If Britain banned guns....why did gunshot trauma wounds double last year?

[BULLDOG]

You do understand this is the United States, and not England, right? Are you confused about where you are?

Yep.....I understand completely....Britain, an island...banned and confiscated guns and the people let them...they believed it when assholes like you told them that banning and confiscating guns would mean less gun crime......now their gun crime rates are going up like crazy...and the shooters are getting younger and younger.....

Exactly what does that have to do with our laws? It's a different country. You're trying a little too hard goober.

So I guess you can't see that the point being made is that gun laws do not lessen gun crime

You might want to look at that map again,
View attachment 152875

Yeah....I know where Britain is.......

You might want to stop taking the "Stupid" pills..they aren't helping you.

Britain banned guns....their gun crime rate went up 89% in 10 years, and went up another 23% last year, with a 42% increase in London, their capitol city, all by itself...

We own and carry more guns...and our gun murder rate went down 49%....our gun crime rate went down 75%...our violent crime rate went down 72%...

You asshats want to do what Britain did.....you are morons.

Again. This is the US. Not Great Britain. If you want to whine about them go there,

 

[Skull Pilot]

You do understand this is the United States, and not England, right? Are you confused about where you are?

So the next time you tell us about the murder rates in other countries we can point you to this post, right?

I generally don't concern myself with foreign murder rates unless they relate to the subject being discussed.

So then I guess you know that our murder rate is virtually what it was in 1950 putting it at a 120 year low

I know there are 58 dead and hundreds injured, and those numbers wouldn't be nearly that high if the NRA didn't own our politicians, and if we got rid of high capacity magazines and bump stocks.

You do know that 7 times as many people are killed with knives every year than by rifles don't you?

twice as many people are killed by fists and feet than by rifles

1.8% of all murder is committed with rifles.

No matter how you slice it rifles are the least of our murder problems

 

[2aguy]

You do understand this is the United States, and not England, right? Are you confused about where you are?

So the next time you tell us about the murder rates in other countries we can point you to this post, right?

I generally don't concern myself with foreign murder rates unless they relate to the subject being discussed.

So then I guess you know that our murder rate is virtually what it was in 1950 putting it at a 120 year low

I know there are 58 dead and hundreds injured, and those numbers wouldn't be nearly that high if the NRA didn't own our politicians, and if we got rid of high capacity magazines and bump stocks.

There are 3 millon dead babies....and those numbers wouldn't be nearly that high if Planned Parenthood didn't own the democrat party.....they killed those babies...the NRA didn't shoot anyone and leads the country in teaching gun safety, training the police and military.......

You asshats actually do contribute to murder.....and then blame the NRA...that is how stupid you are..

 

[Tommy Tainant]

You do understand this is the United States, and not England, right? Are you confused about where you are?

So the next time you tell us about the murder rates in other countries we can point you to this post, right?

I generally don't concern myself with foreign murder rates unless they relate to the subject being discussed.

So then I guess you know that our murder rate is virtually what it was in 1950 putting it at a 120 year low

Yes , we would kill to have murder rates as low as you guys.
Second amendment victims. Killed by the NRA.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yep.....I understand completely....Britain, an island...banned and confiscated guns and the people let them...they believed it when assholes like you told them that banning and confiscating guns would mean less gun crime......now their gun crime rates are going up like crazy...and the shooters are getting younger and younger.....

Exactly what does that have to do with our laws? It's a different country. You're trying a little too hard goober.

So I guess you can't see that the point being made is that gun laws do not lessen gun crime

You might want to look at that map again,
View attachment 152875

Yeah....I know where Britain is.......

You might want to stop taking the "Stupid" pills..they aren't helping you.

Britain banned guns....their gun crime rate went up 89% in 10 years, and went up another 23% last year, with a 42% increase in London, their capitol city, all by itself...

We own and carry more guns...and our gun murder rate went down 49%....our gun crime rate went down 75%...our violent crime rate went down 72%...

You asshats want to do what Britain did.....you are morons.

Again. This is the US. Not Great Britain. If you want to whine about them go there,

Oh I am going to remember this the next time you talk about the murder rate in other countries

 

[2aguy]

You do understand this is the United States, and not England, right? Are you confused about where you are?

So the next time you tell us about the murder rates in other countries we can point you to this post, right?

I generally don't concern myself with foreign murder rates unless they relate to the subject being discussed.

So then I guess you know that our murder rate is virtually what it was in 1950 putting it at a 120 year low

I know there are 58 dead and hundreds injured, and those numbers wouldn't be nearly that high if the NRA didn't own our politicians, and if we got rid of high capacity magazines and bump stocks.

There wer 89 killed and 450 wounded by a rental truck in Nice, France...and if our politicians keep being in bed with Big Auto...that is going to happen here.....dumb ass...

 

[BULLDOG]

You do understand this is the United States, and not England, right? Are you confused about where you are?

Yep.....I understand completely....Britain, an island...banned and confiscated guns and the people let them...they believed it when assholes like you told them that banning and confiscating guns would mean less gun crime......now their gun crime rates are going up like crazy...and the shooters are getting younger and younger.....

