Mac1958
Diamond Member
Minor problem - I'm not lecturing you. I was asked questions, and I answered them. And I wasn't posting to you.Well, this has been a fascination of mine for a LONG time. In fact, it's the one topic I think about more than any other involving politics -- do those who are consumed by an ideology really believe what they're saying?I'm willing to see what they have to say. I'm trying to get to the crux of the matter as to why so many of the members here most hateful, derogatory and insulting comments about black people in general, and several have directed their comments specifically at me, yet don't believe they are racists. I can't decide if they're just being dishonest or if their thought processing mechanism has a fault. On the other hand my instincts are that they know full well what they're doing, that it's intentional, that they believe it's their right to be a full on hard core racist and no one can tell them otherwise and that as long as there is not law explictly prohibiting racism then they're good.I assume you're not expecting many straight, honest answers, right?A lot of people either have never seen a dictionary definition of racism or they create their own definitions. This is from one of the government agencies which oversees the enforcement of portions of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (EEOC)
"Race discrimination involves treating someone (an applicant or employee) unfavorably because he/she is of a certain race or because of personal characteristics associated with race (such as hair texture, skin color, or certain facial features). Color discrimination involves treating someone unfavorably because of skin color complexion.
It is unlawful to harass a person because of that person's race or color.
Harassment can include, for example, racial slurs, offensive or derogatory remarks about a person's race or color, or the display of racially-offensive symbols. Although the law doesn't prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not very serious, harassment is illegal when it is so frequent or severe that it creates a hostile or offensive work environment or when it results in an adverse employment decision (such as the victim being fired or demoted)"
The harasser can be the victim's supervisor, a supervisor in another area, a co-worker, or someone who is not an employee of the employer, such as a client or customer"
So the above is a definition of racial discrimination specific to the workplace but it explains some types of behavior that can be viewed as racist.
I've been trying to think of something that is not unlawful but is generally hands down unacceptable as far as society is concerned in order to make a comparison but thus far I can only come up with one thing.
I've done a lot of reading on the subconscious and the psychology of political partisanship. and my guess (at the moment) is that they do. In other words, it's possible that they're being absolutely sincere.
To me, it's all about the subconscious, which can essentially be "trained" to believe dang near anything over time. The elements of subconscious training are (1) an existing belief or philosophy in any given topic, (2) the regular repetition of words, phrases and ideas ("talking points"), and (3) a voluntary intellectual isolation that minimizes exposure to contrary beliefs (to the point where they become distorted) and maximizes exposure to supporting beliefs.
Well, holy crap, that's exactly what we have going on here. So when many of these people say the things they say, it's very possible they believe it to their bones. I've compared trying to communicate with them with trying to communicate with a wild-eyed Jihadi on the streets of Damascus. They're simply detached from reality, and absolutely committed to their separated, closed circuit belief system.
We Trump supporters are done being lectured by people like you.
We have legitimate issues and interests and we will not have them dismissed because someone like you cries "Wacism".
You are the "wild eyed lunatic", not us.
I'm not trying to convince someone like you of anything. But I do wish you'd stop whining and playing the victim.