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If Stalin - Hitler´s Devils' Alliance held, Could these 2 Asiatic despots conquer the Europe (Northern Africa?) ? What USA and Britain ´d do?

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If Stalin - Hitler´s Devils' Alliance held, Could these 2 Asiatic (1) despots conquer the Europe (Northern Africa?) ? and What USA and Britain ´d do?

The Devils' Alliance: Hitler's Pact with Stalin, 1939-1941 ...

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6 Aug 2014 — Seventy-five years ago, on 23 August 1939, Hitler's Germany and Stalin's Russia stunned the world by announcing that they had concluded a ...


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Unofficially it has also been referred to as the HitlerStalin Pact, Nazi–Soviet Pact or Nazi–Soviet Alliance (although it was not a formal alliance). Its clauses ...
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German–Soviet Axis talks - Wikipedia​

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German–Soviet Axis talks occurred in October and November 1940 concerning the Soviet ... Stalin proposed a toast to Hitler, and Stalin and Soviet Foreign Minister ... He had not yet abandoned the possibility of other political outcomes and still talked of a "great worldwide coalition that stretched from Yokohama to Spain", ...

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"Both Hitler and Himmler had a soft spot for Islam. Hitler several times fantasized that, if the Saracens had not been stopped at the Battle of Tours, Islam would have spread through the European continent—and that would have been a good thing, since “Jewish Christianity” wouldn’t have gone on to poison Europe. Christianity doted on weakness and suffering, while Islam extolled strength, Hitler believed. Himmler in a January 1944 speech called Islam “a practical and attractive religion for soldiers,” with its promise of paradise and beautiful women for brave martyrs after their death. “This is the kind of language a soldier understands,” Himmler gushed."
 

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Yes they would have conquered Europe. Britain (Rothchild) was so desperate for the USA to enter the war they sent their military intelligence propaganda team to the USA/NYC and Rockefeller gave them 2 floors of free office space.
 
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Yes they would have conquered Europe. Britain (Rothchild) was so desperate for the USA to enter the war they sent their military intelligence propaganda team to the USA/NYC and Rockefeller gave them 2 floors of free office space.
How maps of Europe and MENA´d look like ? what koba is gonna get ?
 

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Yes they would have conquered Europe. Britain (Rothchild) was so desperate for the USA to enter the war they sent their military intelligence propaganda team to the USA/NYC and Rockefeller gave them 2 floors of free office space.
How maps of Europe and MENA´d look like ? what koba is gonna get ?
Germany controls the bulk of Europe and the plan was for Italy to control N. Africa.
 
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Yes they would have conquered Europe. Britain (Rothchild) was so desperate for the USA to enter the war they sent their military intelligence propaganda team to the USA/NYC and Rockefeller gave them 2 floors of free office space.
How maps of Europe and MENA´d look like ? what koba is gonna get ?
Germany controls the bulk of Europe and the plan was for Italy to control N. Africa.
whats about koba?
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Yes they would have conquered Europe. Britain (Rothchild) was so desperate for the USA to enter the war they sent their military intelligence propaganda team to the USA/NYC and Rockefeller gave them 2 floors of free office space.
How maps of Europe and MENA´d look like ? what koba is gonna get ?
Germany controls the bulk of Europe and the plan was for Italy to control N. Africa.
whats about koba?
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He maintains control over the Soviet Union. If there was no war between them and Germany my guess is that Germany would have controlled most of E. Europe and Italy controlling the Balkans.
 

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Stalin would have gotten the ME, India, and as much of China as he could overrun. With a secure western border and German technical advances he would soon be strong enough to finish off Germany in maybe 10 years. Hitler would have been weak yet again by then, due to his economic incompetence and failures that led him to war in the first place, since he would never change and would just repeat the same mistakes again. Stalin was flexible, and ruthless, and would be the stronger of the two 'partners' easily by 10 years along.
 
