If leftists get their dream and successfully impeach Trump

[bripat9643]

Seriously, the cowardly GOP congress will not impeach the orange lardo and will only ask him to resign when the 2018 midterms begin looking dismal for republicans.

The "best" scenario is Trump resigns for "health related reasons, blah, blah, blah....."

The "worst" scenario is Trump resigns because of pending revelations of collusion with Russia...or financial misdeeds or emolument issues .......this would force Pence to issue a pardon,
and we all know how THAT worked out for the decent, poor Gerald Ford.

Trump is arrogant enough to Pardon himself.

True, but that doesn't make it legal. Only President Pence can pardon him.

There's no law saying the President can't pardon himself. However, that is never going to be necessary. On the other hand, I would laugh my ass off if Trump pardoned all the small fry who got caught in Mewler's net simply because he needed some trophies on his wall.

 

[rightwinger]

Why did the blue areas cast more votes?

Liberal enclaves .........aka ..........population centers..........higher voters in illegal immigrant areas...........like little Cuba and Mexifornia.

So you mean that it is PEOPLE who vote, not vast swathes of vacant land

 

[rightwinger]

If leftists get their dream and successfully impeach Trump
Discussion in 'Politics' started by Marion Morrison, Monday at 9:27 PM.


Curious title. The left has no power to impeach Trump. Any impeachment would have to come from the Republicans......they are calling the shots

 

[Divine Wind]

You dumbasses, now you got Mike Pence for president.

He is a leftist's nightmare,

Trump is moderate compared to Mike Pence.

If you get rid of Trump, you're in for a world of pain. Mike Pence is uber-right wing.

If the GOP allows this to happen, and I see no sign that they won't, I will never ever vote Republican again.

How can the Republicans control whether or not Trump chooses to resign? The Constitution delineates the order of succession.

 

[bripat9643]

If leftists get their dream and successfully impeach Trump
Discussion in 'Politics' started by Marion Morrison, Monday at 9:27 PM.


Curious title. The left has no power to impeach Trump. Any impeachment would have to come from the Republicans......they are calling the shots

That's one reason it's never going to happen.

 

[rightwinger]

If leftists get their dream and successfully impeach Trump
Discussion in 'Politics' started by Marion Morrison, Monday at 9:27 PM.


Curious title. The left has no power to impeach Trump. Any impeachment would have to come from the Republicans......they are calling the shots

That's one reason it's never going to happen.

It is unlikely Republicans would impeach over something as petty as a blowjob like they did with Clinton

It would have to be something serious enough to bring down the whole party before Republicans would impeach

 

[Divine Wind]

Seriously, the cowardly GOP congress will not impeach the orange lardo and will only ask him to resign when the 2018 midterms begin looking dismal for republicans.

The "best" scenario is Trump resigns for "health related reasons, blah, blah, blah....."

The "worst" scenario is Trump resigns because of pending revelations of collusion with Russia...or financial misdeeds or emolument issues .......this would force Pence to issue a pardon,
and we all know how THAT worked out for the decent, poor Gerald Ford.

Trump is arrogant enough to Pardon himself.

True, but that doesn't make it legal. Only President Pence can pardon him.

There's no law saying the President can't pardon himself. However, that is never going to be necessary. On the other hand, I would laugh my ass off if Trump pardoned all the small fry who got caught in Mewler's net simply because he needed some trophies on his wall.

Maybe Trump will be the first! Maybe he'll shoot Pelosi, Feinstein and a few others then pardon himself.

 

[Divine Wind]

If leftists get their dream and successfully impeach Trump
Discussion in 'Politics' started by Marion Morrison, Monday at 9:27 PM.


Curious title. The left has no power to impeach Trump. Any impeachment would have to come from the Republicans......they are calling the shots

That's one reason it's never going to happen.

It is unlikely Republicans would impeach over something as petty as a blowjob like they did with Clinton

It would have to be something serious enough to bring down the whole party before Republicans would impeach

Clinton wasn't impeached for a blowjob. He was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice.

"The Trial of Queen Caroline and the Impeachment of President Clinton: " by Daniel H. Erskine
President Clinton’s wrongdoing actually involved his alleged obstruction of justice and perjury in judicial proceedings.

