If pedophiles become priests for access to children (or so i have heard)

[TheOldSchool]

You have dismissed millenia of slaughter in the name of the multitude of Gods in order to villainize what you perceive as atheist acts over a few years in the only century where weapons of mass murder existed. Thank goodness those weapons weren’t available in the past, or humanity would not exist.

No. I placed it in the context of that day. Just as I did the atrocities the militant atheists committed. It was a stark contrast.

Now let's look at the good each did, OK?

Plenty of good done by both. See, that’s objective.

What good was done by militant atheists?

Atheists were slaughtered for voicing their beliefs until very recently. But atheists accomplished quite a lot despite suffering under extreme oppression.

Like what? They ran several countries in the 20th century and still run some today. What good has come from them?

You mean like China? Well after the religious west committed atrocities against them during colonialism, they have reduced poverty from over 90% to less than 6%. Of course, I wouldn’t trade their secular form of government for ours ever.

 

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No. I placed it in the context of that day. Just as I did the atrocities the militant atheists committed. It was a stark contrast.

Now let's look at the good each did, OK?

Plenty of good done by both. See, that’s objective.

What good was done by militant atheists?

Atheists were slaughtered for voicing their beliefs until very recently. But atheists accomplished quite a lot despite suffering under extreme oppression.

Like what? They ran several countries in the 20th century and still run some today. What good has come from them?

You mean like China? Well after the religious west committed atrocities against them during colonialism, they have reduced poverty from over 90% to less than 6%. Of course, I wouldn’t trade their secular form of government for ours ever.

Is that it? Anything else?

 

[TheOldSchool]

Plenty of good done by both. See, that’s objective.

What good was done by militant atheists?

Atheists were slaughtered for voicing their beliefs until very recently. But atheists accomplished quite a lot despite suffering under extreme oppression.

Like what? They ran several countries in the 20th century and still run some today. What good has come from them?

You mean like China? Well after the religious west committed atrocities against them during colonialism, they have reduced poverty from over 90% to less than 6%. Of course, I wouldn’t trade their secular form of government for ours ever.

Is that it? Anything else?

List some religious accomplishments. Try not to include things that led to genocides.

 

[Picaro]

Maybe. Religions condone all kinds of immorality.

Not nearly even remotely as much as 'new atheists' and 'rationalists' do, which is why so many of you are mentally ill deviants and so obsessed with ridiculous Xian bashing rubbish.

Matter of opinion. Religion has been used to justify countless horrors over the millenia.

No, superstition has, and in any case your attempts at conflating Christianity with all the rest is an immediate failure and of course a sign of willful ignorance. Not all religions are alike, and it' not like you assorted fetishists and sociopaths have any problems with the worst of them since you never bring any up except repeating the stupid baseless smears against Xians invented by homos and their pedo-friendly fan clubs. Islam is only a recent addition, and not often, based on your fellow faggots getting tossed off buildings, and yet many of you sicko freaks still want it to over run Da Evul Xians in the U.S., so nobody needs to pretend your ilk are genuine debaters here. See Jake for utter lack of credibility and representative of nearly all left wing Democrats.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Maybe. Religions condone all kinds of immorality.

Not nearly even remotely as much as 'new atheists' and 'rationalists' do, which is why so many of you are mentally ill deviants and so obsessed with ridiculous Xian bashing rubbish.

Matter of opinion. Religion has been used to justify countless horrors over the millenia.

No, superstition has, and in any case your attempts at conflating Christianity with all the rest is an immediate failure and of course a sign of willful ignorance. Not all religions are alike, and it' not like you assorted fetishists and sociopaths have any problems with the worst of them since you never bring any up except repeating the stupid baseless smears against Xians invented by homos and their pedo-friendly fan clubs. Islam is only a recent addition, and not often, based on your fellow faggots getting tossed off buildings, and yet many of you sicko freaks still want it to over run Da Evul Xians in the U.S., so nobody needs to pretend your ilk are genuine debaters here. See Jake for utter lack of credibility and representative of nearly all left wing Democrats.

Compared to other religions, Christianity is only a recent addition too. In a parallel universe where the U.S. is a Christian theocracy, I could easily see you happily pushing people off of roofs and chanting religious nonsense.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The facts remain that certain Christians would kill homosexuals if they could under the color of law.

