old election bullshit? You dumbfucks are off the rails.

 

[edward37]

Yes and who cares if MYLN can raise the price of a drug from $50 to $800?? and all the others ripping off the public Guess you think thats fine and dandy too?

Most people were happy with their insurance. As far as the cost of drugs go, ask the FDA why it's so expensive and takes so long. Plus lawsuits are a lottery ticket for many. I don't love drug companies but the costs are not for no good reason. They should be able to charge whatever they want. You don't want to pay, don't take the fucking drug, how hard is that? When did you get entitled to be taken care of regardless of costs?

Right now ice I said a prayer a prayer that one day you'll need a drug that costs 95000 ,a drug that could save your life Good luck on paying it

 

[edward37]

IMPEACH
8 Reasons Trump Could Be Impeached
By Robert Reich, Robert Reich's Facebook Page

28 December 16

ust 24 days to go before Trump is sworn in. The next question: How long before Trump is impeached, and what will he be impeached for? Some possibilities:

1. Taking money from foreign governments, in violation of Article I Section 9 of the Constitution.
   
2. Colluding with a foreign power against the interests of the United States, considered treason.
   
3. Using the presidency for private gain, in violation of federal law (5 Code of Federal Regulations 2635.702).
   
4. Seeking to intimidate critics, in violation of the First Amendment.
   
5. Undermining the freedom and independence of the press, in violation of the First Amendment.
   
6. Attacking freedom of religion, in violation of the First Amendment.
   
7. Undermining the rule of law through arbitrary and capricious statements and orders, in violation of the Due Process clause of the First Amendment.
   
8. Suppressing the votes of minorities, in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment.
   
9. Other?

Jesus Christ, you're recycling old election bullshit? You dumbfucks are off the rails.

You gave the presidency to an idiot The cost is coming due

 

[Iceweasel]

Yes and who cares if MYLN can raise the price of a drug from $50 to $800?? and all the others ripping off the public Guess you think thats fine and dandy too?

Most people were happy with their insurance. As far as the cost of drugs go, ask the FDA why it's so expensive and takes so long. Plus lawsuits are a lottery ticket for many. I don't love drug companies but the costs are not for no good reason. They should be able to charge whatever they want. You don't want to pay, don't take the fucking drug, how hard is that? When did you get entitled to be taken care of regardless of costs?

Right now ice I said a prayer a prayer that one day you'll need a drug that costs 95000 ,a drug that could save your life Good luck on paying it

Unlike yourself I won't turn into a sniveling entitled brat and force my neighbor to pay for it or demand they provide it at manufacturing costs.

 

[Iceweasel]

IMPEACH
8 Reasons Trump Could Be Impeached
By Robert Reich, Robert Reich's Facebook Page

28 December 16

ust 24 days to go before Trump is sworn in. The next question: How long before Trump is impeached, and what will he be impeached for? Some possibilities:

1. Taking money from foreign governments, in violation of Article I Section 9 of the Constitution.
   
2. Colluding with a foreign power against the interests of the United States, considered treason.
   
3. Using the presidency for private gain, in violation of federal law (5 Code of Federal Regulations 2635.702).
   
4. Seeking to intimidate critics, in violation of the First Amendment.
   
5. Undermining the freedom and independence of the press, in violation of the First Amendment.
   
6. Attacking freedom of religion, in violation of the First Amendment.
   
7. Undermining the rule of law through arbitrary and capricious statements and orders, in violation of the Due Process clause of the First Amendment.
   
8. Suppressing the votes of minorities, in violation of the Fourteenth Amendment.
   
9. Other?

Jesus Christ, you're recycling old election bullshit? You dumbfucks are off the rails.

You gave the presidency to an idiot The cost is coming due

The payoff is here now. Liberals' little brains are boiling over and I'm lovin' it.

 

[NightFox]

What government insurance providers are there?

you know the answer to that, providers are not needed. Why should any company be in the business of profiting in healthcare

LOL, Why should any company be in the business of profiting on anything? Perhaps the concepts of specialization of labor and voluntary exchange are new ones to you but out here in the real world the prosperity of the entire human race relies on them. If providers weren't needed there would be no market demand for what they are selling.

