If we selectively bred people with highest percentage of Neanderthal DNA over generations.

[DOTR]

Homo Sapiens did...along with chimps, bonobos and giraffes. Some of the sapiens moved out of Africa and hybridized with denosovians and Neanderthals in the Levant and then in a crescent across Europe to the Caucasus Mountains.
Oh look caucasians originated in Europe. The Africans not advanced enough to travel continents remained in Africa and never hybridized with Neanderthals. They back bred with more archaic hominids.

How long have you considered science to be witchcraft ?

I wouldnt brag about interbreeding with neanderthals. They are a failed species. Homo Sapiens came from Africa without interbreeding.

Neanderthals interbred with modern man, they were assimilated much like the majority of American Indians

That only makes people with neanderthal dna part homo sapiens. Real homo sapiens are pure with no failed homo neanderthalensis dna.

Correct. You and I are a different species to a large extent.

Wrong. You are a sub species. I am true homo sapiens

Yes you are. A very archaic form of the original sapiens which bred back with proto humans at least three times.

 

[DOTR]

I wouldnt brag about interbreeding with neanderthals. They are a failed species. Homo Sapiens came from Africa without interbreeding.

Neanderthals interbred with modern man, they were assimilated much like the majority of American Indians

That only makes people with neanderthal dna part homo sapiens. Real homo sapiens are pure with no failed homo neanderthalensis dna.

Correct. You and I are a different species to a large extent.

Wrong. You are a sub species. I am true homo sapiens

Yes you are. A very archaic form of the original sapiens which bred back with proto humans at least three times.

Australian aborigines and the San (Khoisan) in East Africa were well on their way in the process of becoming non human species when the British stepped in. Colonialism arrested the process.

 

[DOTR]

Dogs are 99.9 percent wolf, their species markers however are IDENTICAL
Stop coddling your dog—he’s 99.9% wolf

Dogs share a common ancestor with Wolves but are not wolves. Their closest living relatives are Gray Wolves but this is not an ancestral species. The common ancestor of wolves and dogs has long been extinct.
Dogs have always been a problem in cladistics. Traditionally they have been Canis Familiaris as opposed to Canis Lupus. There is no good solution but the modern trend is towards canis lupus familiaris.
Doesnt matter. A wolf is obviously not a dog.

Explain how a bulldog or pug that can not either mate or give birth naturally is anything except a horrible mutation, of the parent wolf

It isn’t a mutation of a wolf rosy. Pugs aren’t wolves. They have mutations sure...but they are really descended from the mastiff branch of dogs.
I don’t like the exaggerated braxhycephalic breeding of pugs either. But they typically live what 15 years? Not quite as good as other small dogs but respectful longevity still.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

A very archaic form of the original sapiens which bred back with proto humans at least three times.

Which was exactly your description of europeans. Dude, you are incoherent.

 

[Rosy]

Dogs are 99.9 percent wolf, their species markers however are IDENTICAL
Stop coddling your dog—he’s 99.9% wolf

Dogs share a common ancestor with Wolves but are not wolves. Their closest living relatives are Gray Wolves but this is not an ancestral species. The common ancestor of wolves and dogs has long been extinct.
Dogs have always been a problem in cladistics. Traditionally they have been Canis Familiaris as opposed to Canis Lupus. There is no good solution but the modern trend is towards canis lupus familiaris.
Doesnt matter. A wolf is obviously not a dog.

Explain how a bulldog or pug that can not either mate or give birth naturally is anything except a horrible mutation, of the parent wolf

It isn’t a mutation of a wolf rosy. Pugs aren’t wolves. They have mutations sure...but they are really descended from the mastiff branch of dogs.
I don’t like the exaggerated braxhycephalic breeding of pugs either. But they typically live what 15 years? Not quite as good as other small dogs but respectful longevity still.

Pugs can't run, if they do they suffocate. Pugs and bulldogs also can not mate or give natural birth. Mastiffs are wolves too. The number of generations or time since the first wolf has been domesticated is not enough for speciation to occur

 

[DOTR]

Pugs can't run, if they do they suffocate. Pugs and bulldogs also can not mate or give natural birth. Mastiffs are wolves too. The number of generations or time since the first wolf has been domesticated is not enough for speciation to occur

I never knew that about Pugs. What a shame.

