If Liz Cheney runs and wins the White House next year, will she be a good President?

[tahuyaman]

they are nationalists but maybe they put the interests of a different nation first.

i'm ok as long as we are clear that they are not "liberals, "progressives" or even "populists."

Neo-cons are globalists, not nationalists. They are liberals who hood more hawkish foreign policy ideas. They believe in growing government as far as domestic policy is concerned.

 

[tahuyaman]

/—-/ This is just another lame attempt to undermine Trump’s ever growing popularity with a candidate who doesn’t have a snowball chance in hell.

Trump’s popularity isn’t growing. It’s just not shrinking. His base is absolutely loyal.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Trump’s popularity isn’t growing. It’s just not shrinking. His base is absolutely loyal.

/——/ Not even you believe Trump isn’t rising in the polls.

Trump surges in Iowa, strengthening historic lead, new poll shows​

https://www.axios.com/2023/12/11/trump-iowa-lead-poll-december

 

[Cellblock2429]

Third party and independent candidates don't generally do well. But there's so much frustration with the duopoly I think it's just a matter of time before the people finally rebel. Since there's been speculation that Liz Cheney might run in 2024 I wonder what people think about how the country would fare under a Cheney administration.

/——/ An even better question, what democRAT will you libtards vote for when Joe drops out? With support for Biden fading, and the corruption case building, will he quit the presidential race?

 

[Borillar]

Because some elections aren't worth the effort. There isn't enough to gain.

There’s no such thing. If the democrats had the magical ability to control the outcomes of elections, we would have supermajorities in congress instead of being saddled with Repug obstruction, monthly debt ceiling hostage taking, and idiots like MTG, Boebert, and the rest of the Trump cult.

As far as the OP goes, if Cheney somehow became president, it would probably go the same direction as the Bush 2 administration.

 

[Rawley]

Third party and independent candidates don't generally do well. But there's so much frustration with the duopoly I think it's just a matter of time before the people finally rebel. Since there's been speculation that Liz Cheney might run in 2024 I wonder what people think about how the country would fare under a Cheney administration.

Pee Wee Herman would have a better chance of being elected President. And he's dead.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

There’s no such thing. If the democrats had the magical ability to control the outcomes of elections, we would have supermajorities in congress instead of being saddled with Repug obstruction, monthly debt ceiling hostage taking, and idiots like MTG, Boebert, and the rest of the Trump cult.

As far as the OP goes, if Cheney somehow became president, it would probably go the same direction as the Bush 2 administration.

California does have a supermajority. That there are a few republican congressmen in rural districts doesn't interfere in democratic corruption.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yes, this is true. But I have to believe that there's a critical mass of incompetence and fuckery that will eventually cause the modern duopoly to collapse in on itself, despite even the mighty power of negative partisanship voting.

Problem is, you'd think right now people would sit up and listen, but I go on about Proportional Representation all the time, and most people are like "no, we don't have that"

 

[beautress]

Liz Cheney frightens people for the wrong reasons. In a 50-state shared Democracy, that is not a good thing.

 

[beautress]

Stormy are you cum-drunk again? Lez lost her own state primary by 37 points... to an unknown.

The best thing she can do now is go hunting with her pa.... a little daddy time would do her some good.

An Unknown? Representative Hageman is well known in the Equality State, and she is from one of the best families in Wyoming who will not let her people down, be they conservative, liberal, or independent.

 

[beautress]

She should waterboard her father. He knows something. We should find out what it is.

Sorry, Richard Cheney is one of the kindest, most gentlemanly men in the world. Had he educated his daughter in Laramie at the U of Wyo, she would not have acted out unkindly toward the innocent man that Trump was in the face of lies perpetrated by Hillary Clinton and others.
And immature people do not make good Presidents anyway.

 

[BackAgain]

Thread premise is just soooooo likely.

 

[tahuyaman]

Liz Cheney frightens people for the wrong reasons. In a 50-state shared Democracy, that is not a good thing.

She doesn’t scare anyone. She’s irrelevant

 

[beautress]

She doesn’t scare anyone. She’s irrelevant

You're very brave. But I'm fearful of people in Congress who jump on anybody's bandwagon that blinds them to the truth of the stuff that went down in politics for the past decade. False narrative politics are worrisome to me, and I have segued from fearful to greatly disappointed that adults in the Congress find such convenient narratives to govern the nation by rather than the factual truth. Most of the time, I have a tried and true ability to separate fact from fiction, but when someone who comes from a long line of American politicians starts believing the fantasies, I worry about the damage being done to the Constitution that could destroy civilians' perspective on how fortunate we the people have been in both good and bad times. If we fall for balderdash in politics, we will create a world that is far more like eighteenth century Europe than Eisenhower's America in which the distinguished General in him caused him to encourage Congress to pass the anticommunist act of 1954. With Hillariy's attitude toward socialism being based on the sneaky Alinsky method of turning a Democratic Republic into a communist stink hole. That frightens me. For the first time in my life, I'm seeing free speech and freedom of religion suffering one shutdown after another. We must fight that morbid squalor back or the next generation will be a subjugated mass cow-towing to a privileged emperor or empress who abuses the freedoms of the Constitution of the United States of America.. We're teetering on the edge of a slippery slope when Congress goes along with punishing people for exercising their freedom of speech. The subjugation of a majority of people in any country begs for a society that condescends - against people who have human rights - harshly.

