If the US is number one in science and technology, what place does the GOP have?

[rdean]

If the US is number one in science and technology, what place does the GOP have?

Seriously, we know from Rick Santorum what they think about education. Since it was founded, the US has always been innovative. This is a country that's never "moved backward". American has always been innovative, forward thinking and progressive.

Include the fact that Conservatives have at least 42 amendments to the constitution and the question is, "Do they really want to live here"?

 

[Two Thumbs]

Are we number one?

We used to be tops in education. that is until government and unions took over.

Fortunately there are charter schools. They are doing to much better than gov/union killed schools that Harlem has to run a lottery to see who gets in. And most of the others have a long waiting list.

America will have it's greatness back, and there's not a fucking thing you can do to stop it.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

If the US is number one in science and technology, what place does the GOP have?

Seriously, we know from Rick Santorum what they think about education. Since it was founded, the US has always been innovative. This is a country that's never "moved backward". American has always been innovative, forward thinking and progressive.

Include the fact that Conservatives have at least 42 amendments to the constitution and the question is, "Do they really want to live here"?

You want to know what the US is number one in?

Corporate taxation.

I wonder if that has anything to do with the smart people going other places to make money.

 

[rdean]

If the US is number one in science and technology, what place does the GOP have?

Seriously, we know from Rick Santorum what they think about education. Since it was founded, the US has always been innovative. This is a country that's never "moved backward". American has always been innovative, forward thinking and progressive.

Include the fact that Conservatives have at least 42 amendments to the constitution and the question is, "Do they really want to live here"?

You want to know what the US is number one in?

Corporate taxation.

I wonder if that has anything to do with the smart people going other places to make money.

You mean like China? Mitt admires the Chinese. He want's us to be more like them. I suspect you are already very close.

 

[Mr.Green]

If the US is number one in science and technology, what place does the GOP have?

Seriously, we know from Rick Santorum what they think about education. Since it was founded, the US has always been innovative. This is a country that's never "moved backward". American has always been innovative, forward thinking and progressive.

Include the fact that Conservatives have at least 42 amendments to the constitution and the question is, "Do they really want to live here"?

Were a nation that works to achieve its goals. We are built on strong morals and values. Were a melting pot of people who came to this country with nothing and turned it into a dream. Were an ambitious and powerful group of people. I much rather move "backwards" into prosperity. Proud conservative!!!

 

[rdean]

If the US is number one in science and technology, what place does the GOP have?

Seriously, we know from Rick Santorum what they think about education. Since it was founded, the US has always been innovative. This is a country that's never "moved backward". American has always been innovative, forward thinking and progressive.

Include the fact that Conservatives have at least 42 amendments to the constitution and the question is, "Do they really want to live here"?

Were a nation that works to achieve its goals. We are built on strong morals and values. Were a melting pot of people who came to this country with nothing and turned it into a dream. Were an ambitious and powerful group of people. I much rather move "backwards" into prosperity. Proud conservative!!!

The Republican Party is 90% white and thinks education is for snobs.

This is not a recipe for "prosperity", but it is a recipe for going "backwards".

 

[Peach]

SURPRISE! The GOP is a big part OF American rdean.

 

[whitehall]

We put a man on the moon during a GOP administration. JFK gets credit in the uneducated liberal mind but he was just hot air.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If the US is number one in science and technology, what place does the GOP have?

Seriously, we know from Rick Santorum what they think about education. Since it was founded, the US has always been innovative. This is a country that's never "moved backward". American has always been innovative, forward thinking and progressive.

Include the fact that Conservatives have at least 42 amendments to the constitution and the question is, "Do they really want to live here"?

Thought this might interest you, deanie....but you better be sitting down.

"Less than two months after his inauguration, Mr Obama issued an executive order “removing [Bush’s] barriers to responsible scientific research involving human stem cells” and “directing the head of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy to develop a strategy for restoring scientific integrity to government decision making”…. Finally we had a president who would open the floodgates of government funding for human embryonic stem cell research.

Myth 1: Bush banned federal funding of hESC (human embryonic stem cell ) research. (Some people even thought that he outlawed the research itself.)
(1) from President Obama’s address on March 9, 2009: “we will lift the ban on federal funding for promising embryonic stem cell research.”
(2) from the media: “President Obama lifted the eight-year-old ban on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research yesterday…” – Washington Post, March 10, 2009
(3) from progressive websites: “With the stroke of a pen, President Barack Obama today erased the Bush administration’s eight-year-old restrictions on federal funding of research involving human embryonic stem cells, reaffirming his commitment to evidence and biomedical hope over his predecessor’s ideological distortion of science.” – Science Progress
(4) from bioethicists: "After eight years of zero-budget funding of embryonic stem cell research, it is hardly fair and completely disingenuous for critics to point to the practice and wonder why it lags four decades behind government-funded adult stem cell research," -- Art Caplan, University of Pennsylvania
Fact 1: Bush was the first to initiate the federal funding of hESC research.

