If the GOP retains the Senate should they block EVERYTHING Biden tries to do that isn’t conservative?

[daveman]

Leftists demand conservatives do the things they're not willing to do themselves.

Fuck 'em.

But remember, the Democrat definition of "bipartisan" is "shut the fuck up and do what we tell you".

Thought that was the Republican definition.

Maybe there isn't much difference in the end.

Uh huh.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

RESISTANCE!

And all that shit bro....


Or no?

20M+ out of work on Trump's watch. Healthcare pushed to the brink of collapse.

Not doing something is as dangerous as being seen as working with the new administration.

The Senate has 2X as many red seats up as blue seats; 5 are in vulnerable states (WI, PA, NC, GA (possibly) and FL).

Might or might not happen.

What will happen is that we will take the house in 2022

 

[jbrownson0831]

The parties SHOULD work together like intelligent adults who place country over party. Communicate, collaborate, innovate. Create new ideas together so that they all have skin in the game.

We don't do that in America any more. That was before.

That's OUR fault.

When the left now has the federal government spending 20 to 25% of all GDP, the stakes are too high to let anyone else be in control.

And yes, that is our fucking fault.

We got there from the actions of an orange grifter.

Such a statement would be stupid.

Trump is the result of the divide, not the cause.

Who are you crappin? trump is the source of all this BS.

Baloney and a typical response

 

[otto105]

RESISTANCE!

And all that shit bro....


Or no?

You mean like they did with Obama?

It's got to stop at some point.

Why ?

Not good for us.

Good for me.

in what way is this non stop gridlock good for you?

The less the federal government does or gets involved in.....THE BETTER.

Everything they touch outside of their prescribed purview, turns to shit.

Like Medicare, Social Security or the Military? Maybe you should request the Russian vaccine...

 

[daveman]

What does "conservative" mean? Lately it has simply meant whatever Trump says it means.

If you'd like to know what it means, ask a conservative. DON'T ask a fellow leftist, because they always get it wrong.

 

[daveman]

RESISTANCE!

And all that shit bro....


Or no?

You mean like they did with Obama?

It's got to stop at some point.

Why ?

Not good for us.

Good for me.

in what way is this non stop gridlock good for you?

Rule of thumb: The fewer laws passed, the better for Americans.

 

[daveman]

RESISTANCE!

And all that shit bro....


Or no?

You mean like they did with Obama?

It's got to stop at some point.

Why ?

Not good for us.

Good for me.

in what way is this non stop gridlock good for you?

It stops the left from progressing their socialism.

And it stops the right from progressing their fascism.

So what next?

How is it you expect to be taken seriously with horseshit like that?

 

[Coyote]

RESISTANCE!

And all that shit bro....


Or no?

Of course. Make Biden put up, or shut up. If wants to unify the country, if the Dems want that - they're gonna have to propose legislation everyone can get behind, not just their base.

Healthcare, pandemic relief, infrastructure...

 

[Skylar]

RESISTANCE!

And all that shit bro....


Or no?

As long as you're cool with a Democratically controlled Senate never confirming a single federal judge or cabinet member under a Republican president under any circumstances......game on!

Otherwise, maybe reserve your resistence to more rational objections. Like say, qualifications.

 

[Coyote]

RESISTANCE!

And all that shit bro....


Or no?

You mean like they did with Obama?

It's got to stop at some point.

Why ?

Not good for us.

Good for me.

in what way is this non stop gridlock good for you?

It stops the left from progressing their socialism.

And it stops the right from progressing their fascism.

So what next?

How is it you expect to be taken seriously with horseshit like that?

I've learned it's a waste of time to reply to horse shit with anything but more horse shit.

 

[daveman]

RESISTANCE!

And all that shit bro....


Or no?

You mean like they did with Obama?

It's got to stop at some point.

Why ?

Not good for us.

Good for me.

in what way is this non stop gridlock good for you?

It stops the left from progressing their socialism.

And it stops the right from progressing their fascism.

So what next?

How is it you expect to be taken seriously with horseshit like that?

I've learned it's a waste of time to reply to horse shit with anything but more horse shit.

Well, that's handy for you, isn't it? Anything that makes you uncomfortable, just call it horseshit and flounce off.

 

[Mac1958]

The parties SHOULD work together like intelligent adults who place country over party. Communicate, collaborate, innovate. Create new ideas together so that they all have skin in the game.

We don't do that in America any more. That was before.

That's OUR fault.

We used to have people in Congress like that. They were called "statesmen".

They knew how to make deals, and where compromise was possible to achieve a better end. Now it's all or nothing.

I'm not holding my breath on this, but I do think Biden has the capacity to make real progress. He was around before things went so tribal. The problem is he has to overcome the fucking bases that have wrecked both parties and turned them into freak shows.

I'll cross my fingers, just a little.

 

[Coyote]

RESISTANCE!

And all that shit bro....


Or no?

You mean like they did with Obama?

It's got to stop at some point.

Why ?

Not good for us.

Good for me.

in what way is this non stop gridlock good for you?

It stops the left from progressing their socialism.

And it stops the right from progressing their fascism.

So what next?

How is it you expect to be taken seriously with horseshit like that?

I've learned it's a waste of time to reply to horse shit with anything but more horse shit.

Well, that's handy for you, isn't it? Anything that makes you uncomfortable, just call it horseshit and flounce off.

Who's flouncing off?

 

[eddiew37]

RESISTANCE!

And all that shit bro....


Or no?

Like you assholes did with Obama ? You're experts at that bs

 

[eddiew37]

RESISTANCE!

And all that shit bro....


Or no?

You mean like they did with Obama?

It's got to stop at some point.