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Yes they would have conquered Europe. Britain (Rothchild) was so desperate for the USA to enter the war they sent their military intelligence propaganda team to the USA/NYC and Rockefeller gave them 2 floors of free office space.
How maps of Europe and MENA´d look like ? what koba is gonna get ?
Germany controls the bulk of Europe and the plan was for Italy to control N. Africa.
whats about koba?
View attachment 488628
He maintains control over the Soviet Union. If there was no war between them and Germany my guess is that Germany would have controlled most of E. Europe and Italy controlling the Balkans.
"He maintains control over the Soviet Union" you´d read more about Koba and Marxism, they want much more, port in Denmark , Bosporus, port in Persia etc. way too much according even Hitler
 

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Yes they would have conquered Europe. Britain (Rothchild) was so desperate for the USA to enter the war they sent their military intelligence propaganda team to the USA/NYC and Rockefeller gave them 2 floors of free office space.
How maps of Europe and MENA´d look like ? what koba is gonna get ?
Germany controls the bulk of Europe and the plan was for Italy to control N. Africa.
whats about koba?
View attachment 488628
He maintains control over the Soviet Union. If there was no war between them and Germany my guess is that Germany would have controlled most of E. Europe and Italy controlling the Balkans.
"He maintains control over the Soviet Union" you´d read more about Koba and Marxism, they want much more, port in Denmark , Bosporus, port in Persia etc. way too much according even Hitler
But with a strong German military that wins the war.......what capabilities would the Soviets had vs the Germans. Remember this is without the USA arming the Soviets with Lend Lease....all of that military hardware.
 

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Yes they would have conquered Europe. Britain (Rothchild) was so desperate for the USA to enter the war they sent their military intelligence propaganda team to the USA/NYC and Rockefeller gave them 2 floors of free office space.
How maps of Europe and MENA´d look like ? what koba is gonna get ?
Germany controls the bulk of Europe and the plan was for Italy to control N. Africa.
whats about koba?
View attachment 488628
He maintains control over the Soviet Union. If there was no war between them and Germany my guess is that Germany would have controlled most of E. Europe and Italy controlling the Balkans.
trying to respond in a serious way an insane Nazi Litwin can be considered a first sympthom of mental disorder...
I mean, if I were you any such intention (to respond) would worry me at least :)
 

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besides, any discussion on WWII must be started with UK-France agreement to feed Czechoslovakia to a Nazi alliance of Hitler and Poland, this is when WWII really started.

Hitler participating in the funeral of Polish leader Pilsudsky.


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If Britain fell, the U.S. would have entered the war later, how much later is hard to tell, but they would have tired pretty quickly of Hitler telling them who they could trade with and when, and the U.S. had tired of Japanese atrocities long before the Axis declared war in us. Germany didn't have enough troops to sit on Europe indefinitely, and it would have been easy for the U.S. to find allies in China and India, far easier than it was in the real sequence of events. We could have armed India or China as easily as we did the Soviets.
 
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If Britain fell, the U.S. would have entered the war later, how much later is hard to tell, but they would have tired pretty quickly of Hitler telling them who they could trade with and when, and the U.S. had tired of Japanese atrocities long before the Axis declared war in us. Germany didn't have enough troops to sit on Europe indefinitely, and it would have been easy for the U.S. to find allies in China and India, far easier than it was in the real sequence of events. We could have armed India or China as easily as we did the Soviets.
great post and U.S. to had already allies in China, once Japen ´d be done , USA´d turn with all nukes on Moscow , the next step Europe
 

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Yes they would have conquered Europe. Britain (Rothchild) was so desperate for the USA to enter the war they sent their military intelligence propaganda team to the USA/NYC and Rockefeller gave them 2 floors of free office space.
How maps of Europe and MENA´d look like ? what koba is gonna get ?
Germany controls the bulk of Europe and the plan was for Italy to control N. Africa.
whats about koba?
View attachment 488628
He maintains control over the Soviet Union. If there was no war between them and Germany my guess is that Germany would have controlled most of E. Europe and Italy controlling the Balkans.
trying to respond in a serious way an insane Nazi Litwin can be considered a first sympthom of mental disorder...
I mean, if I were you any such intention (to respond) would worry me at least :)
So you responded to me, the person who is showing signs of a mental disorder.....so what does that make you?
;)
 