Myth 2: Bush was a foe of science and stem cell research.
Supporting evidence:
(1) The signing of Obama’s executive order was “a momentous occasion for anyone who believes in the pursuit of biomedical knowledge for the betterment of human health." -- Harvard Stem Cell Institute researcher George Daley.
(2) "This marks a new era for stem cell research. It will not only impact research in the laboratory, but perhaps more importantly, it finally lifts the black cloud that has hovered over this research for so long. We have been operating for the last decade with one hand tied behind our back," -- Robert Lanza, science director of Advanced Cell Technologies.
(3) “Bush’s approach to the issue of embryonic stem cell research… showed a deep disregard for the role of scientific information in political decision-making.” -- Chris Mooney, The Republican War On Science
Fact 2: The NIH stem cell budget grew by leaps and bounds under Bush.

Myth 3: President Obama has greatly increased funding for human embryonic stem cell research.
Supporting evidence:
(1) “The order was issued just in time for researchers to take advantage of money in Mr. Obama's economic recovery package and use it for stem cell studies.” - NYTimes
(2) “The President's [March 9, 2009] decision does much more than expand funding for stem-cell research. It heralds a shift in the government's view of science, ushering in an era in which it promises to defend science — and the pursuit of useful treatments — against ideology.” – Time, March 9, 2009
Fact 3: Stem cell scientists are still waiting for the river of gold. Even though Obama removed Bush’s restrictions on federal funds for hESC research, he has barely increased the hESC budget.
MercatorNet: Barack, can you spare a dime?

 

[Navy1960]

We put a man on the moon during a GOP administration. JFK gets credit in the uneducated liberal mind but he was just hot air.

Nixon was sworn into office on Jan. 20th 1969, and Apollo 11 Landed on the Moon on July 20th 1969 6 months after Nixon taking office. Prior to that time, Apollo 7, Apollo 8 which Circumnavigated the moon, had flown, and that does not include the entire Gemini program or Mercury program that led up to that. So while your statement is while true to a degree it does not take all the above factors into consideration and also seems to imply that all the work to get to the moon was done in a period of 6 months and was the sole credit of a GOP Administration which it clearly was not.

On May 25, 1961, President John F. Kennedy announced before a special joint session of Congress the dramatic and ambitious goal of sending an American safely to the Moon before the end of the decade.

The Decision to Go to the Moon: President John F. Kennedy's May 25, 1961 Speech before Congress

Sp perhaps the best thing here would be to say, that what started as a means to catch up to Russia by Eisenhower (GOP) and moved forward as a vision to go to the moon by a Kennedy ( Dem) and concluded with a Nixon (GOP). Was in the end an AMERICAN achievement regardless of what political party one might have belonged too.

 

[theunbubba]

If the US is number one in science and technology, what place does the GOP have?

Seriously, we know from Rick Santorum what they think about education. Since it was founded, the US has always been innovative. This is a country that's never "moved backward". American has always been innovative, forward thinking and progressive.

Include the fact that Conservatives have at least 42 amendments to the constitution and the question is, "Do they really want to live here"?

Why don't you tell it to the parents in DC that wanted to keep their kids in the system the democrats took away from their children? That republican solution to bad scores that was improving grades and increasing hope among the poor.

Yeah, keep lying rdean, keep lying.

 

[theunbubba]

We put a man on the moon during a GOP administration. JFK gets credit in the uneducated liberal mind but he was just hot air.

Nixon was sworn into office on Jan. 20th 1969, and Apollo 11 Landed on the Moon on July 20th 1969 6 months after Nixon taking office. Prior to that time, Apollo 7, Apollo 8 which Circumnavigated the moon, had flown, and that does not include the entire Gemini program or Mercury program that led up to that. So while your statement is while true to a degree it does not take all the above factors into consideration and also seems to imply that all the work to get to the moon was done in a period of 6 months and was the sole credit of a GOP Administration which it clearly was not.

On May 25, 1961, President John F. Kennedy announced before a special joint session of Congress the dramatic and ambitious goal of sending an American safely to the Moon before the end of the decade.

The Decision to Go to the Moon: President John F. Kennedy's May 25, 1961 Speech before Congress

Sp perhaps the best thing here would be to say, that what started as a means to catch up to Russia by Eisenhower (GOP) and moved forward as a vision to go to the moon by a Kennedy ( Dem) and concluded with a Nixon (GOP). Was in the end an AMERICAN achievement regardless of what political party one might have belonged too.