Exactly what does that have to do with our laws? It's a different country. You're trying a little too hard goober.

So I guess you can't see that the point being made is that gun laws do not lessen gun crime

You might want to look at that map again,
View attachment 152875

you know that the spiel is more gun laws, more gun control equals less crime less murder so when someone shows you evidence to the contrary you dismiss it because it's another country?

That's fine with me

So what do you say about our murder rate and it's 120 year low?

Are you trying to say murder rates are only effected by the number of guns on the street? I didn't think even you were that dumb.

 

[Skull Pilot]

You do understand this is the United States, and not England, right? Are you confused about where you are?

So the next time you tell us about the murder rates in other countries we can point you to this post, right?

I generally don't concern myself with foreign murder rates unless they relate to the subject being discussed.

So then I guess you know that our murder rate is virtually what it was in 1950 putting it at a 120 year low

Yes , we would kill to have murder rates as low as you guys.
Second amendment victims. Killed by the NRA.
View attachment 152877

Hey your murder rate went UP

ours is at a 120 year low

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yep.....I understand completely....Britain, an island...banned and confiscated guns and the people let them...they believed it when assholes like you told them that banning and confiscating guns would mean less gun crime......now their gun crime rates are going up like crazy...and the shooters are getting younger and younger.....

Exactly what does that have to do with our laws? It's a different country. You're trying a little too hard goober.

So I guess you can't see that the point being made is that gun laws do not lessen gun crime

You might want to look at that map again,
View attachment 152875

you know that the spiel is more gun laws, more gun control equals less crime less murder so when someone shows you evidence to the contrary you dismiss it because it's another country?

That's fine with me

So what do you say about our murder rate and it's 120 year low?

Are you trying to say murder rates are only effected by the number of guns on the street? I didn't think even you were that dumb.

Of course not I never said that.

That's the line you gun control freaks like to use

 

[2aguy]

You do understand this is the United States, and not England, right? Are you confused about where you are?

So the next time you tell us about the murder rates in other countries we can point you to this post, right?

I generally don't concern myself with foreign murder rates unless they relate to the subject being discussed.

So then I guess you know that our murder rate is virtually what it was in 1950 putting it at a 120 year low

Yes , we would kill to have murder rates as low as you guys.
Second amendment victims. Killed by the NRA.
View attachment 152877

Our criminals shoot each other......your criminals are shooting your law abiding people......and our gun murder rate went down 49% as more of us own and carry guns........

You...

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.





The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .



========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

 

[2aguy]

Yep.....I understand completely....Britain, an island...banned and confiscated guns and the people let them...they believed it when assholes like you told them that banning and confiscating guns would mean less gun crime......now their gun crime rates are going up like crazy...and the shooters are getting younger and younger.....

Exactly what does that have to do with our laws? It's a different country. You're trying a little too hard goober.

So I guess you can't see that the point being made is that gun laws do not lessen gun crime

You might want to look at that map again,
View attachment 152875

you know that the spiel is more gun laws, more gun control equals less crime less murder so when someone shows you evidence to the contrary you dismiss it because it's another country?

That's fine with me

So what do you say about our murder rate and it's 120 year low?

Are you trying to say murder rates are only effected by the number of guns on the street? I didn't think even you were that dumb.

No...the murder rate is effected by wether or not the criminals murder people.....law abiding people owning and carrying guns does not increase the gun murder rate....

If you morons would only learn that, you would be much smarter....

 

[BULLDOG]

You do understand this is the United States, and not England, right? Are you confused about where you are?

So the next time you tell us about the murder rates in other countries we can point you to this post, right?

I generally don't concern myself with foreign murder rates unless they relate to the subject being discussed.

So then I guess you know that our murder rate is virtually what it was in 1950 putting it at a 120 year low

I know there are 58 dead and hundreds injured, and those numbers wouldn't be nearly that high if the NRA didn't own our politicians, and if we got rid of high capacity magazines and bump stocks.

You do know that 7 times as many people are killed with knives every year than by rifles don't you?

twice as many people are killed by fists and feet than by rifles

1.8% of all murder is committed with rifles.

No matter how you slice it rifles are the least of our murder problems

So in your opinion, those 58 dead people and hundreds of injured people really aren't worth our concern? How many dead people are acceptable for you? Are any of your family members included in that list?

 

[BULLDOG]

You do understand this is the United States, and not England, right? Are you confused about where you are?

So the next time you tell us about the murder rates in other countries we can point you to this post, right?

I generally don't concern myself with foreign murder rates unless they relate to the subject being discussed.

So then I guess you know that our murder rate is virtually what it was in 1950 putting it at a 120 year low

I know there are 58 dead and hundreds injured, and those numbers wouldn't be nearly that high if the NRA didn't own our politicians, and if we got rid of high capacity magazines and bump stocks.

There are 3 millon dead babies....and those numbers wouldn't be nearly that high if Planned Parenthood didn't own the democrat party.....they killed those babies...the NRA didn't shoot anyone and leads the country in teaching gun safety, training the police and military.......