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Yes they would have conquered Europe. Britain (Rothchild) was so desperate for the USA to enter the war they sent their military intelligence propaganda team to the USA/NYC and Rockefeller gave them 2 floors of free office space.
How maps of Europe and MENA´d look like ? what koba is gonna get ?
Germany controls the bulk of Europe and the plan was for Italy to control N. Africa.
whats about koba?
View attachment 488628
He maintains control over the Soviet Union. If there was no war between them and Germany my guess is that Germany would have controlled most of E. Europe and Italy controlling the Balkans.
trying to respond in a serious way an insane Nazi Litwin can be considered a first sympthom of mental disorder...
I mean, if I were you any such intention (to respond) would worry me at least :)
Ivan what game you play here with this Chechen guy ? whats wrong with your face?
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If Stalin - Hitler´s Devils' Alliance held, Could these 2 Asiatic (1) despots conquer the Europe (Northern Africa?) ? and What USA and Britain ´d do?

The Devils' Alliance: Hitler's Pact with Stalin, 1939-1941 ...

https://www.theguardian.com › books › aug › devils-all...

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6 Aug 2014 — Seventy-five years ago, on 23 August 1939, Hitler's Germany and Stalin's Russia stunned the world by announcing that they had concluded a ...

Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact - Wikipedia

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Unofficially it has also been referred to as the HitlerStalin Pact, Nazi–Soviet Pact or Nazi–Soviet Alliance (although it was not a formal alliance). Its clauses ...
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German–Soviet Axis talks - Wikipedia

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German–Soviet Axis talks occurred in October and November 1940 concerning the Soviet ... Stalin proposed a toast to Hitler, and Stalin and Soviet Foreign Minister ... He had not yet abandoned the possibility of other political outcomes and still talked of a "great worldwide coalition that stretched from Yokohama to Spain", ...

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"Both Hitler and Himmler had a soft spot for Islam. Hitler several times fantasized that, if the Saracens had not been stopped at the Battle of Tours, Islam would have spread through the European continent—and that would have been a good thing, since “Jewish Christianity” wouldn’t have gone on to poison Europe. Christianity doted on weakness and suffering, while Islam extolled strength, Hitler believed. Himmler in a January 1944 speech called Islam “a practical and attractive religion for soldiers,” with its promise of paradise and beautiful women for brave martyrs after their death. “This is the kind of language a soldier understands,” Himmler gushed."
Scary thought------but yes if hitler and russia had stuck together or not fought one another--------Nazi/Japan would have been running everything now.

By 1944, Hitler knew he was losing was seeking allies to help him------his gushing over islam was simply meant to have them continue to be his useful idiots.
 

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USA could not have defeated a combined Germany/ Russia
USA was busy with Japan
The Brits had almost zero army capacity
 

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What if FDR/Stalin's alliance held? Would they be teaching Russian in U.S. schools? The problem was that Hitler was a maniac and FDR was a weak doddering old fool who used to refer to Stalin as "Uncle Joe".
 

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Britain couldn't be defeated until the RAF was defeated and even if Stalin had actively joined Hitler he couldn't have flown Soviet planes from Russia to attack Britain.
Japan would not have been too pleased with such a situation either.
Both Stalin & Hitler hated and feared each other. Both knew they would eventually fight each other. It just came a lot sooner for Stalin than he had bargained for.
Germany has no natural resources other than coal and just to maintain the war against Britain, Germany needed oil and steel which he could only get by invading the USSR.
 

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If Stalin - Hitler´s Devils' Alliance held, Could these 2 Asiatic (1) despots conquer the Europe (Northern Africa?) ? and What USA and Britain´d do?
... Everything what you say here in this little sentence is nonsense. Hitler was an atypical Austrian, Stalin an atypical Georgian. And the secret part of the Ribbentrop-Molotow-Pact (it never existed an alliance) was made to eliminate Poland. After this had happened Stalin was surprised when Hitler had attacked him - but exactly this was the main reason for the elimination of Poland (except that this was the cause for world war 2). If the British empire, France and its colonial heritage and the USA - a country in the size of a continent - had done nothing, then this would had been the same result. Except perhaps that Germany had won a war against Russia. But was it in the interest of Hitler to win this war or was it only in his interest to do this war? This is perhaps the really interesting question.

 
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