If State Legislators/Governor Won't Enact Rent Control, Vote Them Out

[Concerned American]

You change the subject and then call me a moron. LOL/

You made the statement, "Most states with bans on rent control are blue states." I didn't change the subject moron. You did. I just responded to it by showing you that the only statest WITH rent control are blue states. Please keep up with your own thread-

If not one single state or city hadB rent control, I would still advocate it

Yeah, Marxists are like that--Newsflash, it doesn't work and never will.

Islam should be banned in America ?

You just keep doubling down. Now you're anti-first amendment too? Keep on talking, Ivan.

And that it actually already is banned by the Constitution, which bans all supremacisms (other than the Constitution itself of course).

Again with attacks on the first amendment. Seems Christianity has a commandment that says something along the lines of "you shall have no other God before me?" Anything else, I think you meant to call yourself a "prog"

 

[Concerned American]

Here are some more victims of landlord greed & rent increases$$$$$$.

Or the increases in fuel prices. Or the increases in grocery prices. Or the increases in lumber prices. Or the increases in furniture prices. It's called inflation. Get used to it--it is fed by putting too much money into the economy with nothing to support it and yeah, it is exacerbated by social give-away programs like rent control. PARASITE.

 

[Anathema]

Who cares what he said ?

Because it’s pertinent to the conversation. I agree with him, and I think a lot of other property managers would, too.

These people are not going to artificially limit their revenue streans simply because the government tells them they should. They’d rather get out of the business entirely, leaving folks like you homeless than do that.

 

[Andylusion]

Oh, they did that about 10 or 12 years ago. We're just finally recovering.

Look up Sam Brownback and the great red state experiment.

He pretty much totaled the whole state's economy.

No it didn't. It did not "total the whole state's economy". Ridiculous idiotic nonsense. I'm not even going to debate something so dumb. If you think the entire state crashed, you are too uninformed to talk on this.

 

[Andylusion]

Sounds darn good. Where is it ?

Note though that rent control is not needed for places like that. It is needed for ones like my building where the owners get a tax break from the govt for renting to elderly, low income,and disabled folks, and still they gouge us with a $96/month increase.

And now after rent control is in your area, your rent prices have declined or stayed the same?
What city is that?

 

[Andylusion]

Sure. 1924 to 2024. The building I was raised in, in the Fort George neighborhood of upper Manhattan (New York City) was built in 1908,
And I lived in it from 1946 to 1967 (visited it until 1977). Never heard of any shortages of anything. Same with dozens of other buildings throughout the neignborhood. All rent controlled, no shortages, no buildings abandoned. Everything now as it was 75 years ago.

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This is a recent picture of the street (Ellwood St - 197 St) that I grew up in, in the 1940s & 50s. If this picture were taken then, it wouldn't look one iota different than it looks right here in the 2020s.

In case anybody's interested, the castle at the top of the picture is "The Cloisters" which is a castle/monestary imported from France/Spain, and built at the top of Fort Tryon Park It is the medieval branch of the New York Metropolitan Museum of Art.

And yet that area has insane rent prices. $3,400 for a 750 sqft 2-bed apartment?

That's insane. All rent controlled? Because if that's rent controlled, then your rent control failed.
I'm not seeing that your system is working well. And by the way, that would be why you don't see abandoned buildings, when they are able to charge $3,400 a month for a 2-bed apartment. Yeah, they are still renting that for sure.

 

[Andylusion]

Off Topic

That was not off stop at all. I made a great point you can't answer.

 

[Andylusion]

You change the subject and then call me a moron. LOL/

Back to the subject, moron. > Most state with bans on rent control )(not the ones that HAVE IT), are blue states. Got it now ?

Also, this whole idea of who has rent control and who doesn't, is moot. If not one single state or city had rent control, I would still advocate it for any rental housing where renters are being gouged, and businesses are being damaged by reduced sales.

But it does not work. Even your own example shows it doesn't work. You pointed to rent control in Fort George, Manhattan, and prices there are absolutely insane. $3,400 a month for a 750 sqft 2-bed apartment, is INSANE.

Here in Ohio with no rent control, a 1,200 sqft 2-bed, and 2-bath apartment costs $1,800, and that is in the middle of the city.

Rent control never works. Never has. Never will.

 

[Andylusion]

Conservative republican has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with rent control. In fact, since conservative Republicans are very supportive of the business community, and rent control is so damaging to business, it could easily be said that rent control is a policy that should be FAVORED by the business community and Republicans.

Own a business ? How much are you losing by the recent massive increases in rental housing ? A friend of mine here in Tampa, saw his rent jump from $750/mo to $2,000/mo over the past 3 years , and this is common.

A LOSS of $1,250/mo for not only him, but for the furniture store that he could/would have made purchases at. The car dealer where he would have bought a car. The music store where he was going to buy a guitar. WalMart or Best Buy where he would have bought a new TV, etc etc.

As far as claiming to be a conservative Republican, aren't you one of the ones who argued against my idea that Islam should be banned in America ? And that it actually already is banned by the Constitution, which bans all supremacisms (other than the Constitution itself of course).

And then you put in place rent control, and prices go even higher to $3,400 for a 750 sqft 2-bed apartment in your own city with rent control.

Now explain again why we should be in favor of this?

 

[Andylusion]

Here are some more victims of landlord greed & rent increases$$$$$$.

Off topic. No relevance to the conversation.

