If Biden staffers sold autopen pardons, should they be overturned?

[Moonglow]

I do not like how the presidents give out pardons like candy....Especially to their in-laws and kids....

 

[OODA_Loop]

I can forge a signature better than the machine.

Forge this one and post a picture

 

[Edgetho]

It's time to cut bait or fish. If this congressman can prove what he is saying, there needs to be indictments. If he's just running his mouth, there should be an indictment. This shit has to stop and it has to be done the right way and let the chips fall. "Cash For Clemency": GOP Rep. Accuses Team Biden Of Selling Autopen Pardons [WATCH] - The American Tribune.com

I'm not sure how you would prosecute them. Are you?

Sponge Brains Shits Pants would inevitably say he gave permission..... And then what? What are the guidelines to using an AutoPen? Anybody?

dimocrap scum are a disease. The only solution to a disease is to eradicate it. Completely. Absolutely and without mercy.

Then any time it pokes its diseased head out of the slime, destroy it. And keep destroying it until it is extinct.

By whatever means are necessary

 

[the watcher]

Congress has the power to hold hearings, hire investigators, subpoena evidence and witnesses, and refer to the DOJ for prosecution. They could do it if they want to, and fund it themselves. This alleged shit means nothing by itself, and if you want to use the media like that then the media too should investigate it. Seymore Hershe would have gotten to the bottom of it. There has to be at least an illusion of accountability.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Also, should the staffers be concerned about their safety?

If a staffer earning $100,000 gets paid $250,000 for a pardon…that money trail should be easy to uncover. Also, the person pardoned illegally may have a vested interest in the staffer not being able to admit what they did.

Would it be beyond imagination that a pardoned BAD GUY ends up tying off any loose ends of their pardon?

Comer Identifies Biden Staffers Behind Autopen Scandal, Warns Subpoenas Are Coming – [your]NEWS

House Oversight Chair says staffers used autopen to sign pardons, executive orders while Biden was “clearly in mental decline”

yournews.com

Pardons Granted by President Joseph Biden (2021-2025)

www.justice.gov

There are the pardons. Fun to review them.

To answer the question in your subject line, no. What's done is done, why take the time and effort to fight it now, when it would be a toss up whether revoking the pardon would stick.

If the DOJ can prove fraud on the part of a Biden staffer who took money for a pardon, prosecute them. If the court that finds them guilty also revokes the pardon, fine. But I'm guessing that would have to be fought all the way to the USSC. We have more important priorities for federal law enforcement, is my take.

Would it be beyond imagination that a pardoned BAD GUY ends up tying off any loose ends of their pardon?

No, it would not. I wouldn't cry about that. Take a bribe and you know you're working with crooks.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So if someone paid a WH staffer for an autopen pardon that Joe Biden has no knowledge of…that pardon is fully legally binding and should not be overturned for any reason whatsoever?

That would be an interesting legal hill to die on.

You would first have to have Biden deny he authorized the pardon, and he is not going to do that. Haven't we beaten the horse to death at least a few times since January?

 

[Edgetho]

To answer the question in your subject line, no. What's done is done, why take the time and effort to fight it now, when it would be a toss up whether revoking the pardon would stick.

If the DOJ can prove fraud on the part of a Biden staffer who took money for a pardon, prosecute them. If the court that finds them guilty also revokes the pardon, fine. But I'm guessing that would have to be fought all the way to the USSC. We have more important priorities for federal law enforcement, is my take.

Would it be beyond imagination that a pardoned BAD GUY ends up tying off any loose ends of their pardon?

No, it would not. I wouldn't cry about that. Take a bribe and you know you're working with crooks.

Please, ALL of you -- Remember something.

All the Feds ever got Al Capone for was Tax Evasion. Remember The Teflon Don? How long did it take to get him?

the dimocrap FILTH party is a Criminal Organization. They KNOW they are criminals. They KNOW they are breaking the Law.

Which is why virtually all of them are Lawyers. Who better than a Lawyer whould know how to cover their Crimes? The entire dimocrap FILTH party is based on Crime. They have the best and brightest Lawyers working for them.

Are any of you dumb enough to think they could get caught in such a prosecution? A ******* goobermint Lawyer going after a 5 Million Dollar a year Lawyer Criminal educated in the best schools in America?