 

[the other mike]

Third party and independent candidates don't generally do well. But there's so much frustration with the duopoly I think it's just a matter of time before the people finally rebel. Since there's been speculation that Liz Cheney might run in 2024 I wonder what people think about how the country would fare under a Cheney administration.

Her chance of beating Trump in the primaries is as good as her dad being tried for war crimes in Iraq.

 

[tahuyaman]

You're very brave. But I'm fearful of people in Congress who jump on anybody's bandwagon that blinds them to the truth of the stuff that went down in politics for the past decade. False narrative politics are worrisome to me, and I have segued from fearful to greatly disappointed that adults in the Congress find such convenient narratives to govern the nation by rather than the factual truth. Most of the time, I have a tried and true ability to separate fact from fiction, but when someone who comes from a long line of American politicians starts believing the fantasies, I worry about the damage being done to the Constitution that could destroy civilians' perspective on how fortunate we the people have been in both good and bad times. If we fall for balderdash in politics, we will create a world that is far more like eighteenth century Europe than Eisenhower's America in which the distinguished General in him caused him to encourage Congress to pass the anticommunist act of 1954. With Hillariy's attitude toward socialism being based on the sneaky Alinsky method of turning a Democratic Republic into a communist stink hole. That frightens me. For the first time in my life, I'm seeing free speech and freedom of religion suffering one shutdown after another. We must fight that morbid squalor back or the next generation will be a subjugated mass cow-towing to a privileged emperor or empress who abuses the freedoms of the Constitution of the United States of America.. We're teetering on the edge of a slippery slope when Congress goes along with punishing people for exercising their freedom of speech. The subjugation of a majority of people in any country begs for a society that condescends - against people who have human rights - harshly.

Liz Cheney is irrelevant. I know it and she knows it.

 

[beautress]

Liz Cheney is irrelevant. I know it and she knows it.

She sided with socialist creedmonsters of the leftist state which was not in accordance with the Equality State's high ideals that include conservatism, free speech and abide by the panaceas their forebears believed in. She fell to the deep state and may never return to the tenets of the Constitution of the United States of America. I'm not sure she sees the errors of her ways, but her celebrity trip of her father's vice presidency has ended in at least one state, and if she keeps it up, she will lock horns with those who maintain Constitutional freedoms. Can anyone deny that the radical left imposes an idea that is found worldwide: "Free speech for me, but not for thee;" "the pursuit of happiness for me but not for thee, slave;" and in Biden's case, "wealth from my country's treasury for ,e, but not for thee, taxpayers." Can you say, said in a condescention for others by the Biden group?

Corruption in this country is at critical mass, and it should never have gone this far. A lifetime politician who accumulated 5 multimilliondollar mansions for himself didn't get that much money from his Senator's paycheck. It came from dealing from the bottom of the deck while nobody was paying attention. Biden even got away with stealing Slick Billy Clinton's "slick" title with a hidden sneak habit of expropriating cash from the resources tax money diverted from the Foreign Aid packages, which he learned was expedient using his titles of high office to pick a pocket or two, the Dickens' method.

What I don't understand is why Congress seems highly reluctant to act against abject criminality. And why was that viral video of Biden bragging to his billionaire boy's club about bringing home cash on Air Force Two from the Ukraine which he also hammered for getting the Ukraine's top cop fired for daring to ask what his son Hunter Biden's credentials for taking home Burisma's board membership and it's millions in the form of paychecks even dismissing his responsibility for attending burisma's board meetings. I would like to know: How did that video get scrubbed off the face of the internet? Who scrubbed it, and how much was procured from the United States' accumulation of wealth from taxpayers who are middle class and will never be rich like Biden the Braggart.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Her chance of beating Trump in the primaries is as good as her dad being tried for war crimes in Iraq.

/——/ As good a chance as Hunter Biden being nominated father of the year.

 

[initforme]

I'd vote for her over the same choices in the last election. Heck I'd even put her sign up in my yard just like other wackos who put up political signs in their yards.

 

[tahuyaman]

I'd vote for her over the same choices in the last election. Heck I'd even put her sign up in my yard just like other wackos who put up political signs in their yards.

Why?