And yet Nixon was the one that got the Shuttle going. Obama ended it.

 

[daveman]

If the US is number one in science and technology, what place does the GOP have?

Seriously, we know from Rick Santorum what they think about education. Since it was founded, the US has always been innovative. This is a country that's never "moved backward". American has always been innovative, forward thinking and progressive.

Include the fact that Conservatives have at least 42 amendments to the constitution and the question is, "Do they really want to live here"?

Were a nation that works to achieve its goals. We are built on strong morals and values. Were a melting pot of people who came to this country with nothing and turned it into a dream. Were an ambitious and powerful group of people. I much rather move "backwards" into prosperity. Proud conservative!!!

The Republican Party is 90% white and thinks education is for snobs.

This is not a recipe for "prosperity", but it is a recipe for going "backwards".

I've seen the progressive vision for America:

The Soviet Union, circa 1958.

Yeah, that's "progress", Comrade.

 

[Navy1960]

We put a man on the moon during a GOP administration. JFK gets credit in the uneducated liberal mind but he was just hot air.

Nixon was sworn into office on Jan. 20th 1969, and Apollo 11 Landed on the Moon on July 20th 1969 6 months after Nixon taking office. Prior to that time, Apollo 7, Apollo 8 which Circumnavigated the moon, had flown, and that does not include the entire Gemini program or Mercury program that led up to that. So while your statement is while true to a degree it does not take all the above factors into consideration and also seems to imply that all the work to get to the moon was done in a period of 6 months and was the sole credit of a GOP Administration which it clearly was not.

On May 25, 1961, President John F. Kennedy announced before a special joint session of Congress the dramatic and ambitious goal of sending an American safely to the Moon before the end of the decade.

The Decision to Go to the Moon: President John F. Kennedy's May 25, 1961 Speech before Congress

Sp perhaps the best thing here would be to say, that what started as a means to catch up to Russia by Eisenhower (GOP) and moved forward as a vision to go to the moon by a Kennedy ( Dem) and concluded with a Nixon (GOP). Was in the end an AMERICAN achievement regardless of what political party one might have belonged too.

And yet Nixon was the one that got the Shuttle going. Obama ended it.

The Space Shuttle Program lasted from 1981 till 2011 and in that time both (GOP) and (DEM) Administrations allowed NASA to fly the Space Shuttle with no follow plans for a replacement. In fact over the years from Shuttle C to the Orion program NASA has allowed itself while flying the Shuttle to come to point where the Oribiter had become so old and had no follow manned vehicle to replace it. In order to do so, it required both a commitment from NASA, the Adminstrations from Nixon through Obama, Congress both (Dem) and ( GOP) and the American people. The sad fact is over those years it was a commitment that we as Americans were NOT willing to make, and add to that a clear lack of vision on the part of NASA and an over commitment to the Space Shuttle and you have us where we are today. Your not advocating flying the shuttle for more years are you at the risk of another Shuttle breaking apart due to its age. So you know these Orbiters were not designed to fly forever and 20 plus years is a good long life span for such a device. So now we find ourselves having to rent rides from Russia while we wait for the likes of Space X and others to renew our manned space program. Space X btw will launch its first flight to the ISS ( International Space Station) in the coming weeks. So in the end perhaps laying the blame at Obama's feet might be a little bit much when you consider that the demise of the Manned Space program was a long time coming and was the result of poor NASA Adminstration and both (GOP) and (DEM) neglect. In the end while Americans were responsbile for going to the moon they are also responsible for grounding the rockets that will fly to space.

 

[Samson]

Nixon was sworn into office on Jan. 20th 1969, and Apollo 11 Landed on the Moon on July 20th 1969 6 months after Nixon taking office. Prior to that time, Apollo 7, Apollo 8 which Circumnavigated the moon, had flown, and that does not include the entire Gemini program or Mercury program that led up to that. So while your statement is while true to a degree it does not take all the above factors into consideration and also seems to imply that all the work to get to the moon was done in a period of 6 months and was the sole credit of a GOP Administration which it clearly was not.

On May 25, 1961, President John F. Kennedy announced before a special joint session of Congress the dramatic and ambitious goal of sending an American safely to the Moon before the end of the decade.

The Decision to Go to the Moon: President John F. Kennedy's May 25, 1961 Speech before Congress

Sp perhaps the best thing here would be to say, that what started as a means to catch up to Russia by Eisenhower (GOP) and moved forward as a vision to go to the moon by a Kennedy ( Dem) and concluded with a Nixon (GOP). Was in the end an AMERICAN achievement regardless of what political party one might have belonged too.

And yet Nixon was the one that got the Shuttle going. Obama ended it.

