If we do not turn our love of self to our hate of self, we are bound for our near extinction.

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If we do not turn our love of self to our hate of self, we are bound for our near extinction.

Science has shown that the good in us, our love side, is dominating us via our selfish gene.

Science is also showing us that we are in a major extinction event that may well include a vast number of people. I doubt that our full extinction will come to pass, but we will be reduced to such small numbers that we will likely revert to a less sophisticated system and city states.

If we do not turn our swords into plows, and devastate the worlds populations with war, our environment will do the deed and near extinct us.

We love our governments and gods. That is why we have let them bring us to the brink of extinction. We follow them so closely that we all have our heads stuck into the ground.

I think, given the incompetence of all governments and gods; we should let our great love for what leads us and turn it to hate, as we should, to insure the survival of people right here and right now. Start to hate the systems that got us all to this pitiful place in time.

We presently elect our incompetent governments and gods for a variety of reasons. We are all tribal and belong to a religious tribe or a government tribe. We all follow their ideologies, theologies or philosophies. We are all the same in this.

Surely, given that we are basically all humans, who wish to love more than hate, can hate those things that are putting us all in peril long enough to do something about our head long leap to near extinction.

The environment is under political control and they are killing our bodies. Our bodies harbor our souls to the physical world where our children live.

I think it is time for a god to take over.

I don’t care if it is a pedophile protecting Pope or a united Christianity, or newly elected Khalif of a newly united Islam, but a god must step up, as our political side has failed humankind completely.

Our politicians are not uniting the world and should be made to step down so that some form of religious system, chosen by the masses, so that we can try uniting under a newly elected god.

Jesus prophesied that that would become a necessity, and so did Socrates before him. Both were right in thinking that such a system would be the best possible end for political theories.

I urge the vast majority of the world, the religious, to have a final battle in the ongoing god wars, which involves our political gods as well. Let their hate out by debate and elect a new god of peace so that our current incompetent batch of leaders might find the best one.

My love of the religious has let loose my hate against our incompetent political leadership and I think we all should, elect a new god and save us from our own near extinction.

We have the means; do we have the will?

Regards
DL
 
If we do not turn our love of self to our hate of self, we are bound for our near extinction.

Science has shown that the good in us, our love side, is dominating us via our selfish gene.

Science is also showing us that we are in a major extinction event that may well include a vast number of people. I doubt that our full extinction will come to pass, but we will be reduced to such small numbers that we will likely revert to a less sophisticated system and city states.

If we do not turn our swords into plows, and devastate the worlds populations with war, our environment will do the deed and near extinct us.

We love our governments and gods. That is why we have let them bring us to the brink of extinction. We follow them so closely that we all have our heads stuck into the ground.

I think, given the incompetence of all governments and gods; we should let our great love for what leads us and turn it to hate, as we should, to insure the survival of people right here and right now. Start to hate the systems that got us all to this pitiful place in time.

We presently elect our incompetent governments and gods for a variety of reasons. We are all tribal and belong to a religious tribe or a government tribe. We all follow their ideologies, theologies or philosophies. We are all the same in this.

Surely, given that we are basically all humans, who wish to love more than hate, can hate those things that are putting us all in peril long enough to do something about our head long leap to near extinction.

The environment is under political control and they are killing our bodies. Our bodies harbor our souls to the physical world where our children live.

I think it is time for a god to take over.

I don’t care if it is a pedophile protecting Pope or a united Christianity, or newly elected Khalif of a newly united Islam, but a god must step up, as our political side has failed humankind completely.

Our politicians are not uniting the world and should be made to step down so that some form of religious system, chosen by the masses, so that we can try uniting under a newly elected god.

Jesus prophesied that that would become a necessity, and so did Socrates before him. Both were right in thinking that such a system would be the best possible end for political theories.

I urge the vast majority of the world, the religious, to have a final battle in the ongoing god wars, which involves our political gods as well. Let their hate out by debate and elect a new god of peace so that our current incompetent batch of leaders might find the best one.

My love of the religious has let loose my hate against our incompetent political leadership and I think we all should, elect a new god and save us from our own near extinction.

We have the means; do we have the will?

Regards
DL

You turn your sword into a plow first, so I can can take your plow away and make a sword out of it.
 
If we do not turn our love of self to our hate of self, we are bound for our near extinction.

Science has shown that the good in us, our love side, is dominating us via our selfish gene.

