If someone has advice on how to break through to trump fans I'm all ears.

[Papageorgio]

It's an open question. However, one thing is assured. What ever he does will have the absolute support of the minions. Including canceling the election.

I heard that Clinton was going to cancel the 2000 election, heard Bush was going to cancel the 2008 election and that Obama was going to cancel the 2016 election all from the far right and left and it never happened, surprise, surprise.

 

[Papageorgio]

The Pentagon has seen significant personnel changes, including the firing of the Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. C.Q. Brown and the first woman to lead the Navy, Adm. Lisa Franchetti, along with Secretary Pete Hegseth's controversial appointments and the removal of senior advisers. Additionally, a new media rotation program replaced traditional media outlets, like the New York Times and NBC News, with pro-Trump outlets such as Newsmax and the Washington Examiner. These shifts follow concerns about leadership stability and potential political motivations for the removals.

You are paranoid, you also think the 2000, 2004 and 2016 elections were rigged, that is how far off the map you are. I think your pot smoking has taken its toll on you.

 

[sealybobo]

You are paranoid, you also think the 2000, 2004 and 2016 elections were rigged, that is how far off the map you are. I think your pot smoking has taken its toll on you.

2000 and 2004 were rigged. Those were the only elections rigged.

Oh, I did say Rick Snyder might have "found" him the votes he needed to win MI in 2016. That was just based on his call to the Georgia Republican governor where he said "come on give me a break you can find me 10,000 votes".

Remember that? The GA Republican governor, like Mike Pence, didn't go alone.

I think with citizens like you it'll be easy to pull off a coup.

 

[sealybobo]

You are paranoid, you also think the 2000, 2004 and 2016 elections were rigged, that is how far off the map you are. I think your pot smoking has taken its toll on you.

Me, Bill Maher and the Wall Street Journal are all paranoid.

The Wall Street Journal argued it’s becoming “increasingly clear that vengeance is a large part, maybe the largest part” of how President Donald Trump “will define success in his second term.”
Trump’s campaign for vengeance “took an ominous turn” with the FBI raid of his former national security adviser-turned-critic John Bolton’s home on Friday, said the newspaper’s conservative editorial board, which has criticized the president on multiple issues since his return to office.

“It’s hard to see the raid as anything other than vindictive,” said the Journal, which suggested Trump may view the “process itself to be the punishment even if there is ultimately no criminal charge” or hope the raid will silence Bolton.
“The real offender here is a President who seems to think he can use the powers of his office to run vendettas,” the board concluded. “We said this was one of the risks of a second Trump term, and it’s turning out to be worse than we imagined.”

Wall Street Journal Flags Trump Risk ‘Turning Out To Be Worse Than We Imagined’

The newspaper’s conservative editorial board highlighted an “ominous turn.”

www.huffpost.com

 

[Nostra]

2000 and 2004 were rigged. Those were the only elections rigged.

Oh, I did say Rick Snyder might have "found" him the votes he needed to win MI in 2016. That was just based on his call to the Georgia Republican governor where he said "come on give me a break you can find me 10,000 votes".

Remember that? The GA Republican governor, like Mike Pence, didn't go alone.

I think with citizens like you it'll be easy to pull off a coup.

2000 was rigged? So Biden is illigetimate.

 

[Nostra]

Me, Bill Maher and the Wall Street Journal are all paranoid.

Yes.

 

[Papageorgio]

2000 and 2004 were rigged. Those were the only elections rigged.

Oh, I did say Rick Snyder might have "found" him the votes he needed to win MI in 2016. That was just based on his call to the Georgia Republican governor where he said "come on give me a break you can find me 10,000 votes".

Remember that? The GA Republican governor, like Mike Pence, didn't go alone.

I think with citizens like you it'll be easy to pull off a coup.

Again the pot seems to have made you paranoid. It’s okay, just try to relax.

 

[Hafar1014]

You guys made their votes disappear so you could win.

It was 4 years of Biden that did that

 

[berg80]

I heard that Clinton was going to cancel the 2000 election, heard Bush was going to cancel the 2008 election and that Obama was going to cancel the 2016 election

I'd love for you find a link to substantiate any of those assertions.

 

[Papageorgio]

Me, Bill Maher and the Wall Street Journal are all paranoid.

The Wall Street Journal argued it’s becoming “increasingly clear that vengeance is a large part, maybe the largest part” of how President Donald Trump “will define success in his second term.”
Trump’s campaign for vengeance “took an ominous turn” with the FBI raid of his former national security adviser-turned-critic John Bolton’s home on Friday, said the newspaper’s conservative editorial board, which has criticized the president on multiple issues since his return to office.