Sure won't with McConnell as senate leader

 

[eddiew37]

Leftists demand conservatives do the things they're not willing to do themselves.

Fuck 'em.

But remember, the Democrat definition of "bipartisan" is "shut the fuck up and do what we tell you".

Thought that was the Republican definition.

Maybe there isn't much difference in the end.

Uh huh.

Like getting bone spurs and not going when your country calls?

 

[dblack]

RESISTANCE!

And all that shit bro....


Or no?

That depends entirely on what you mean by "conservative".

It would be a step in the right direction if he just pushed for non-partisan reforms. I don't expect him to become a libertarian, but there are plenty of issues, and solutions to those issues, that have broad appeal.

• Criminal Justice reform: Get rid of privately run prisons. Government shouldn't be outsourcing its dirty work.
• Demilitarize the police: Don't "defund" them. Pay cops more, and fire them at the first hint of abuse.
• End the drug war: plenty of people, on all sides, are coming to the realization it was a bad idea.
• Tax reform: get rid of all the incentives and deductions, and simplify the tax code.
• College debt: End government-sponsored, predatory lending to hapless students.
• Pandemic response: We need to codify how government should respond to serious pandemics - with carefully designed constraints on that power. It should more than governors shooting from the hip.
• China policy: Biden could earn a lot of respect from R's, and the rest of us, if he played hardball with China. Hold them accountable for launching COVID-19 on the world.
• Election reform: Trump's feckless whining notwithstanding, our election system is a mess. And I'm not talking about the EC or other partisan issues. I'm talking about the simple mechanics of how it works. We should know who won the Presidential election by 10:00pm the night of. Even during a pandemic.

There are many, many other issue were we could all find some agreement. D's and R's don't try because they define themselves in opposition. They focus on the differences, and scaring people with those differences, because it what drives their respective bases. But neither side should govern that way. Seeking broad consensus makes for better, more stable, government.

 

[JWBooth]

The parties SHOULD work together like intelligent adults who place country over party. Communicate, collaborate, innovate. Create new ideas together so that they all have skin in the game.

We don't do that in America any more. That was before.

That's OUR fault.

Ahhh the good old days when the GOP stood for nothing, bent over and sold out.

 

[Crepitus]

RESISTANCE!

And all that shit bro....


Or no?

That depends entirely on what you mean by "conservative".

It would be a step in the right direction if he just pushed for non-partisan reforms. I don't expect him to become a libertarian, but there are plenty of issues, and solutions to those issues, that have broad appeal.

• Criminal Justice reform: Get rid of privately run prisons. Government shouldn't be outsourcing its dirty work.
• Demilitarize the police: Don't "defund" them. Pay cops more, and fire them at the first hint of abuse.
• End the drug war: plenty of people, on all sides, are coming to the realization it was a bad idea.
• Tax reform: get rid of all the incentives and deductions, and simplify the tax code.
• College debt: End government-sponsored, predatory lending to hapless students.
• Pandemic response: We need to codify how government should respond to serious pandemics - with carefully designed constraints on that power. It should more than governors shooting from the hip.
• China policy: Biden could earn a lot of respect from R's, and the rest of us, if he played hardball with China. Hold them accountable for launching COVID-19 on the world.
• Election reform: Regardless of Trump's feckless whining, our election system is a mess. And I'm not talking about the EC or other partisan issues. I'm talking about the simple mechanics of how it works. We should know who won the Presidential election by 10:00pm the night of. Even during a pandemic.

There are many, many other issue were we could all find some agreement. D's and R's don't try because they define themselves in opposition. They focus on the differences, and scaring people with those differences, because it what drives their respective bases. But neither side should govern that way. Seeking broad consensus makes for better, more stable, government.

I'm ok with most of that.

China didn't "unleash the epidemic", that's just a conspiracy theory.

Elections have always been certified just the way they are being now.

 

[dblack]

RESISTANCE!

And all that shit bro....


Or no?

That depends entirely on what you mean by "conservative".

It would be a step in the right direction if he just pushed for non-partisan reforms. I don't expect him to become a libertarian, but there are plenty of issues, and solutions to those issues, that have broad appeal.

• Criminal Justice reform: Get rid of privately run prisons. Government shouldn't be outsourcing its dirty work.
• Demilitarize the police: Don't "defund" them. Pay cops more, and fire them at the first hint of abuse.
• End the drug war: plenty of people, on all sides, are coming to the realization it was a bad idea.
• Tax reform: get rid of all the incentives and deductions, and simplify the tax code.
• College debt: End government-sponsored, predatory lending to hapless students.
• Pandemic response: We need to codify how government should respond to serious pandemics - with carefully designed constraints on that power. It should more than governors shooting from the hip.
• China policy: Biden could earn a lot of respect from R's, and the rest of us, if he played hardball with China. Hold them accountable for launching COVID-19 on the world.
• Election reform: Regardless of Trump's feckless whining, our election system is a mess. And I'm not talking about the EC or other partisan issues. I'm talking about the simple mechanics of how it works. We should know who won the Presidential election by 10:00pm the night of. Even during a pandemic.

There are many, many other issue were we could all find some agreement. D's and R's don't try because they define themselves in opposition. They focus on the differences, and scaring people with those differences, because it what drives their respective bases. But neither side should govern that way. Seeking broad consensus makes for better, more stable, government.

I'm ok with most of that.

China didn't "unleash the epidemic", that's just a conspiracy theory.

I don't mean they pushed it out there. But they hid the truth, actively suppressed it, from the rest of the world until it was too late. That's well documented, not a conspiracy theory.

Elections have always been certified just the way they are being now.

Yes, and it's high time the process was modernized. Many third world countries have better run, and more secure, elections than we do. We need to bring our system into the 21st century. Point is, it's not a partisan issue.