Science is also showing us that we are in a major extinction event that may well include a vast number of people. I doubt that our full extinction will come to pass, but we will be reduced to such small numbers that we will likely revert to a less sophisticated system and city states.

If we do not turn our swords into plows, and devastate the worlds populations with war, our environment will do the deed and near extinct us.

We love our governments and gods. That is why we have let them bring us to the brink of extinction. We follow them so closely that we all have our heads stuck into the ground.

I think, given the incompetence of all governments and gods; we should let our great love for what leads us and turn it to hate, as we should, to insure the survival of people right here and right now. Start to hate the systems that got us all to this pitiful place in time.

We presently elect our incompetent governments and gods for a variety of reasons. We are all tribal and belong to a religious tribe or a government tribe. We all follow their ideologies, theologies or philosophies. We are all the same in this.

Surely, given that we are basically all humans, who wish to love more than hate, can hate those things that are putting us all in peril long enough to do something about our head long leap to near extinction.

The environment is under political control and they are killing our bodies. Our bodies harbor our souls to the physical world where our children live.

I think it is time for a god to take over.

I don’t care if it is a pedophile protecting Pope or a united Christianity, or newly elected Khalif of a newly united Islam, but a god must step up, as our political side has failed humankind completely.

Our politicians are not uniting the world and should be made to step down so that some form of religious system, chosen by the masses, so that we can try uniting under a newly elected god.

Jesus prophesied that that would become a necessity, and so did Socrates before him. Both were right in thinking that such a system would be the best possible end for political theories.

I urge the vast majority of the world, the religious, to have a final battle in the ongoing god wars, which involves our political gods as well. Let their hate out by debate and elect a new god of peace so that our current incompetent batch of leaders might find the best one.

My love of the religious has let loose my hate against our incompetent political leadership and I think we all should, elect a new god and save us from our own near extinction.

We have the means; do we have the will?

Regards
DL

You turn your sword into a plow first, so I can can take your plow away and make a sword out of it.
Huhhhh ? Gimme n 8x16 piece and 1/2 hour
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..we should have one big last orgy and then go out in a big ball of FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I love the times times these lazy, spoiled people try to make us believe that they would be happier in a savage world where their inherently keen wits and violent natures would finally be an advantage.
 
Relax. The world isn't ending. It's purging dumb motherfuckers.
Did you shave this morning ?

Insert gays and women harmed by homophobic and misogynous religions to this quote. You should get an idea of what you should be doing with the homophobic and misogynous mainstream religions if you live by the golden rule.

Please get back to me with your conclusion.

Martin Niemöller
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Regards
DL
 
I love the times times these lazy, spoiled people try to make us believe that they would be happier in a savage world where their inherently keen wits and violent natures would finally be an advantage.


Who are you blaiming for our 5,000 years of war history?

Religions or governments?

Regards
DL
 
I love the times times these lazy, spoiled people try to make us believe that they would be happier in a savage world where their inherently keen wits and violent natures would finally be an advantage.


Who are you blaiming for our 5,000 years of war history?

Religions or governments?

Regards
DL
There's a difference? It's all tribalism. Whether you are killing in the name of The Lord or killing in the name of The KIng it's all the same.
 
I love the times times these lazy, spoiled people try to make us believe that they would be happier in a savage world where their inherently keen wits and violent natures would finally be an advantage.


Who are you blaiming for our 5,000 years of war history?

Religions or governments?

Regards
DL
There's a difference? It's all tribalism. Whether you are killing in the name of The Lord or killing in the name of The KIng it's all the same.

One is real and the other imaginary.

To you those might be the same but not to a dictionary.

Do want to die3 for reality or unreality?

Regards
DL
 
I love the times times these lazy, spoiled people try to make us believe that they would be happier in a savage world where their inherently keen wits and violent natures would finally be an advantage.


Who are you blaiming for our 5,000 years of war history?

Religions or governments?

Regards
DL
Same as I always have. The assholes who blindly follow orders.
 
I love the times times these lazy, spoiled people try to make us believe that they would be happier in a savage world where their inherently keen wits and violent natures would finally be an advantage.


Who are you blaiming for our 5,000 years of war history?

Religions or governments?

Regards
DL
There's a difference? It's all tribalism. Whether you are killing in the name of The Lord or killing in the name of The KIng it's all the same.

One is real and the other imaginary.

To you those might be the same but not to a dictionary.

Do want to die3 for reality or unreality?

Regards
DL
Not sure what you are talking about. Religions and governments are both social constructs meant to keep the masses in line. The very idea that they could be separate things did not exist prior to the founding of America. Even today most countries have a state religion and clergy has a place in the high counsels of government.
 
