Just an FYI.....
If you were an employer and you were audited by the DoL and one of your employees had a file with an I-9 form and attasched to it was a Certificate of Live Birth and a state drivers license....you would be fined and forced to suspend that employee until he produced one of three things:
1) A valid US passport
2) A Birth Certificate with a raised seal
3) A letter from the department of state of birth confirming that there is a valid BC that corresponds with the hospital issued Certificate of Live Birth
So that being siad...he fooled the shit out of you....he produced nothing deemed by his OWN government that he heads up that is considered proof of citizenship.
Lol...I guess he sees you as just too stupid to know this. He fooled the shit out of ya.
You haven't even bothered to educate yourself on the matter. Instead, you're playing tomato/tomahto games. Birth certificates are issued by individual states. Each state has their own procedures and policies regarding vital records. In most states, a birth certificate is called a "Certificate of Live Birth." You're trying to draw some distinction that does not exist.
When a person requests a birth certificate, they are not issued the "original" document. The record holder must retain such things, because otherwise they wouldn't be a record keeper now would they? Instead they are issued certified copies. Those copies are certified in one of a couple possible ways.
One way is that they can be accompanied with a notarized letter from the record keeper stating that the copy is a true and accurate copy of the records the department in question has on file. I've seen this several times with certified copies of marriage licenses while I was living in San Antonio. I used to work in the wedding business and would frequently have to file marriage licenses after the wedding. In addition to filing the paperwork with the county's department of vital statistics, some clients would also request that I obtain certified copies of the ML that they could use to send away the paperwork needed for the bride's name change, military purposes, etc. The Bexar county clerk uses digital copies, so a certified copy ends up being nothing more than a black and white print out of the digital record, with an attached notarized letter stating that the foregoing print out is a true and accurate reflection of that which the county clerk has on record.
The second way that a BC copy can be certified is to be directly notarized. Essentially, the letter of authentication is on the copy itself in some way. For some states, like the state of PA where I was born, this is done simply with a raised seal, and a raised stamp of the signature of the State Registrar. In HI, there is a brief attestation along with a raised seal. I've also personally seen this kind of method used in San Antonio when I filed my DBA. I don't know why the same office would use different techniques for different documents, but whatever. When I got a copy of my DBA paperwork, there was a small area on the back simply saying "By affixing my hand, I certify that this copy is a true and accurate reflection of the records on file with the Bexar County Clerk" or something to that effect. The guy put is signature stamp on it, pressed it with the county seal, and I was out the door.
Then Senator Obama already has released his birth certificate, complete with raised seal and attestation on the reverse, during his campaign. All the talk that has continued since then has decried that it is a "Certification of Live Birth" in a fallacious equivocation with what SOME OTHER STATES refer to a "Certification of Live Birth." In some areas, a "Certification of Live Birth" is issued by a hospital, which is subsequently used by the state to issue a "Birth Certificate." In PA, a birth certificate is officially titled a "Certification of Birth." According to the birther and semi-birther crowds, my birth certificate would not be a birth certificate. But I have always used that "Certification of Birth" along with nothing more than a DL to legally obtain employment.
Let's start calling a duck and duck. Obama has released his birth certificate. His "Certification of Live Birth" IS his birth certificate. The State of Hawaii Department of vital records has affirmed that. They have also affirmed that the "original" documents are indeed on record in their registry. Anyone who wants to continue to ***** and complain that Obama hasn't released his documents or that his documents are somehow lacking is either a complete idiot who is incapable of employing language, or a complete idiot who is intentionally and dishonestly trying to twist and manipulate basic language for political points.
to think that all of the Hawaiian officials are lying, also, and going along with Obama's somehow forged B/C that he did release. 
No, but the doctor or the midwife will determine if the child is alive.