The facts remain that certain atheists would outlaw religion if they could.

Name calling in a Zone 2 Forum instead of discussing the OP does no good. Yes, pedophiles go to hunt their prey where they are most likely to be: schools, churches, playgrounds, scouts, athletics, etc.

Thus logic dictates the pedophiles will enter professions associated with those areas of opportunity.

 

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What good was done by militant atheists?

Atheists were slaughtered for voicing their beliefs until very recently. But atheists accomplished quite a lot despite suffering under extreme oppression.

Like what? They ran several countries in the 20th century and still run some today. What good has come from them?

You mean like China? Well after the religious west committed atrocities against them during colonialism, they have reduced poverty from over 90% to less than 6%. Of course, I wouldn’t trade their secular form of government for ours ever.

Is that it? Anything else?

List some religious accomplishments. Try not to include things that led to genocides.

Religion promotes the virtues of thankfulness, forgiveness, humility, chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience and kindness.

Religion creates wonderful charities and organizations.

Religious persons and institutions are usually the first source of literacy, education, and healthcare in the poorer regions.

Religion has been the source of abundant human services from hospitals, orphanages, nursing homes, and schools, to advocacy on behalf of those with no voice, to supporting cultural outreaches, and seeking always to find ways in which to protect and promote human life and its authentic flourishing.

Religion gave us the concept of subsidiarity.

Religion has done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility.

Religion teaches accountability and responsibility.

Religion teaches that we have a choice in how we behave.

Religion teaches that actions have consequences.

Religion inspires a sense of wonder in nature and the universe.

Religion helps us feel connected to one another and to nature.

Religion helps us feel less alone in the world.

Religion serves to ennoble the human spirit.

Religion serves to bind the community together.

Religion inspires love, peace and happiness.

Religion serves to create traditions.

Religion brings order to our lives.

Religion brings comfort to the terminally ill.

Religion can act as a source of hope for the oppressed.

Religion teaches that we can transform ourselves.

Christian values were the foundation which Western Civilization was built upon.

No other institution played a greater role in shaping Western Civilization than the Catholic Church.

Modern science was born in the Catholic Church.

Catholic priests developed the idea of free-market.

The Catholic Church invented the university.

Western law grew out of Church canon law.

The Church humanized the West by insisting on the sacredness of all human life

The Church constantly sought to alleviate the evils of slavery and repeatedly denounced the mass enslavement of conquered populations and the infamous slave trade, thereby undermining slavery at its sources.

Religion gave us great thinkers, leaders and humanitarians.

Religion gave us America.

Religion gave us incredible artwork.

Religion gave us incredible music.

Religion gave us incredible architecture.

Christianity has spread democracy.

Christians fought other Christians in WWII to end their aggression.

Christians rebuilt Europe after WWII.

Christians rebuilt Japan after WWII.

 

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No. I placed it in the context of that day. Just as I did the atrocities the militant atheists committed. It was a stark contrast.

Now let's look at the good each did, OK?

Plenty of good done by both. See, that’s objective.

What good was done by militant atheists?

Atheists were slaughtered for voicing their beliefs until very recently. But atheists accomplished quite a lot despite suffering under extreme oppression.

Like what? They ran several countries in the 20th century and still run some today. What good has come from them?

You mean like China? Well after the religious west committed atrocities against them during colonialism, they have reduced poverty from over 90% to less than 6%. Of course, I wouldn’t trade their secular form of government for ours ever.

Is that it? Anything else?

 

[prickly pyne]

you will find them anywhere you have a collection of kids.....schools...churches.....boy/girl scouts etc the wolves go where the sheep are

not any kids. Kids from solid healthy two parent families who are well adjusted and who are making good progress, in the community and at school are much less likely to be victims. Children from troubled backgrounds are most vulnerable. Kids who are being or have been neglected. Those who have been previously abused. Those from single parent homes. Kids having problems at home, at school, in the community all are at much greater risk. Two things are essential to a predator - access to the appropriate (from their point of view) aged children- a pedo rarely abuses children outside of a narrow age range and the second thing is not to be caught. So what they want are children who aren't going to report it and if they do won't be believed or taken seriously.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Its even legal in a few countries to marry 10 year olds

Including the United States. Did you not know that?