“It’s hard to see the raid as anything other than vindictive,” said the Journal, which suggested Trump may view the “process itself to be the punishment even if there is ultimately no criminal charge” or hope the raid will silence Bolton.
“The real offender here is a President who seems to think he can use the powers of his office to run vendettas,” the board concluded. “We said this was one of the risks of a second Trump term, and it’s turning out to be worse than we imagined.”

Wall Street Journal Flags Trump Risk ‘Turning Out To Be Worse Than We Imagined’

The newspaper’s conservative editorial board highlighted an “ominous turn.”

www.huffpost.com

It is vindictive and wrong, for Trump to go after his perceived enemies, just as it was vindictive of the Democrats to go after Trump for laws not normally prosecuted. That doesn’t mean he is going to halt an election or end elections, it means he is using his presidency wrongfully and the public needs to speak out against it and put pressure on their representatives to get a message to Trump to knock it off. In three years Trump will be out and Republicans need a plan for moving off of him and win in 2028, so if you write to Congress, the Republicans will see a need to move off him.

Now go hide under your covers and smoke a few more joints, it’s going to be okay.

 

[sealybobo]

Again the pot seems to have made you paranoid. It’s okay, just try to relax.

https://www.huffpost.com/author/ed-mazza
Trump claimed that he’s enjoying the highest approval ratings of his presidency, but suggested the media won’t report on it.

“Except what is written and broadcast in the Fake News, I now have the highest poll numbers I’ve ever had, some in the 60’s and even 70’s,” he wrote.

None of the polls tracked by RealClearPolling show Trump with anything close to those numbers. In fact, he’s 7.8 percentage points underwater on average.

ABC last year paid $15 million to settle a defamation lawsuit brought by Trump, while Paramount this summer spent $16 million to settle a lawsuit Trump filed against CBS that most legal observers believed was without merit.

He also frequently attacks specific news personalities and even late-night hosts. Last month, Trump celebrated the news that Stephen Colbert’s “Late Show” would be canceled, and warned that the other shows would soon follow suit.

Then, he fired off two messages aimed at ABC and NBC specifically:

So if he loses 2028 he will say that's fake news. He won 70% of the vote.

During his first term, Trump reportedly tried to have Disney, the owners of ABC, censor Jimmy Kimmel.
Critics called him out over his latest threats against free speech:

 

[Nostra]

Ed Mazza | HuffPost
Trump claimed that he’s enjoying the highest approval ratings of his presidency, but suggested the media won’t report on it.

“Except what is written and broadcast in the Fake News, I now have the highest poll numbers I’ve ever had, some in the 60’s and even 70’s,” he wrote.

None of the polls tracked by RealClearPolling show Trump with anything close to those numbers. In fact, he’s 7.8 percentage points underwater on average.

ABC last year paid $15 million to settle a defamation lawsuit brought by Trump, while Paramount this summer spent $16 million to settle a lawsuit Trump filed against CBS that most legal observers believed was without merit.

He also frequently attacks specific news personalities and even late-night hosts. Last month, Trump celebrated the news that Stephen Colbert’s “Late Show” would be canceled, and warned that the other shows would soon follow suit.

Then, he fired off two messages aimed at ABC and NBC specifically:

So if he loses 2028 he will say that's fake news. He won 70% of the vote.

During his first term, Trump reportedly tried to have Disney, the owners of ABC, censor Jimmy Kimmel.
Critics called him out over his latest threats against free speech:

You shouldn't vote for him in 2028.

 

[sealybobo]

It is vindictive and wrong, for Trump to go after his perceived enemies, just as it was vindictive of the Democrats to go after Trump for laws not normally prosecuted. That doesn’t mean he is going to halt an election or end elections, it means he is using his presidency wrongfully and the public needs to speak out against it and put pressure on their representatives to get a message to Trump to knock it off. In three years Trump will be out and Republicans need a plan for moving off of him and win in 2028, so if you write to Congress, the Republicans will see a need to move off him.

Now go hide under your covers and smoke a few more joints, it’s going to be okay.

Trump already showed you he'd rig an election. The only reason the Supreme's didn't go along with it was because it wasn't as close as 2000 was. They went along with it then. He lost too badly in 2016 to go along with him. But 2028 will be a close one.

 

[Hafar1014]

Democrats dont have a clue they lost 2.5 million voters who left and went to the GOP

In recent years, millions of people across the United States have moved from Democratic cities to Republican suburbs, complicating the politics of swing states in a pivotal election year, according to a Stateline analysis.

Republican suburban counties in four swing states — Georgia in the South and Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in the Midwest — gained the most new arrivals; heavily Democratic cities lost the most. In Western swing states Arizona and Nevada, meanwhile, the biggest people magnets have been slightly Democratic cities that are expected to be hotly contested.

Those shifts reflect a nationwide trend: In Republican counties, as defined by the 2020 presidential vote, 3.7 million more people have moved in than have left since 2020, while Democratic counties had a net loss of 3.7 million, according to a Stateline analysis of U.S. Census Bureau estimates and county presidential election data kept by the University of Michigan.