 

[Crepitus]

No it didn't. It did not "total the whole state's economy". Ridiculous idiotic nonsense. I'm not even going to debate something so dumb. If you think the entire state crashed, you are too uninformed to talk on this.

Look it up Son. It's real.

 

[Andylusion]

Look it up Son. It's real.

I did, 'son'. And you have no freakin clue what you are talking about. Stop lying. If you are uninformed, know your place, and stop talking about things you are uninformed about.

 

[protectionist]

You made the statement, "Most states with bans on rent control are blue states." I didn't change the subject moron. You did. I just responded to it by showing you that the only statest WITH rent control are blue states. Please keep up with your own thread-

Yeah, Marxists are like that--Newsflash, it doesn't work and never will.

You just keep doubling down. Now you're anti-first amendment too? Keep on talking, Ivan.

Again with attacks on the first amendment. Seems Christianity has a commandment that says something along the lines of "you shall have no other God before me?" Anything else, I think you meant to call yourself a "prog"

And THAT is how you changed the subject, Mr Deflection. I was talking about states with BANS on rent control. You changed the subject to states that HAVE rent control. 2 DIFFERENT things.

Now, since your words are so discombobulated, I can't even ascertain what they hell you're talking about. I'm not opposed to the first amendment at all. You must be dreaming.

 

[protectionist]

Because it’s pertinent to the conversation. I agree with him, and I think a lot of other property managers would, too.

These people are not going to artificially limit their revenue streans simply because the government tells them they should. They’d rather get out of the business entirely, leaving folks like you homeless than do that.

If they can't control their costs, without dumping them on others, they never should have got into business to begin with.

 

[protectionist]

And now after rent control is in your area, your rent prices have declined or stayed the same?
What city is that?

For one example - New York - for 100 years. Limited to small increases.

 

[protectionist]

And yet that area has insane rent prices. $3,400 for a 750 sqft 2-bed apartment?

That's insane. All rent controlled? Because if that's rent controlled, then your rent control failed.
I'm not seeing that your system is working well. And by the way, that would be why you don't see abandoned buildings, when they are able to charge $3,400 a month for a 2-bed apartment. Yeah, they are still renting that for sure.

I don't know what the rents are in that neighborhood, now so I am not going to enter into discussion of specific rents.

If you are trying to say that there is rent control where apartments are $3,400 for a 750 sqft 2-bed apartment, you're not going to get very far with that.

I will simply say that IF any apartment is renting for $3,400 for a 750 sqft 2-bed apartment, then it obviously is not under any normal control law, and likely hasn't been for quite some time.

I will also say AGAIN that when I lived in a rent controlled apartment for 21 years, and I moved out, the rent was $85/month. 10 years later, it was only $97/mo, as the increases were limited to 3% per year.

 

[protectionist]

But it does not work. Even your own example shows it doesn't work. You pointed to rent control in Fort George, Manhattan, and prices there are absolutely insane. $3,400 a month for a 750 sqft 2-bed apartment, is INSANE.

Here in Ohio with no rent control, a 1,200 sqft 2-bed, and 2-bath apartment costs $1,800, and that is in the middle of the city.

Rent control never works. Never has. Never will.

Look fool. And I call you a fool, because you're coming in here trying to say that an apartment that is renting for $3,400/mo is under rent control. OMG. How stupid can you be ? You think anybody is going to be snookerd by that ? Get a grip.

$3,400/mo is not rent control, it is rent UNcontrol.

 

[Concerned American]

And THAT is how you changed the subject, Mr Deflection. I was talking about states with BANS on rent control. You changed the subject to states that HAVE rent control. 2 DIFFERENT things.

Now, since your words are so discombobulated, I can't even ascertain what they hell you're talking about. I'm not opposed to the first amendment at all. You must be dreaming.

What is the reciprocal of a ban, moron. Just STFU. You're an idiot. Go back to NYC or one of the other four democrat shitholes that you love so much and quit whining about someone making an honest living. You're nothing but a useless parasite.

 

[protectionist]

What is the reciprocal of a ban, moron. Just STFU. You're an idiot. Go back to NYC or one of the other four democrat shitholes that you love so much and quit whining about someone making an honest living. You're nothing but a useless parasite.

The reciprocal of a ban is ANOTHER SUBJECT, Mr Deflection.

nd you have some gall to come in here and spout about " making an honest living" when you don't give a rat's ass about the millions of business owners (99.999% of them) whose sales are drastically reduced because of landlords raising rents to unheard of levels,

Every dollar those landlords pocket, is another dollar taken away from every other business in America, but you not worried about that at all, Mr UNconcerned American. (or you're such an idiot, it never even occured to you).

 

[Concerned American]

The reciprocal of a ban is ANOTHER SUBJECT, Mr Deflection.

nd you have some gall to come in here and spout about " making an honest living" when you don't give a rat's ass about the millions of business owners (99.999% of them) whose sales are drastically reduced because of landlords raising rents to unheard of levels,

Every dollar those landlords pocket, is another dollar taken away from every other business in America, but you not worried about that at all, Mr UNconcerned American. (or you're such an idiot, it never even occured to you).

Talk of being off topic is a deflection and a poor one at that, moron. You've lost it. Along with being 77, you are also senile and sounding like you are suffering the same level of dementia that Biden suffers. STFU, RUN ALONG AND PAY YOUR RENT.