Ive always enjoyed and raised dogs I considered natural...primarily the German Shepherd. And before you think it isn't a natural dog consider that you may be thinking of the American lines. liberals have severely crippled the American German Shepherd show lines. The last one I raised was a German line. Almost an entirely different breed from the American ones.
But again..a shame about the pugs. Sounds kind of miserable for them. (Still not a wolf though )

American Line

 

[DOTR]

No, you are racist, and you would fail a science test on this material.

I see you are low in Neanderthal genes. Have fun with this.

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Oh my God, Darwins tree of life that begins with MUD.....

Really

what the hell? Mud?

 

[DOTR]

That only makes people with neanderthal dna part homo sapiens. Real homo sapiens are pure with no failed homo neanderthalensis dna.

I wouldnt brag about interbreeding with neanderthals. They are a failed species. Homo Sapiens came from Africa without interbreeding.

Actually, as i said earlier, Sub Saharan African Blacks had no admixture of Neanderthal like Europeans. But yes they were crossbred too. As the chart I put up shows they bred back to the various more primitive, archaic, species of the genus Homo remaining in Africa such as Homo heidelbergensis (see facial reconstruction below)

While European ancestors left Africa and hybridized with Homo Neanderthalis (facial reconstruction of Neanderthal female below LINK )

 

[DOTR]

Wrong. You are a sub species. I am true homo sapiens

Ahh liberals and their genetic purity fantasies. You are a result of hybrids between Homo sapiens and more primitive members of the genus Homo. Dont let it bother you. The liberal obsession with genetic purity really doesnt stand up to scrutiny.
You should get a genetic test done. 23andme really doesn't break it down into the more primitive pre-humans which make up part of your genome but it will absolutely show the amount of Neanderthal SNPs if you have any at all through white ancestry. It's really interesting. Too bad 23andme doesn't break down the others but I think I can figure out why.

First, this natural bias is probably to some degree because people with Neanderthal genes discovered CRISPR, DNA, Mendelian inheritance, evolution, cell meiosis, chromosomes and so on and so on...so its no surprise to find the popular DNA tests biased towards Neanderthal SNPs.
But secondly the sub Saharan African admixture in your genome is really just an intensifying of genes we already all possessed. No doubt you would have a greater number of the more primitive pre Sapiens genes but its a difference in degree rather than kind.
Just guessing here as to their reasoning.

I am a product of Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals...a species which led the way out of Africa. Call it a sub species if you like...I'm easy and it makes for interesting conversation.
But if you want to use trinomial cladistics then it would have to apply across the board wouldn't it? So if I am Homo sapiens neanderthalis then you would be Homo sapiens heidelbergensis ...with perhaps some mixture of Homo erectus as well?

 

[DOTR]

Which was exactly your description of europeans. Dude, you are incoherent.

I've noticed than when you feel afraid and/or intimidated by being exposed to thoughtcrimes in science discussions your replies get really choppy and nonsensical.
Maybe you would be less stressed if you were to switch to posting here Arts & Crafts

 

[DOTR]

If we selectively bred people with the highest percentages of Neanderthal DNA, could we keep selecting for higher and higher percentages in order to re-create Neanderthals or at least people with much higher percentages over a long period of time?

I think it's already been done.

Actually they both appear to have rather fewer Neanderthal variants than the average for whites. They lack the prominence of the brow ridge and forehead.

 

[konradv]

Actually they both appear to have rather fewer Neanderthal variants than the average for whites. They lack the prominence of the brow ridge and forehead.

There's been some obvious plastic surgery going on here. They'll do anything to try and fit in. Look at the vacant non-comprehending eyes.

 

[DOTR]

A very archaic form of the original sapiens which bred back with proto humans at least three times.

Which was exactly your description of europeans. Dude, you are incoherent.