You asshats actually do contribute to murder.....and then blame the NRA...that is how stupid you are..

Out of anything to say, so you want to change the subject? Typical.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

You do understand this is the United States, and not England, right? Are you confused about where you are?

So the next time you tell us about the murder rates in other countries we can point you to this post, right?

I generally don't concern myself with foreign murder rates unless they relate to the subject being discussed.

So then I guess you know that our murder rate is virtually what it was in 1950 putting it at a 120 year low

Yes , we would kill to have murder rates as low as you guys.
Second amendment victims. Killed by the NRA.
View attachment 152877

Our criminals shoot each other......your criminals are shooting your law abiding people......and our gun murder rate went down 49% as more of us own and carry guns........

You...

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.





The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .



========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Get back to me when your second amendment slaughter is similar to our murder rates. Clown.

 

[BULLDOG]

You do understand this is the United States, and not England, right? Are you confused about where you are?

So the next time you tell us about the murder rates in other countries we can point you to this post, right?

I generally don't concern myself with foreign murder rates unless they relate to the subject being discussed.

So then I guess you know that our murder rate is virtually what it was in 1950 putting it at a 120 year low

I know there are 58 dead and hundreds injured, and those numbers wouldn't be nearly that high if the NRA didn't own our politicians, and if we got rid of high capacity magazines and bump stocks.

There wer 89 killed and 450 wounded by a rental truck in Nice, France...and if our politicians keep being in bed with Big Auto...that is going to happen here.....dumb ass...

The subject is guns goober , either grab on and stick with that or go play with yourself.

 

[BULLDOG]

Exactly what does that have to do with our laws? It's a different country. You're trying a little too hard goober.

So I guess you can't see that the point being made is that gun laws do not lessen gun crime

You might want to look at that map again,
View attachment 152875

you know that the spiel is more gun laws, more gun control equals less crime less murder so when someone shows you evidence to the contrary you dismiss it because it's another country?

That's fine with me

So what do you say about our murder rate and it's 120 year low?

Are you trying to say murder rates are only effected by the number of guns on the street? I didn't think even you were that dumb.

Of course not I never said that.

That's the line you gun control freaks like to use

Then explain your 120 year remark. what was your point?

 

[2aguy]

So the next time you tell us about the murder rates in other countries we can point you to this post, right?

I generally don't concern myself with foreign murder rates unless they relate to the subject being discussed.

So then I guess you know that our murder rate is virtually what it was in 1950 putting it at a 120 year low

Yes , we would kill to have murder rates as low as you guys.
Second amendment victims. Killed by the NRA.
View attachment 152877

Our criminals shoot each other......your criminals are shooting your law abiding people......and our gun murder rate went down 49% as more of us own and carry guns........

You...

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.





The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .



========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Get back to me when your second amendment slaughter is similar to our murder rates. Clown.
View attachment 152881

Our gun murder rate is going down, yours is going up....you banned and confiscated guns.....and thought that would make you safer...it hasn't....10 years after banning them your gun crime rate went up 89% genius...and keeps going up......

 

[BULLDOG]

I generally don't concern myself with foreign murder rates unless they relate to the subject being discussed.

So then I guess you know that our murder rate is virtually what it was in 1950 putting it at a 120 year low

Yes , we would kill to have murder rates as low as you guys.
Second amendment victims. Killed by the NRA.
View attachment 152877

Our criminals shoot each other......your criminals are shooting your law abiding people......and our gun murder rate went down 49% as more of us own and carry guns........

You...

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.





The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .



========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Get back to me when your second amendment slaughter is similar to our murder rates. Clown.
View attachment 152881

Our gun murder rate is going down, yours is going up....you banned and confiscated guns.....and thought that would make you safer...it hasn't....10 years after banning them your gun crime rate went up 89% genius...and keeps going up......

It's hard to argue with results. Are you telling me that GB murder rate isn't better than ours? They are doing something right. We should do the same.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

So then I guess you know that our murder rate is virtually what it was in 1950 putting it at a 120 year low

Yes , we would kill to have murder rates as low as you guys.
Second amendment victims. Killed by the NRA.
View attachment 152877

Our criminals shoot each other......your criminals are shooting your law abiding people......and our gun murder rate went down 49% as more of us own and carry guns........

You...

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.





The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .



========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Get back to me when your second amendment slaughter is similar to our murder rates. Clown.
View attachment 152881

Our gun murder rate is going down, yours is going up....you banned and confiscated guns.....and thought that would make you safer...it hasn't....10 years after banning them your gun crime rate went up 89% genius...and keeps going up......

It's hard to argue with results. Are you telling me that GB murder rate isn't better than ours? They are doing something right. We should do the same.

Yeah but abortion...........................

 

[Darkwind]

Yes.......when you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns....and in Britain, they will speak with a British accent....

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Probabaly because, as you point out every other day, the number of guns in Britain is increasing

The brits passed a law that makes it illegal to fight back even if the guy is in your home.

There isn't an increase in guns. They only have five and they're just passing it around because no one will fight back.