The Space Shuttle Program lasted from 1981 till 2011 and in that time both (GOP) and (DEM) Administrations allowed NASA to fly the Space Shuttle with no follow plans for a replacement. In fact over the years from Shuttle C to the Orion program NASA has allowed itself while flying the Shuttle to come to point where the Oribiter had become so old and had no follow manned vehicle to replace it. In order to do so, it required both a commitment from NASA, the Adminstrations from Nixon through Obama, Congress both (Dem) and ( GOP) and the American people. The sad fact is over those years it was a commitment that we as Americans were NOT willing to make, and add to that a clear lack of vision on the part of NASA and an over commitment to the Space Shuttle and you have us where we are today. Your not advocating flying the shuttle for more years are you at the risk of another Shuttle breaking apart due to its age. So you know these Orbiters were not designed to fly forever and 20 plus years is a good long life span for such a device. So now we find ourselves having to rent rides from Russia while we wait for the likes of Space X and others to renew our manned space program. Space X btw will launch its first flight to the ISS ( International Space Station) in the coming weeks. So in the end perhaps laying the blame at Obama's feet might be a little bit much when you consider that the demise of the Manned Space program was a long time coming and was the result of poor NASA Adminstration and both (GOP) and (DEM) neglect. In the end while Americans were responsbile for going to the moon they are also responsible for grounding the rockets that will fly to space.

The end of the Manned Space program was based on the fact that there is no purpose for men in space, and it is very expensive.

Simple.

What is astonishing is that more worthless and expensive government programs cannot follow the example.

 

[Katzndogz]

We aren't developing a work force necessary to keep us at #1 in science and technology. We've lost a lot of ground already.

Democrats have already said that the US will not be Number one, so it's not what place the GOP has, but the place the democrats INTEND.

Crisis for US science is looming, physicists warn | Fox News

White House Science

The Obama administration’s top science and technology official, who has argued for the economic de-development of America, warned science students last Friday that the United States cannot expect to be “number one” forever.

The place the GOP has, is to continue to fight the democrats to maintain scientific and technological leadership while the democrats pursue de-development.

 

[Political Junky]

It would help if public high schools taught real science. Creationism won't help our students advance in the world of science.

 

[daveman]

It would help if public high schools taught real science. Creationism won't help our students advance in the world of science.

Neither will telling them that it's okay to get test answers wrong -- what's important is their feelings, or that there are no losers and everyone gets a medal for participating, even if they don't do anything.

Meanwhile, creationism isn't being taught. The current sad state of education can be laid squarely at the feet the the left.

You got lots of participation medals, didn't you?

 

[rdean]

We aren't developing a work force necessary to keep us at #1 in science and technology. We've lost a lot of ground already.

Democrats have already said that the US will not be Number one, so it's not what place the GOP has, but the place the democrats INTEND.

Crisis for US science is looming, physicists warn | Fox News

White House Science

The Obama administration’s top science and technology official, who has argued for the economic de-development of America, warned science students last Friday that the United States cannot expect to be “number one” forever.

The place the GOP has, is to continue to fight the democrats to maintain scientific and technological leadership while the democrats pursue de-development.

Did you bother to read the articles you linked to?

Wilczek said that both America's immigration laws and its cultural attitudes toward foreigners could be more welcoming.
And the physicists acknowledged that scientists will have to confront a hard reality: There is simply less money for research in the current economy.

(How long have I been saying Republicans hatred of immigrants will hurt science here since Republicans feel education is for snobs?)

I especially liked this part:

The former Harvard professor was at the AAAS to speak to students about the Obama administration’s priority of advancing science and technology issues; its goal to increase spending in the area to 3 percent of the gross domestic product; and Obama’s great personal interest in the fields.

Now this is especially hilarious. The AAAS is the organization PEW research used to gather data that led to the conclusion that only a measly 6% of scientists are Republican. Remember all the TERRIBLE things right wingers said about that organization????

And what political party is slashing education nationwide? Remember, it's one thing to cut education to keep the state from going under, another to cut it to give tax breaks to millionaires.

This is hilarious.

 

[rdean]

It would help if public high schools taught real science. Creationism won't help our students advance in the world of science.

Neither will telling them that it's okay to get test answers wrong -- what's important is their feelings, or that there are no losers and everyone gets a medal for participating, even if they don't do anything.

Meanwhile, creationism isn't being taught. The current sad state of education can be laid squarely at the feet the the left.

You got lots of participation medals, didn't you?

You can bet that parents that want this part of the school curriculum are indoctrinating their children at home. Get enough kids saying education is for snobs and scientists are liars, they all will be saying it. Except, possibly the children of scientists. A very small minority.

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