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I hate to say worship when talking about religion. We do not say worship when talking of abiogenesis. We don't even say that when discussing Darwin. Who says to believe Darwin you must worship? Not me I say.It's amazing how atheists worship science until it doesn't suit their purpose. Then they fuck science in the ass. I know it's unnerving for you to believe the universe literally popped into existence being created from nothing but that's exactly what the mainstream science says.
I am not up to date on all of that, but am on some of it, and I believe what you believe is more accurate than what Atheists or Democrats say all the time.I have faith in the evidence; red shift, CMB, quantum mechanics, and Friedmann's solutions to Einstein's field equations.
No, I don't ignore that. Right now there's nothing that explains it better. So as hard as it is for you to believe that the universe popped into existence occupying the space of a proton and then began to expand and cool, that's exactly what the evidence shows.No scientific theory is proven, you 'scientist'. It is merely accepted as the best explanation for the evidence until a better explanation emerges or new evidence is found.
That you continually ignore it is the best evidence you operate on faith.
WISE WORDS FROM A FOUNDING FATHER OF OUR GREAT NATIONI am not up to date on all of that, but am on some of it, and I believe what you believe is more accurate than what Atheists or Democrats say all the time.
It has to do mostly with who we care about. We care about the people of America. Democrats care about themselves.WISE WORDS FROM A FOUNDING FATHER OF OUR GREAT NATION
"There is in the nature of government an impatience of control that disposes those invested with power to look with an evil eye upon all external attempts to restrain or direct its operations. This has its origin in the love of power. Representatives of the people are not superior to the people themselves." Alexander Hamilton - Federalist Papers, 1787.
Then why do so many GOP representatives believe they are -- superior?
Are we delusional?
We believe we and all matter has always existed. As Einstein said matter cannot be created nor destroyed. Just altered from matter to energy and back. If you believe God was Alone forever before making matter, how sad. Energy or intelligence has always existed. The greatest of all intelligences figured out how to form matter out of the lesser energy. From then, don’t know when and how everything took place. It did and here we are in a universe with our Father of our spirit and intelligences. all we know is as man is now, God once was. How many generations of universes with Gods is unknown. Just that families are forever.None of them are arguing the universe was created from pre-existing matter. Feel free to link to anything you thinks proves Jesus created the universe from existing matter. Apparently Mormons don't believe that God is powerful enough to create the universe from nothing.
That is the teaching from the church I am a member of.We believe we and all matter has always existed. As Einstein said matter cannot be created nor destroyed. Just altered from matter to energy and back. If you believe God was Alone forever before making matter, how sad. Energy or intelligence has always existed. The greatest of all intelligences figured out how to form matter out of the lesser energy. From then, don’t know when and how everything took place. It did and here we are in a universe with our Father of our spirit and intelligences. all we know is as man is now, God once was. How many generations of universes with Gods is unknown. Just that families are forever.
We used to hear more about the concept of eternal increase in joy and posterity 40 years ago. Our responsibility, if we make to the highest degree of the Celestial Kingdom is to Father our eternal children in our own universe that we originate or organize. We won’t know how until we get there and have a lot more learning to do.That is the teaching from the church I am a member of.
So, prior to his current state, he was like a man is.
So before he created all, he was like me and you.
Kind of interesting isn't it?
I'm right here no need to start another thread.
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Very true. That’s where faith comes in.
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Any links to support these silly propositions that oppose the big bang theory?We believe we and all matter has always existed. As Einstein said matter cannot be created nor destroyed. Just altered from matter to energy and back. If you believe God was Alone forever before making matter, how sad. Energy or intelligence has always existed. The greatest of all intelligences figured out how to form matter out of the lesser energy. From then, don’t know when and how everything took place. It did and here we are in a universe with our Father of our spirit and intelligences. all we know is as man is now, God once was. How many generations of universes with Gods is unknown. Just that families are forever.
that idea doesn't oppose it at all.Any links to support these silly propositions that oppose the big bang theory?
Link? Or it didn't happen.
its an experiment - the outcome of an explosion in deep space, you are incapable of a response to that outcome in relation to the cyclical bb -
Link?
I have faith in the evidence; red shift, CMB, quantum mechanics, and Friedmann's solutions to Einstein's field equations.
I hate to say worship when talking about religion. We do not say worship when talking of abiogenesis. We don't even say that when discussing Darwin. Who says to believe Darwin you must worship? Not me I say.
But the atheists have an enormous burden when claiming all of this something showed up from nothing and leave out the creator.
Ding and I are on the same page with this issue.
Faith is having complete trust in something or someone. I have complete trust in the evidence that shows the universe began ~14 billion years ago and that it was not created from pre-existing matter or energy.faith does not exist in science than as an ulterior motive - without bearing for the conclusion. bing the deceiver.
- would that include the false heavenly personifications of the desert religions.
From God himself to His prophets. You want to believe in your unproven theoretical prophets, that’s your free moral agency. But don’t force it on the rest of us to believe. They are only theories by their observations. We have our observations and the right to reject your prophets trying to unload a pile of horse manure that something comes from nothing.Any links to support these silly propositions that oppose the big bang theory?