The U.S. Census Bureau estimates released in March included people who moved within the country between mid-2020 and mid-2023, a time of pandemic dislocations, lockdowns in big cities, and the rise of remote work that fed a search for affordable housing in less crowded and more scenic settings. Those settings, as it turns out, also tend to be more conservative. The census numbers do not include births or immigration.

 

[BackAgain]

It would be wonderful if anyone could “break through” to bug.80 and others so afflicted with and damaged by severe TDS.

 

[Papageorgio]

I'd love for you find a link to substantiate any of those assertions.

They were all over message boards like these, far left and right wing radio show promoted these silly theories. I remember Randi Rhodes saying Bush would suspend the election under Marshall Law or some nonsense, I never believed any of it and I don’t believe this BS either. The far left and far right have been given too much control of public opinion. We need a party that doesn’t allow these nuts to have such a loud voice.

 

[BackAgain]

They were all over message boards like these, far left and right wing radio show promoted these silly theories. I remember Randi Rhodes saying Bush would suspend the election under Marshall Law or some nonsense, I never believed any of it and I don’t believe this BS either. The far left and far right have been given too much control of public opinion. We need a party that doesn’t allow these nuts to have such a loud voice.

?

How would America disallow the dissemination of opinions with which you and/or others disagree?

Would that not absolutely implicate our First Amendment guarantee of freedom of speech?

It used to be that the answer to someone making arguments which we find faulty or inaccurate was “more free speech” not censorship. Are you suggesting otherwise.

 

[Papageorgio]

Ed Mazza | HuffPost
Trump claimed that he’s enjoying the highest approval ratings of his presidency, but suggested the media won’t report on it.

“Except what is written and broadcast in the Fake News, I now have the highest poll numbers I’ve ever had, some in the 60’s and even 70’s,” he wrote.

None of the polls tracked by RealClearPolling show Trump with anything close to those numbers. In fact, he’s 7.8 percentage points underwater on average.

ABC last year paid $15 million to settle a defamation lawsuit brought by Trump, while Paramount this summer spent $16 million to settle a lawsuit Trump filed against CBS that most legal observers believed was without merit.

He also frequently attacks specific news personalities and even late-night hosts. Last month, Trump celebrated the news that Stephen Colbert’s “Late Show” would be canceled, and warned that the other shows would soon follow suit.

Then, he fired off two messages aimed at ABC and NBC specifically:

So if he loses 2028 he will say that's fake news. He won 70% of the vote. The lawsuits are irrelevant, ABC and CBS

During his first term, Trump reportedly tried to have Disney, the owners of ABC, censor Jimmy Kimmel.
Critics called him out over his latest threats against free speech:

He can’t run in 2028, the states can’t put him on the ballot, the Constitution says he can’t run for a 3rd term.

ABC and CBS didn’t want a trial and settled, if they believed they could have won they should have fought it.

It’s okay if a President doesn’t like the media, Obama tried to shut out Fox News, you didn’t have a problem with it.

What a president can’t do is to restrict the media like Biden tried to do with social media. Trying to supress the media, is wrong, and as of now, all press seem to be allowed at his press conferences, no one is restricted, in fact Trump allows more media enterprises than Biden’s administration did.

I don’t like Trump even suggesting to move troops into Chicago or New York, I don’t like Trump trolling people, I don’t like Trump going after his political enemies and we need the public and Republicans to denounce that and put pressure on Trump. As far as celebrating a person has been cancelled by a network? Who cares? He is allowed not to like people, I am sure Biden hate Fox reporters.

 

[berg80]

It is vindictive and wrong, for Trump to go after his perceived enemies, just as it was vindictive of the Democrats to go after Trump for laws not normally prosecuted.

Nearly half of people convicted of the same crimes as Donald Trump are sent to prison, study finds​

Nearly half of people convicted of the same crimes as Trump go to jail, study finds

Trump is set to be sentenced on November 26

www.independent.co.uk

Is there any evidence the members of the grand juries who indicted trump and the juries that convicted him are all Dems? As you can tell I hate false equivalences and broad brush accusations. As of now, no one trump is attacking with the DoJ has been indicted of anything.

I'm sure you know the laws Hunter Biden broke, ones for which he was prosecuted while his dad was prez, are rarely prosecuted.

 

[Nostra]

Nearly half of people convicted of the same crimes as Donald Trump are sent to prison, study finds​

Nearly half of people convicted of the same crimes as Trump go to jail, study finds

Trump is set to be sentenced on November 26

www.independent.co.uk

Is there any evidence the members of the grand juries who indicted trump and the juries that convicted him are all Dems? As you can tell I hate false equivalences and broad brush accusations.

I'll bet you a million dollars he doesn't go to prison over this.

You in?