How far do you think they'd get?

Plus, and here's the kicker...... Half the Judiciary is as crooked as the criminals. Most of the time, The Judge is the worst Criminal in the Courtroom.

It's done. Leave it be. If an opportunity pops up, jump on it but dimocrap FILTH are nothing more than Mobsters. Gangsters with half the Judiciary being paid off by them.

Giuseppe "Joe the Boss" Masseria was famous for dodging convictions. He moved to the United States from Sicily in 1886, aged 16, to escape a murder charge. He and an associate later shot their Mafia boss — and two bystanders, including a child — in front of a police precinct, but the case never made it to court.

Dozens more at the below site. the dimocrap FILTH party is even smarter and more crooked than the worst gangsters. In fact, they ARE the Mafia. The Cosa Nostra. The Mob. The Mob got tired of getting chased around and merged with a very willing dimocrap scum party. Whether you choose to believe that or not is irrelevant. It is just a fact.

Read More: These Mobsters Were Never Brought To Justice - Grunge

 

[ColonelAngus]

This thread is 4 months old. I am over it. FTR.

 

[the watcher]

This thread is 4 months old. I am over it. FTR.

All the crooks in DC have to do is stall for 4 weeks now, and its ancient history. The attention span here is much less than 4 months.

 

[task0778]

If Biden staffers sold autopen pardons, should they be overturned?​

Yeah, sure. IMHO it's an egregious act of misuse of power. BUT - under what law can any court overturn a presidential pardon? An act of Congress maybe, like overturning a veto? How do you prove criminal intent? That's how Hillary got out of trouble with her blatent mishandling of classified data.

 

[ColonelAngus]

It seems bad if illegal BLANKET pardons were handed out by Hunter the crackhead. But what is done is done.

Cool precedent for blanket pardons.

 

[ColonelAngus]

All the crooks in DC have to do is stall for 4 weeks now, and its ancient history. The attention span here is much less than 4 months.

Your post is 35 minutes ago…I lost interest.

 

[sartre play]

Congress has the power to hold hearings, hire investigators, subpoena evidence and witnesses, and refer to the DOJ for prosecution. They could do it if they want to, and fund it themselves. This alleged shit means nothing by itself, and if you want to use the media like that then the media too should investigate it. Seymore Hershe would have gotten to the bottom of it. There has to be at least an illusion of accountability.

Not sure what the difference is between auto pen & executive order??
Are WE not set up to run rules bills laws through our Elected government
using All three branches? & Working together for AMERICA.

 

[JohnDB]

How difficult is it to overturn a fraudulent pardon?...AKA vacate it.

I can sign Bidens name but that doesn't mean it is effectual.

 

[Hellokitty]

Also, should the staffers be concerned about their safety?

If a staffer earning $100,000 gets paid $250,000 for a pardon…that money trail should be easy to uncover. Also, the person pardoned illegally may have a vested interest in the staffer not being able to admit what they did.

Would it be beyond imagination that a pardoned BAD GUY ends up tying off any loose ends of their pardon?

Comer Identifies Biden Staffers Behind Autopen Scandal, Warns Subpoenas Are Coming – [your]NEWS

House Oversight Chair says staffers used autopen to sign pardons, executive orders while Biden was “clearly in mental decline”

yournews.com

Pardons Granted by President Joseph Biden (2021-2025)

www.justice.gov

There are the pardons. Fun to review them.

My guess is staffers most likely had Biden sign off on their use of the auto pen. I doubt Biden knew who was being pardon and why, but that won't matter.
I think if it can be shown staffers received payoffs hopefully they be charged.
I think the pardons will stand unless they can show the auto pen was used without Biden's approval.
There's no way Biden will acknowledge people received pardons without his approval.

 

[westwall]

My guess is staffers most likely had Biden sign off on their use of the auto pen. I doubt Biden knew who was being pardon and why, but that won't matter.
I think if it can be shown staffers received payoffs hopefully they be charged.
I think the pardons will stand unless they can show the auto pen was used without Biden's approval.
There's no way Biden will acknowledge people received pardons without his approval.

Biden had no cognitive ability to approve.