 

[rightwinger]

If leftists get their dream and successfully impeach Trump
Discussion in 'Politics' started by Marion Morrison, Monday at 9:27 PM.


Curious title. The left has no power to impeach Trump. Any impeachment would have to come from the Republicans......they are calling the shots

That's one reason it's never going to happen.

It is unlikely Republicans would impeach over something as petty as a blowjob like they did with Clinton

It would have to be something serious enough to bring down the whole party before Republicans would impeach

Clinton wasn't impeached for a blowjob. He was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice.

"The Trial of Queen Caroline and the Impeachment of President Clinton: " by Daniel H. Erskine
President Clinton’s wrongdoing actually involved his alleged obstruction of justice and perjury in judicial proceedings.

Sure he was.....sure he was

Bottom line....his "crime" was a blowjob

Why don't you admit the impeachment was a political witch hunt and not even remotely a high crime

 

[JQPublic1]

If leftists get their dream and successfully impeach Trump
Discussion in 'Politics' started by Marion Morrison, Monday at 9:27 PM.


Curious title. The left has no power to impeach Trump. Any impeachment would have to come from the Republicans......they are calling the shots

That's one reason it's never going to happen.

Never Say Never. Impeachment could be in the foreseeable future for Donald Trump. Here's why. You see, Republican morality and the core values allotted to conservatism itself are at stake. While many low caste konservative Trump Bots do not care what Trump says or does personally or politically, the establishment conservatives are squirming in their seats trying to find some way to disassociate themselves from this madman. If he does the unthinkable and fires Mueller, I'm afraid the backlash from Americans still holding on to a sense of justice all over the country could force establishment Republicans to consider impeachment.
When and if it comes down to a choice of being reelected or saving Trump's presidency, Trump is going to go down.

 

[bripat9643]

If leftists get their dream and successfully impeach Trump
Discussion in 'Politics' started by Marion Morrison, Monday at 9:27 PM.


Curious title. The left has no power to impeach Trump. Any impeachment would have to come from the Republicans......they are calling the shots

That's one reason it's never going to happen.

It is unlikely Republicans would impeach over something as petty as a blowjob like they did with Clinton

It would have to be something serious enough to bring down the whole party before Republicans would impeach

Clinton wasn't impeached for a blowjob. He was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice.

"The Trial of Queen Caroline and the Impeachment of President Clinton: " by Daniel H. Erskine
President Clinton’s wrongdoing actually involved his alleged obstruction of justice and perjury in judicial proceedings.

Sure he was.....sure he was

Bottom line....his "crime" was a blowjob

Why don't you admit the impeachment was a political witch hunt and not even remotely a high crime

No, his crimes were perjury and obstruction of justice.

 

[Divine Wind]

If leftists get their dream and successfully impeach Trump
Discussion in 'Politics' started by Marion Morrison, Monday at 9:27 PM.


Curious title. The left has no power to impeach Trump. Any impeachment would have to come from the Republicans......they are calling the shots

That's one reason it's never going to happen.

It is unlikely Republicans would impeach over something as petty as a blowjob like they did with Clinton

It would have to be something serious enough to bring down the whole party before Republicans would impeach

Clinton wasn't impeached for a blowjob. He was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice.

"The Trial of Queen Caroline and the Impeachment of President Clinton: " by Daniel H. Erskine
President Clinton’s wrongdoing actually involved his alleged obstruction of justice and perjury in judicial proceedings.

Sure he was.....sure he was

Bottom line....his "crime" was a blowjob

Why don't you admit the impeachment was a political witch hunt and not even remotely a high crime

Sorry, dude, but perjury and obstruction of justice are high crimes. It doesn't matter what they are about.

Let's say Trump is charged with perjury and obstruction of justice for lying under oath about Russian hookers. Should he be impeached or not? After all, it was just Russian whores he was lying about, amirite? Yes, he should IMO because no one made him lie. He chose to lie. He chose to commit a crime by lying under oath. I'm guessing if the shoe was on the other foot, you'd be in the same line I am to impeach. I'm in that line because it's the right thing to do. You'd be in that line for partisan political reason.

 

[Divine Wind]

If leftists get their dream and successfully impeach Trump
Discussion in 'Politics' started by Marion Morrison, Monday at 9:27 PM.