I love the times times these lazy, spoiled people try to make us believe that they would be happier in a savage world where their inherently keen wits and violent natures would finally be an advantage.


Who are you blaiming for our 5,000 years of war history?

Religions or governments?

Regards
DL

It's both of course. Christendom has the most violent history of any group - in contrast to Jesus' teachings of love and peace, including that we should love our enemies (Matthew 5:44) which those of my religion actually do.

Jehovah's Witnesses do not go to war - neither did early Christians.
 
I love the times times these lazy, spoiled people try to make us believe that they would be happier in a savage world where their inherently keen wits and violent natures would finally be an advantage.


Who are you blaiming for our 5,000 years of war history?

Religions or governments?

Regards
DL
Same as I always have. The assholes who blindly follow orders.

Ditto, and that is the vast majority of us, unfortunately.

Many are called but few hear it or have matured enough to be the fittest of us.

Regards
DL
 
I love the times times these lazy, spoiled people try to make us believe that they would be happier in a savage world where their inherently keen wits and violent natures would finally be an advantage.


Who are you blaiming for our 5,000 years of war history?

Religions or governments?

Regards
DL
There's a difference? It's all tribalism. Whether you are killing in the name of The Lord or killing in the name of The KIng it's all the same.

One is real and the other imaginary.

To you those might be the same but not to a dictionary.

Do want to die3 for reality or unreality?

Regards
DL
Not sure what you are talking about. Religions and governments are both social constructs meant to keep the masses in line. The very idea that they could be separate things did not exist prior to the founding of America. Even today most countries have a state religion and clergy has a place in the high counsels of government.

None of that takes away the fact that one side is selling a fact based reasoned ideology to sell itself while the other, religions, are selling pure fantasy.

Nether are particularly selling reality but at least politicians use facts, for the most part, while the mainstream religions use fiction and posit that a genocidal god id a good god.

Regards
DL
 
I love the times times these lazy, spoiled people try to make us believe that they would be happier in a savage world where their inherently keen wits and violent natures would finally be an advantage.


Who are you blaiming for our 5,000 years of war history?

Religions or governments?

Regards
DL

It's both of course. Christendom has the most violent history of any group - in contrast to Jesus' teachings of love and peace, including that we should love our enemies (Matthew 5:44) which those of my religion actually do.

Jehovah's Witnesses do not go to war - neither did early Christians.

Hmmm.

Tell us how that works. Let's use a scenario where you walk in on someone raping your wife.

You say you can love that man. How, why? You are not even the one who has the right to forgive the offence. That belongs to your wife.

Yahweh is dualistic in this as shown with his creating hell for those he hates.

You are not like your god and you are supposed to be. We live in a dualistic universe and you are trying to live in some other type of universe. Not a good idea.

Stop loving what you should hate.

Regards
DL
 
Relax. The world isn't ending. It's purging dumb motherfuckers.
Did you shave this morning ?

Insert gays and women harmed by homophobic and misogynous religions to this quote. You should get an idea of what you should be doing with the homophobic and misogynous mainstream religions if you live by the golden rule.

Please get back to me with your conclusion.

Martin Niemöller
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Regards
DL

Lutheran pastor Martin Niemoller was a pacifist especially after he observed the evidence of the holocaust. Our literature quotes him here:


"Who Is to Blame for War?

IS God to blame for the wars fought by humankind? “No, God does not want war.” That is how Martin Niemöller, a well-known German Protestant clergyman, answered this question shortly after the end of World War II. His comments were published in 1946 in a book called Ach Gott vom Himmel sieh darein—Sechs Predigten (O God, Look From Heaven—Six Sermons).* The book states:

“Whoever wants to blame God for [wars] does not know, or does not want to know, God’s Word. Of course, it is a different question whether or not we Christians bear a good measure of guilt for the incessant wars. And we cannot escape this question so easily. . . . It can also be accurately recalled that Christian churches have, throughout the ages, repeatedly given themselves to blessing wars, troops, and weapons and that they prayed in a very unchristian way for the destruction of their enemies at war. All this is our fault and the fault of our fathers, but by no means is God to blame. And we Christians of today stand ashamed before a so-called sect like the Earnest Bible Students [Jehovah’s Witnesses], who by the hundreds and thousands went into concentration camps and [even] died because they declined service in war and refused to fire on humans.”
 
