If gays aren't protected then no one is

[Missouri_Mike]

If you don't have to serve gays cake or even to do business with them based on the federal government not having the constitutional power to protect groups of people based on interstate commerce. Who's to say that the civil rights act couldn't be found unconstitutional with another hard right judge or two?. This means jim crow laws would be constitutional and the business owners would once again be able to hang white only signs.


What's to stop the civil rights act from being over turned in the supreme court?

The same applies to gun rights, though, right?

Perhaps proprietors who don't to serve want gun-toting customers will install metal detectors so they can deny entry to gun carriers? After all, while the government cannot deny one the right to own a gun, private individuals can deny gun carriers access to their property.

Just put up a sign and go for it.

 

[JoeMoma]

As I posted in another thread, this should be a common sense issue.

If the cake ordered by gays/same sex couples is indistinguishable from a cake ordered by straights/heterosexual couples that the baker normally makes, the the baker should have to complete the order. After all, the cake isn’t gay, and the artistry of the cake in no way endorses the gay lifestyle or same sex couples.

On the other hand, if the cake is not indistinguishable from cakes ordered by non-gay people such that it’s obvious the cake is for a gay event or could be considered an endorsement of same sex marriage or the gay lifestyle, then the baker should not have to make a cake to those specifications. That would violate the bakers rights of freedom of speech and religion.

The baker should have control of what types of cakes he is willing to make or not. The baker should not be forced to make a cake that looks like a penis if that is not on the menu of the types of cakes he makes,

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

If you don't have to serve gays cake or even to do business with them based on the federal government not having the constitutional power to protect groups of people based on interstate commerce. Who's to say that the civil rights act couldn't be found unconstitutional with another hard right judge or two?. This means jim crow laws would be constitutional and the business owners would once again be able to hang white only signs.


What's to stop the civil rights act from being over turned in the supreme court?

The same applies to gun rights, though, right?

Perhaps proprietors who don't to serve want gun-toting customers will install metal detectors so they can deny entry to gun carriers? After all, while the government cannot deny one the right to own a gun, private individuals can deny gun carriers access to their property.

Why not? Liberty includes control of one’s property and business dealings, right?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

If you don't have to serve gays cake or even to do business with them based on the federal government not having the constitutional power to protect groups of people based on interstate commerce. Who's to say that the civil rights act couldn't be found unconstitutional with another hard right judge or two?. This means jim crow laws would be constitutional and the business owners would once again be able to hang white only signs.


What's to stop the civil rights act from being over turned in the supreme court?

The same applies to gun rights, though, right?

Perhaps proprietors who don't to serve want gun-toting customers will install metal detectors so they can deny entry to gun carriers? After all, while the government cannot deny one the right to own a gun, private individuals can deny gun carriers access to their property.

What about gay detectors?

 

[Rustic]

If you don't have to serve gays cake or even to do business with them based on the federal government not having the constitutional power to protect groups of people based on interstate commerce. Who's to say that the civil rights act couldn't be found unconstitutional with another hard right judge or two?. This means jim crow laws would be constitutional and the business owners would once again be able to hang white only signs.


What's to stop the civil rights act from being over turned in the supreme court?

 

[JGalt]

If you don't have to serve gays cake or even to do business with them based on the federal government not having the constitutional power to protect groups of people based on interstate commerce. Who's to say that the civil rights act couldn't be found unconstitutional with another hard right judge or two?. This means jim crow laws would be constitutional and the business owners would once again be able to hang white only signs.


What's to stop the civil rights act from being over turned in the supreme court?

The same applies to gun rights, though, right?

Perhaps proprietors who don't to serve want gun-toting customers will install metal detectors so they can deny entry to gun carriers? After all, while the government cannot deny one the right to own a gun, private individuals can deny gun carriers access to their property.

All they really have to do is post a sign on the entrances, that weapons are not allowed. But in my state, the law has no teeth. If I get caught carrying my weapon in a posted location, all they can do is ask me to leave. If I don't leave, it's only a simple trespassing ticket.

I usually ignore the posted signs, except for a post office, public school, police station, or jail.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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Race is a protected class. Being homosexual is not.

If you need the federal government to tell you who you get to discriminate against, you're a bigot.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Liberty offends.

Pussies can deal with it or get the **** out.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

If you need the federal government to tell you who you get to discriminate against, you're a bigot.

Let bigots be idiot bigots and don’t give them business. Don’t shit on their rights to be idiots.

 

[Avatar4321]

How is anyone's right violated If the government doesn't force someone to violate their rights to free religion and free speech?

 

[jillian]

If you don't have to serve gays cake or even to do business with them based on the federal government not having the constitutional power to protect groups of people based on interstate commerce. Who's to say that the civil rights act couldn't be found unconstitutional with another hard right judge or two?. This means jim crow laws would be constitutional and the business owners would once again be able to hang white only signs.


What's to stop the civil rights act from being over turned in the supreme court?

nothing.

 

[jillian]

If you need the federal government to tell you who you get to discriminate against, you're a bigot.

Let bigots be idiot bigots and don’t give them business. Don’t shit on their rights to be idiots.

did that work doing Jim Crow?

er.... no

 

[BETH-MIDAN]

Bitter about having a constitution ?

Not at all. Are you?

More liberty. Not less. Right?

okay b(~_')o

 

[Avatar4321]

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Race is a protected class. Being homosexual is not.

If you need the federal government to tell you who you get to discriminate against, you're a bigot.

Yeah because you're less of a bigot for discriminating against Christians without the government telling you to

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

If you need the federal government to tell you who you get to discriminate against, you're a bigot.

Let bigots be idiot bigots and don’t give them business. Don’t shit on their rights to be idiots.

did that work doing Jim Crow?

er.... no

Another who does not understand Jim Crow laws.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

okay b(~_')o

What does that mean?

 

[BETH-MIDAN]

okay b(~_')o

What does that mean?

its a little Kirby making a thumbs up

 

[Avatar4321]

If you need the federal government to tell you who you get to discriminate against, you're a bigot.

Let bigots be idiot bigots and don’t give them business. Don’t shit on their rights to be idiots.

did that work doing Jim Crow?

er.... no

Another who does not understand Jim Crow laws.

She doesn't understand Crimen Falsi either.

I suspect there is a lot she doesn't know. But then that's not very different than anyone else