Curious title. The left has no power to impeach Trump. Any impeachment would have to come from the Republicans......they are calling the shots

That's one reason it's never going to happen.

Never Say Never. Impeachment could be in the foreseeable future for Donald Trump. Here's why. You see, Republican morality and the core values allotted to conservatism itself are at stake. While many low caste konservative Trump Bots do not care what Trump says or does personally or politically, the establishment conservatives are squirming in their seats trying to find some way to disassociate themselves from this madman. If he does the unthinkable and fires Mueller, I'm afraid the backlash from Americans still holding on to a sense of justice all over the country could force establishment Republicans to consider impeachment.
When and if it comes down to a choice of being reelected or saving Trump's presidency, Trump is going to go down.

Could be, but won't be. Trump will resign first because the last thing the Republicans want before the November 2018 elections is an impeachment in Congress to distract from the Republican agenda....which is already derailed for the remainder of 2017 over the Russian ties and Russian actions.

 

[rightwinger]

If leftists get their dream and successfully impeach Trump
Discussion in 'Politics' started by Marion Morrison, Monday at 9:27 PM.


Curious title. The left has no power to impeach Trump. Any impeachment would have to come from the Republicans......they are calling the shots

That's one reason it's never going to happen.

It is unlikely Republicans would impeach over something as petty as a blowjob like they did with Clinton

It would have to be something serious enough to bring down the whole party before Republicans would impeach

Clinton wasn't impeached for a blowjob. He was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice.

"The Trial of Queen Caroline and the Impeachment of President Clinton: " by Daniel H. Erskine
President Clinton’s wrongdoing actually involved his alleged obstruction of justice and perjury in judicial proceedings.

Sure he was.....sure he was

Bottom line....his "crime" was a blowjob

Why don't you admit the impeachment was a political witch hunt and not even remotely a high crime

Sorry, dude, but perjury and obstruction of justice are high crimes. It doesn't matter what they are about.

Let's say Trump is charged with perjury and obstruction of justice for lying under oath about Russian hookers. Should he be impeached or not? After all, it was just Russian whores he was lying about, amirite? Yes, he should IMO because no one made him lie. He chose to lie. He chose to commit a crime by lying under oath. I'm guessing if the shoe was on the other foot, you'd be in the same line I am to impeach. I'm in that line because it's the right thing to do. You'd be in that line for partisan political reason.

Clinton did not lie. He had a different definition of what constitutes sex

Republucan prosecution was solely political payback on petty charges

 

[Divine Wind]

Clinton did not lie. He had a different definition of what constitutes sex

Republucan prosecution was solely political payback on petty charges

He also had a different definition of what it means to smoke pot.

Dude, he lied. If you cannot see that or admit it, then we've reached an impasse between reality and political bullshit.

 

[bripat9643]

That's one reason it's never going to happen.

It is unlikely Republicans would impeach over something as petty as a blowjob like they did with Clinton

It would have to be something serious enough to bring down the whole party before Republicans would impeach

Clinton wasn't impeached for a blowjob. He was impeached for perjury and obstruction of justice.

"The Trial of Queen Caroline and the Impeachment of President Clinton: " by Daniel H. Erskine
President Clinton’s wrongdoing actually involved his alleged obstruction of justice and perjury in judicial proceedings.

Sure he was.....sure he was

Bottom line....his "crime" was a blowjob

Why don't you admit the impeachment was a political witch hunt and not even remotely a high crime

Sorry, dude, but perjury and obstruction of justice are high crimes. It doesn't matter what they are about.

Let's say Trump is charged with perjury and obstruction of justice for lying under oath about Russian hookers. Should he be impeached or not? After all, it was just Russian whores he was lying about, amirite? Yes, he should IMO because no one made him lie. He chose to lie. He chose to commit a crime by lying under oath. I'm guessing if the shoe was on the other foot, you'd be in the same line I am to impeach. I'm in that line because it's the right thing to do. You'd be in that line for partisan political reason.

Clinton did not lie. He had a different definition of what constitutes sex

Republucan prosecution was solely political payback on petty charges

The lawyer asking him the question defined the term for him, so he did lie. Clinton doesn't get to make up his own definitions for words, especially in a legal proceeding.