I love the times times these lazy, spoiled people try to make us believe that they would be happier in a savage world where their inherently keen wits and violent natures would finally be an advantage.


Who are you blaiming for our 5,000 years of war history?

Religions or governments?

Regards
DL
There's a difference? It's all tribalism. Whether you are killing in the name of The Lord or killing in the name of The KIng it's all the same.

One is real and the other imaginary.

To you those might be the same but not to a dictionary.

Do want to die3 for reality or unreality?

Regards
DL
Not sure what you are talking about. Religions and governments are both social constructs meant to keep the masses in line. The very idea that they could be separate things did not exist prior to the founding of America. Even today most countries have a state religion and clergy has a place in the high counsels of government.

None of that takes away the fact that one side is selling a fact based reasoned ideology to sell itself while the other, religions, are selling pure fantasy.

Nether are particularly selling reality but at least politicians use facts, for the most part, while the mainstream religions use fiction and posit that a genocidal god id a good god.

Regards
DL
Not particularly enamored of religions either but they serve a real social purpose. They bind communities of people together for a common purpose better than governments ever could. They help people deal with the certainty of death and provide a daily social structure to promote order and lawfulness. Even the most bizarre, strict or violent religious practices once served a real purpose that helped people survive in a world without science.
 
Relax. The world isn't ending. It's purging dumb motherfuckers.
Did you shave this morning ?

Insert gays and women harmed by homophobic and misogynous religions to this quote. You should get an idea of what you should be doing with the homophobic and misogynous mainstream religions if you live by the golden rule.

Please get back to me with your conclusion.

Martin Niemöller
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Regards
DL

Lutheran pastor Martin Niemoller was a pacifist especially after he observed the evidence of the holocaust. Our literature quotes him here:


"Who Is to Blame for War?

IS God to blame for the wars fought by humankind? “No, God does not want war.” That is how Martin Niemöller, a well-known German Protestant clergyman, answered this question shortly after the end of World War II. His comments were published in 1946 in a book called Ach Gott vom Himmel sieh darein—Sechs Predigten (O God, Look From Heaven—Six Sermons).* The book states:

“Whoever wants to blame God for [wars] does not know, or does not want to know, God’s Word. Of course, it is a different question whether or not we Christians bear a good measure of guilt for the incessant wars. And we cannot escape this question so easily. . . . It can also be accurately recalled that Christian churches have, throughout the ages, repeatedly given themselves to blessing wars, troops, and weapons and that they prayed in a very unchristian way for the destruction of their enemies at war. All this is our fault and the fault of our fathers, but by no means is God to blame. And we Christians of today stand ashamed before a so-called sect like the Earnest Bible Students [Jehovah’s Witnesses], who by the hundreds and thousands went into concentration camps and [even] died because they declined service in war and refused to fire on humans.”


You put words into god's mouth while ignoring that you have no way of acessiong the supernatural to prove your point to be real.

You are restricting your god with your speculative nonsense.

For a god who does not want war, he sure ordered it often.

If you are going to ignore so much of your own bible, go away.

Regards
DL
 
I love the times times these lazy, spoiled people try to make us believe that they would be happier in a savage world where their inherently keen wits and violent natures would finally be an advantage.


Who are you blaiming for our 5,000 years of war history?

Religions or governments?

Regards
DL
There's a difference? It's all tribalism. Whether you are killing in the name of The Lord or killing in the name of The KIng it's all the same.

One is real and the other imaginary.

To you those might be the same but not to a dictionary.

Do want to die3 for reality or unreality?

Regards
DL
Not sure what you are talking about. Religions and governments are both social constructs meant to keep the masses in line. The very idea that they could be separate things did not exist prior to the founding of America. Even today most countries have a state religion and clergy has a place in the high counsels of government.

None of that takes away the fact that one side is selling a fact based reasoned ideology to sell itself while the other, religions, are selling pure fantasy.

Nether are particularly selling reality but at least politicians use facts, for the most part, while the mainstream religions use fiction and posit that a genocidal god id a good god.

Regards
DL
Not particularly enamored of religions either but they serve a real social purpose. They bind communities of people together for a common purpose better than governments ever could. They help people deal with the certainty of death and provide a daily social structure to promote order and lawfulness. Even the most bizarre, strict or violent religious practices once served a real purpose that helped people survive in a world without science.

They did have some good points in the past, but not enough today to make up for their homophobic and misogynous ways.

Religions are retarding our secular movement towards civilization and better laws.

They are holding us all back by refusing to give us all equal human status.

Regards
DL
 

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