It’s difficult to speak with people as dense as yourself because I keep having to stop and explain basics to you.
Neanderthals weren’t proto-humans. They were contemporaneous with Homo sapiens and shared a common ancestor. Put another way...Homo neantheralis were not an ancestral species to Homo sapiens and so not proto-humans.
I wish I had a simpler way of explaining it but the fact is it wouldn’t matter to you anyhow. You are an example of they typical liberal who holds science and advancement back. You’ve decided, with a very spotty education , that since these facts don’t seem Marxist approved then they are facts that must be repressed by any sophistry necessary. Typical barbarian.
I uploaded a chart of Homo lineages accepted by science. Get hot refuting it. Or go back to your ET studies.
Science and civilization have suffered under your type for centuries.

 

[Rosy]

Pugs can't run, if they do they suffocate. Pugs and bulldogs also can not mate or give natural birth. Mastiffs are wolves too. The number of generations or time since the first wolf has been domesticated is not enough for speciation to occur

I never knew that about Pugs. What a shame.

Ive always enjoyed and raised dogs I considered natural...primarily the German Shepherd. And before you think it isn't a natural dog consider that you may be thinking of the American lines. liberals have severely crippled the American German Shepherd show lines. The last one I raised was a German line. Almost an entirely different breed from the American ones.
But again..a shame about the pugs. Sounds kind of miserable for them. (Still not a wolf though )

American Line
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I love German Sheps as well, but I would never buy one for fear of hip dysplasia. I saw a 10 month old pup shep at the dog park a couple of years ago, very skinny, the woman was feeding him chicken but he wouldn't eat, he ran around in the small dog section of the park for a while then laid down. Saddest thing I ever saw, idiots line breed for show contest and have no clue that line breeding destroys lives

 

[Rosy]

No, you are racist, and you would fail a science test on this material.

I see you are low in Neanderthal genes. Have fun with this.

View attachment 227163

Oh my God, Darwins tree of life that begins with MUD.....

Really

what the hell? Mud?

You never read Darwins letter to Hooker?

Really mud, or perhaps pond scum if you prefer

In 1871 Charles Darwin wrote a now famous letter to Joseph Hooker which included some of his speculations on the spontaneous generation of life in some "warm little pond".

The letter was mailed to Hooker on February 1st, 1871.

Down,Beckenham, Kent, S.E. My dear Hooker,

... It is often said that all the conditions for the first production of a living organism are now present, which could ever have been present.

But if (and oh what a big if) we could conceive in some warm little pond with all sorts of ammonia and phosphoric salts,—light, heat, electricity & c. present, that a protein compound was chemically formed, ready to undergo still more complex changes, at the present day such matter wd be instantly devoured, or absorbed, which would not have been the case before living creatures were formed.

 

[DOTR]

Pugs can't run, if they do they suffocate. Pugs and bulldogs also can not mate or give natural birth. Mastiffs are wolves too. The number of generations or time since the first wolf has been domesticated is not enough for speciation to occur

I never knew that about Pugs. What a shame.

Ive always enjoyed and raised dogs I considered natural...primarily the German Shepherd. And before you think it isn't a natural dog consider that you may be thinking of the American lines. liberals have severely crippled the American German Shepherd show lines. The last one I raised was a German line. Almost an entirely different breed from the American ones.
But again..a shame about the pugs. Sounds kind of miserable for them. (Still not a wolf though )

American Line
View attachment 227507

I love German Sheps as well, but I would never buy one for fear of hip dysplasia. I saw a 10 month old pup shep at the dog park a couple of years ago, very skinny, the woman was feeding him chicken but he wouldn't eat, he ran around in the small dog section of the park for a while then laid down. Saddest thing I ever saw, idiots line breed for show contest and have no clue that line breeding destroys lives

Pretty much any large breed is suceptable to HD.
If you like GSD but fear HD you should make sure and get an S.V dog. Not foolproof but the Germans are working like hell on this. I like their approach. It isn’t so much line breeding but early breeding perpetuating the problem. They have developed/are developing a system of colored breeding papers which show desirable sires and dams only after offspring have reached a few years old showing no signs of HD. Hope it works.