 

[JQPublic1]

If leftists get their dream and successfully impeach Trump
Discussion in 'Politics' started by Marion Morrison, Monday at 9:27 PM.


Curious title. The left has no power to impeach Trump. Any impeachment would have to come from the Republicans......they are calling the shots

You're correct. But keep in mind that the establishment conservatives never wanted Trump in the first place. Pence is the man they want to be the chief executive of this nation. So Pence is being groomed to replace Trump as the odds go up that "the Donald" will be impeached.
But just what that does that mean? If Pence becomes president what's going to change drastically? Do you honestly think that the American people are going to stand by and allow drastic cuts to Medicare, Medicaid or all the other social benefits that they fought long and hard to attain? That's not going to happen no matter who's president. We have three branches of government; and, even if they are all controlled by the same party, the constituencies of Congress can wield impressive power just by voting or threatening to unseat congresspersons who do not respond to their needs and wishes. It is those independent swing voters that congressmen are concerned about. Yes ,it's people like me who are neither Democrat or Republican that keep men like Pence from becoming dictators.

 

[rightwinger]

If leftists get their dream and successfully impeach Trump
Discussion in 'Politics' started by Marion Morrison, Monday at 9:27 PM.


Curious title. The left has no power to impeach Trump. Any impeachment would have to come from the Republicans......they are calling the shots

You're correct. But keep in mind that the establishment conservatives never wanted Trump in the first place. Pence is the man they want to be the chief executive of this nation. So Pence is being groomed to replace Trump as the odds go up that "the Donald" will be impeached.
But just what that does that mean? If Pence becomes president what's going to change drastically? Do you honestly think that the American people are going to stand by and allow drastic cuts to Medicare, Medicaid or all the other social benefits that they fought long and hard to attain? That's not going to happen no matter who's president. We have three branches of government; and, even if they are all controlled by the same party, the constituencies of Congress can wield impressive power just by voting or threatening to unseat congresspersons who do not respond to their needs and wishes. It is those independent swing voters that congressmen are concerned about. Yes ,it's people like me who are neither Democrat or Republican that keep men like Pence from becoming dictators.

If Pence becomes President, he will become a lame duck
He will have no political capital or support. He would be tainted by his support of Trump

There would be a political price to pay for electing Trump

 

[nat4900]

If Pence becomes President, he will become a lame duck
He will have no political capital or support. He would be tainted by his support of Trump

There would be a political price to pay for electing Trump

Plus, Pence would have to pardon Trump, and as Gerald Ford found out after pardoning Nixon, that such is the political "kiss of death"....(although Ford was a decent man.)

 

[JQPublic1]

If leftists get their dream and successfully impeach Trump
Discussion in 'Politics' started by Marion Morrison, Monday at 9:27 PM.


Curious title. The left has no power to impeach Trump. Any impeachment would have to come from the Republicans......they are calling the shots

That's one reason it's never going to happen.

Never Say Never. Impeachment could be in the foreseeable future for Donald Trump. Here's why. You see, Republican morality and the core values allotted to conservatism itself are at stake. While many low caste konservative Trump Bots do not care what Trump says or does personally or politically, the establishment conservatives are squirming in their seats trying to find some way to disassociate themselves from this madman. If he does the unthinkable and fires Mueller, I'm afraid the backlash from Americans still holding on to a sense of justice all over the country could force establishment Republicans to consider impeachment.
When and if it comes down to a choice of being reelected or saving Trump's presidency, Trump is going to go down.

Could be, but won't be. Trump will resign first because the last thing the Republicans want before the November 2018 elections is an impeachment in Congress to distract from the Republican agenda....which is already derailed for the remainder of 2017 over the Russian ties and Russian actions.

So why would the Republicans fear an impeachment before the 2018 elections? I'm of the persuasion that they have more to fear by not having an impeachment before the 2018 elections. At least they can salvage some of their good faith with a majority of the American people and possibly retain all three houses of government by doing the right thing.

Of course, the possibility that Trump may have done nothing wrong may make all of this moot anyway. But we do need to know one way or another since the country belongs to the people and not individuals or the government.
We have the right to know if our president or any other government officials are spies, crooks or some other agent working against the common interests of the American people.