The reason that Companies are in the business of profiting in healthcare is because consumers want and need their services and are willing to pay for them, that's what profit is, it's the payment for goods and services rendered along with compensation for the risk to capital that entrepreneurs expose themselves to. You don't work for cost do you? Why the fuck would you expect anybody else to?

Yes and who cares if MYLN can raise the price of a drug from $50 to $800?? and all the others ripping off the public Guess you think thats fine and dandy too?

No such thing as "ripping off the public" unless we're talking about fraud since "MYLN" isn't holding a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to buy what they have to sell, if you don't like the price don't pay it, either find a competitor with offerings at a price you're willing to pay OR provide whatever the product is for yourself. With respect to drug companies it's especially poignant since thanks to government interference R&D costs are artificially inflated resulting in stifled competition (barriers to entry) AND increased product prices.

The ONLY institution that regularly "rips off" the public is government since it charges whatever price it wants for whatever arbitrary product/service quality it wants AND holds a gun to peoples heads and forces them to pay the ask.

You're nutz Buying a company for a drug they have and raising the price a 1000% ? is ok? an important drug for many people?? What about those that go for 95K ?

Why isn't it okay? it's HIS company and thus it's HIS drug, he can charge whatever he likes for it, just like you can do with your private property and your labor. NOBODY is being forced to buy what he is selling and nobody is stopping anybody else from offering lower priced alternatives (well except the morons in government).

 

[whitehall]

Is this going to be the radical left's "mission accomplished moment"? Y'all pathetic left wing cretins better wait until until Sessions tackles Hillary and Billary before you start numbering days.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Trump is not going to be impeached. You lost the election fair and square. Deal with it and stop acting like the spoiled two year old brats you all mentally are. While I'm not thrilled about Trump running the country I sure as hell don't want you childish clowns at the helm either.

Fair and square you say? Now we know different.

Do we?

 

[edward37]

Is this going to be the radical left's "mission accomplished moment"? Y'all pathetic left wing cretins better wait until until Sessions tackles Hillary and Billary before you start numbering days.

Sessions should be investigating himself

 

[edward37]

Trump is not going to be impeached. You lost the election fair and square. Deal with it and stop acting like the spoiled two year old brats you all mentally are. While I'm not thrilled about Trump running the country I sure as hell don't want you childish clowns at the helm either.

Fair and square you say? Now we know different.

Do we?

NO we refers to people who think who have IQ's in triple digits,,,who don't kiss trumps ass

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Trump is not going to be impeached. You lost the election fair and square. Deal with it and stop acting like the spoiled two year old brats you all mentally are. While I'm not thrilled about Trump running the country I sure as hell don't want you childish clowns at the helm either.

Fair and square you say? Now we know different.

Do we?

NO we refers to people who think who have IQ's in triple digits,,,who don't kiss trumps ass

I have an MBA and I didn't vote for Trump. Were you trying to make some kind of point?

 

[edward37]

Trump is not going to be impeached. You lost the election fair and square. Deal with it and stop acting like the spoiled two year old brats you all mentally are. While I'm not thrilled about Trump running the country I sure as hell don't want you childish clowns at the helm either.

Fair and square you say? Now we know different.

Do we?

NO we refers to people who think who have IQ's in triple digits,,,who don't kiss trumps ass

I have an MBA and I didn't vote for Trump. Were you trying to make some kind of point?

you are then an exception to the rule Sorry

 

[edward37]

Appears our president is
..illegitimate. Does his illegitimacy permit Federal employees to disregard his edicts? Should they, inclusive of the military? And since Pence was, in reality, a Trumpovitch appointee, would he be considered illegitimate as well?




Is this country now rudderless with our ship of state adrift without direction?
Mr B

 

[ClosedCaption]

Trump is not going to be impeached. You lost the election fair and square. Deal with it and stop acting like the spoiled two year old brats you all mentally are. While I'm not thrilled about Trump running the country I sure as hell don't want you childish clowns at the helm either.

Fair and square you say? Now we know different.

Do we?

If it's still unclear then either your under a rock or you're giving a whole lot of room for excuses.

If this was the game clue, you'd know the answer. Lol

 

[NightFox]

Sessions should be investigating himself

NO we refers to people who think who have IQ's in triple digits,,,who don't kiss trumps ass

LOL, Obviously you're not one of those people.