 

[DOTR]

No, you are racist, and you would fail a science test on this material.

I see you are low in Neanderthal genes. Have fun with this.

View attachment 227163

Oh my God, Darwins tree of life that begins with MUD.....

Really

what the hell? Mud?

You never read Darwins letter to Hooker?

Really mud, or perhaps pond scum if you prefer

In 1871 Charles Darwin wrote a now famous letter to Joseph Hooker which included some of his speculations on the spontaneous generation of life in some "warm little pond".

The letter was mailed to Hooker on February 1st, 1871.

Down,Beckenham, Kent, S.E. My dear Hooker,

... It is often said that all the conditions for the first production of a living organism are now present, which could ever have been present.

But if (and oh what a big if) we could conceive in some warm little pond with all sorts of ammonia and phosphoric salts,—light, heat, electricity & c. present, that a protein compound was chemically formed, ready to undergo still more complex changes, at the present day such matter wd be instantly devoured, or absorbed, which would not have been the case before living creatures were formed.

Ahhh ok. Gotcha.

You seem interested in this subject and I never tire of recommending Nick Lan to people who like to read this stuff. His books are a little less readable than, say, Dawkins or Gould or Zimmer or Wilson but his theories are worth wading through. He postulates an ion gradient across micro-pores in deep sea vents. (Not him alone but he seems to be the theorie’s most eloquent proponent)
But still...why just once?

Hydrothermal vents and the origins of life

 

[Asclepias]

I wouldnt brag about interbreeding with neanderthals. They are a failed species. Homo Sapiens came from Africa without interbreeding.

Neanderthals interbred with modern man, they were assimilated much like the majority of American Indians

That only makes people with neanderthal dna part homo sapiens. Real homo sapiens are pure with no failed homo neanderthalensis dna.

Correct. You and I are a different species to a large extent.

Wrong. You are a sub species. I am true homo sapiens

Yes you are. A very archaic form of the original sapiens which bred back with proto humans at least three times.

Yes I am the original homo sapiens. Not the one that bred with neanderthals and suffered a mutation that caused a lack of melanin and later suffered a period of extensive inbreeding.

 

[Asclepias]

Wrong. You are a sub species. I am true homo sapiens

Ahh liberals and their genetic purity fantasies. You are a result of hybrids between Homo sapiens and more primitive members of the genus Homo. Dont let it bother you. The liberal obsession with genetic purity really doesnt stand up to scrutiny.
You should get a genetic test done. 23andme really doesn't break it down into the more primitive pre-humans which make up part of your genome but it will absolutely show the amount of Neanderthal SNPs if you have any at all through white ancestry. It's really interesting. Too bad 23andme doesn't break down the others but I think I can figure out why.

First, this natural bias is probably to some degree because people with Neanderthal genes discovered CRISPR, DNA, Mendelian inheritance, evolution, cell meiosis, chromosomes and so on and so on...so its no surprise to find the popular DNA tests biased towards Neanderthal SNPs.
But secondly the sub Saharan African admixture in your genome is really just an intensifying of genes we already all possessed. No doubt you would have a greater number of the more primitive pre Sapiens genes but its a difference in degree rather than kind.
Just guessing here as to their reasoning.

I am a product of Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals...a species which led the way out of Africa. Call it a sub species if you like...I'm easy and it makes for interesting conversation.
But if you want to use trinomial cladistics then it would have to apply across the board wouldn't it? So if I am Homo sapiens neanderthalis then you would be Homo sapiens heidelbergensis ...with perhaps some mixture of Homo erectus as well?

Already took a DNA test. I literally have less than .01% of neanderthal DNA. The result of one of my ancestors being raped during slavery. Homo sapiens led the way out of Africa. The ones that went to europe mixed with neanderthals.

 

[DOTR]

Yes I am the original homo sapiens. Not the one that bred with neanderthals and suffered a mutation that caused a lack of melanin and later suffered a period of extensive inbreeding.

Well no...you arent. You are the result of Homo sapiens backcrossing with primitive proto-humans.