Just curious , why is it that you will not answer my question ? I have asked it twice in this thread and you seem to be running away from it. Here I will ask it again !!!
You've been angrily tapping your toe and whing that MJ has been ducking you, Princess, but more than 24 hours have passed since I asked you for a clarification (how would you guarantee Israeli security if they withdrew to the proposed UN 181 partition lines?) and you've been ducking me since. A bit hypocritical of you, don't you think?
i, as one who has been and is totally opposed to the state of israel based upon my anti-colonial stance and principle, would support an ISRAELI state based upon the provisions of UNGA resolution 181, considering the pragmatic realities of the situation; and i am quite sure the many, many countries of the world that now are opposed to a zionist, jewish israel would do so also.
i would not object at all to UN peacekeeping forces or NATO forces being used to protect israel based upon UNGA 181 and i think you would find that the most adamant pro-palestinian posters who are not anti-semites feel the same as i.
there would, of course, have to be some consideration given to the many refugees and their children caused by al-nakba but that is pretty much a bookkeeping thing.
so there you go. other than some minor issues, israel gains the respect of the world, recognition by the arab league and the opening of diplomatic channels, and borders as secure as any borders in the world other than that between U.S. and canada (that "we need secure borders" was a boolshite argument anyway. if you want secure borders, you make peace instead of attacking your neighbours and rattling your sabers every chance you get.)
but is that enough??? i am sure it would be for the great majority of israelis, particularly the sabra, but israelis march to the tune of the american klezmer band, and american jews don't care one single damn about the the lives of the israelis if it interferes with their dream of some mythical "ersatz ysrael", complete from river to river, undivided capital, a destruction of the dome of the rock, and etc. after all, they have been stuffing their pennies on those little blue cookie tins for half a century now and have been maintaining their hegemony over the indigenous arab peoples by paying the way for ne'er to well brooklyn gunslingers and jack booted soviet neo-nais to people their land of milk and honey and replace those jews wealthy enough to flee.
and so the genocide marches forward slowly, day by day, until the reality of a palestinian nation and people is slowly extinguished, which will be a bad thing...and a by product of that slow genocide will be another bad thing. judaism and the jewish people will also cease to exist, because your children will leave your religion and deny a valuable culture in droves, not wishing to be associated that genocide.
bravo.