If Trump / Israel is losing the Iran war...will the military obey commands to nuke Iran to stop he destruction of Israel?

[Zavulon]

Israel needs nukes since Islamic terrorists want to wipe them into oblivion, and Israel’s nuclear capability is a deterrent - and the country is made up of responsible Jews.

One cannot say the same of Iran - an Islamic terror state that murders 50,000 of it own people for protesting.

Anyone that can’t see the difference is driven by Jew-hate.

Israel is, basically, a genocidal and aggressive state which committed numerous acts of unprovoked aggressions and warcrimes, and Iran never fought a war of aggression. And what they do with their own criminals - it's simply nothing of your business. And, of course, you don't care neither about Arabs, nor about Persians, nor about Jews. All what you want, is destabilisation of the Middle East and starting another money laundering operation.

And no, I don't hate Jews (my Dad was a Jew and half of my cousin are Jews). What I do believe is that playing a role of US nuclear proxy to is not what Jewish people actually need for their safety.

 

[JWBooth]

Israel is, basically, a genocidal and aggressive state which committed numerous acts of unprovoked aggressions and warcrimes, and Iran never fought a war of aggression. And what they do with their own criminals - it's simply nothing of your business. And, of course, you don't care neither about Arabs, nor about Persians, nor about Jews. All what you want, is destabilisation of the Middle East and starting another money laundering operation.

And no, I don't hate Jews (my Dad was a Jew and half of my cousin are Jews). What I do believe is that playing a role of US nuclear proxy to is not what Jewish people actually need for their safety.

The actions of the chosen people are sacrosanct and beyond question or criticism, just ask them. Any number of anti Christian posters here will confirm, often vehemently.

 

[Lisa558]

Israel is, basically, a genocidal and aggressive state which committed numerous acts of unprovoked aggressions and warcrimes, and Iran never fought a war of aggression. And what they do with their own criminals - it's simply nothing of your business. And, of course, you don't care neither about Arabs, nor about Persians, nor about Jews. All what you want, is destabilisation of the Middle East and starting another money laundering operation.

And no, I don't hate Jews (my Dad was a Jew and half of my cousin are Jews). What I do believe is that playing a role of US nuclear proxy to is not what Jewish people actually need for their safety.

I stopped reading when you said Israel is genocidal.

 

[Lisa558]

The actions of the chosen people are sacrosanct and beyond question or criticism, just ask them. Any number of anti Christian posters here will confirm, often vehemently.

And another antisemitic leftist jumps into the fray.

 

[Zavulon]

The actions of the chosen people are sacrosanct and beyond question or criticism, just ask them. Any number of anti Christian posters here will confirm, often vehemently.

Yep. And all this "theyarechoosenpeople" nonsense is not just anti-christian, it is, in long run, anti-jewish, too.

 

[Zavulon]

I stopped reading when you said Israel is genocidal.

That's your problem number one. You don't listen the arguments of another side.

 

[Lisa558]

Yep. And all this "theyarechoosenpeople" nonsense is not just anti-christian, it is, in long run, anti-jewish, too.

^^^ and this one is going to claim he’s not an antisemite.

 

[Lisa558]

That's your problem number one. You don't listen the arguments of another side.

Your problem is that you’re a LIAR - when it comes to Jews.

 

[Zavulon]

^^^ and this one is going to claim he’s not an antisemite.

Of course I'm not. My Dad was a Jew and in some circumstances I see myself as a Jew, too. Being a Jew (or a half-Jews, if you wish) and supporting the state of Israel and it's current regime are two (or three?) different things. To survive in this pretty hostile world (and I don't say about Middle East only) the Jews should be a bit smarter than play a role of a mad dog.

 

[Zavulon]

Your problem is that you’re a LIAR - when it comes to Jews.

And what was my lie, if you don't mind?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

That's your problem number one. You don't listen the arguments of another side.

You are not making arguments.

You are indulging in hateful canards.

 

[Zavulon]

You are not making arguments.

You are indulging in hateful canards.

There are arguments:
1) If we want to make the region more or less peaceful, the best what we can do, it to make it nuclear free for all sides.
2) Second good option, after de-nuclearisation of Israel, we can balance Israel with Iran.
3) Keeping Israel as a regional bully, is bad both for the regional safety, safety of Israel and safety of the USA.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Does his understanding of "a fair and equitable deal" means "no nuclear weapons to Israel, too"?

Surely not.

 

[Lisa558]

You are not making arguments.

You are indulging in hateful canards.

Did you hear the hateful one’s latest? He thinks we should take nukes away from Israel, and leave it to the wolves.

 

[Zavulon]

Did you hear the hateful one’s latest? He thinks we should take nukes away from Israel, and leave it to the wolves.

Neither Arabs, nor Persians are wolves. They are human beings. Reasonable Jews can make peace with them.

Anyway, if a nuclear state wins a war against a non-nuclear state by using nukes, it means the immediate end of NPT, little privileged nuclear club in few years became much larger, and every its member less privileged (including terms of safety). And more nukes, more delivery systems, more buttons and fingers on those fingers, makes the situation much worse for everyone (including Israel and the USA), both economically and militarily.
Israel use nukes against Iran, and in few years all Arab states will have nukes. And in few more years, even the terrorists will have them.

 

[Lisa558]

Neither Arabs, nor Persians are wolves. They are human beings. Reasonable Jews can make peace with them.

Anyway, if a nuclear state wins a war against a non-nuclear state by using nukes, it means the immediate end of NPT, little privileged nuclear club in few years became much larger, and every its member less privileged (including terms of safety). And more nukes, more delivery systems, more buttons and fingers on those fingers, makes the situation much worse for everyone (including Israel and the USA), both economically and militarily.
Israel use nukes against Iran, and in few years all Arab states will have nukes. And in few more years, even the terrorists will have them.

First we need to make sure actual TERRORISTS don’t have nukes. Iran needs to be neutralized.

 

[toobfreak]

I’m sure he means the Islamic Regime’s mass murder of 50,000 innocent Iranian citizens.

Are we up to 50K now? Who is providing that figure? I keep hearing numbers from 6,000 to 300,000.

 

[Lisa558]

Are we up to 50K now? Who is providing that figure? I keep hearing numbers from 6,000 to 300,000.

I hear numbers all over the place, too. It’s at least 30,000. Some estimates are 100,000.

But odd how all the people screaming about the Jews committing a “genocide” don’t even mention what the Islamic Terror Regime is doing. No Jews to blame.

 

[Zavulon]

First we need to make sure actual TERRORISTS don’t have nukes. Iran needs to be neutralized.

First of all, we should think a bit more than one step ahead and see a bit wider picture. And, of course, according the US Constitution, the safety of Americans should be more important for American decision-makers than safety of Israel (or, to be more specific, of the current Israeli regime).
Second, playing nuclear deterrence (hard power) and proxy terrorism (soft power) games are two quite opposite things. No one can have both of them, and no one have need in both of them simultaneously.
Third, Israel is a terrorist state, too.

 

[BothWings]

Who told you that ?

Certainly not the mainstream media that is essentially owned by such people.