ICE Forcibly Removes Woman Waiting for Emergency Brain Surgery Form Hospital

[RodISHI]

She has been in detention at Prairieland for nearly two years under Obama. Why would they want her back in detention instead getting medical care so she can be deported? It's not likely EL Salvador would take her back even if a judge signed the deportation order.

They don't get a choice in who to take back, they'll take back who we tell them to. That's how that works. We're not little pansy-ass pushovers anymore like under Obama. Or maybe you hadn't noticed?

Here is an available pdf report Document of Amnesty International. Now that she is diagnosed with medical issues International law comes into play. She should have been deported prior to that. She was held in detention because she was considered a flight risk. I would ask what is her family members names? Some of them are also illegals.

The United States doesn't have to answer to Amnesty International or obey any International law.

Does not have to but then we do want out citizens treated in a decent manner when in other countries. I don't see in any of the articles online any mention of anyone talking to El Salvador. Why isn't her own involved making arrangements for her healthcare in El Salvador since her deport order went out months ago?

 

[owebo]

She has been in detention at Prairieland for nearly two years under Obama. Why would they want her back in detention instead getting medical care so she can be deported? It's not likely EL Salvador would take her back even if a judge signed the deportation order.

They don't get a choice in who to take back, they'll take back who we tell them to. That's how that works. We're not little pansy-ass pushovers anymore like under Obama. Or maybe you hadn't noticed?

Here is an available pdf report Document of Amnesty International. Now that she is diagnosed with medical issues International law comes into play. She should have been deported prior to that. She was held in detention because she was considered a flight risk. I would ask what is her family members names? Some of them are also illegals.

The United States doesn't have to answer to Amnesty International or obey any International law.

Does not have to but then we do want out citizens treated in a decent manner when in other countries. I don't see in any of the articles online any mention of anyone talking to El Salvador. Why isn't her own involved making arrangements for her healthcare in El Salvador since her deport order went out months ago?

I am sure El Salvador is trying hard to protect their citizen. It seems democrats want to enslave her here for her vote....

 

[Iceweasel]

Something ain't right about the story. According to the article the woman was "put on the waiting list for emergency surgery". How does that work?

Obamacare.

 

[Flopper]

From the link:

"The agency said in a statement Thursday, “During her stay at the hospital, ICE ensured that she was able to speak to her family and to her attorney by phone. Like all detainees in our care, Ms. Beltran will continue to have access to 24 hour emergency medical care and to any required specialized treatment at an outside facility.’’ The statement also said that a doctor had determined she was stable enough to be discharged and that she will be seen again by a medical specialist next week."


Most of the statements in the article come from her legal team, whose job it is to make ICE look bad.

The only statement given by the hospital seems to contradict the lawyers' statements.

Looks like the hospital already planned to discharge her pending an appointment the following week with a specialist. Any surgery would be scheduled after that appointment.

The actions of ICE does not really make sense. Why would they remove a woman diagnosed with a brain tumor already scheduled for surgery in 3 days to put her in detention? Brain surgery is not a cheap operation, $50,000 to $150,000 and if complications develop, the sky is limit and ICE could be stuck with the costs. And if the woman dies in detention, they're going to be facing one hell of a lawsuit. The sensible thing to do is let the woman have the surgery and then deport her.

BTW when the hospital says a patient is stable it means their condition is not worsening and they can be transported. It does not mean they don't need further care. My grandfather left the emergency room in stable condition and was dead in 48 hours.

Why do they not make sense? You are making assumptions here that I do not think are justified. Why should ICE not remove her from the hospital if she is in stable condition and not required to stay? Staying in emergency care can cost 10,000 dollars or more per day. Considering that the hospital discharged her and cleared it, why would ICE keep her there? What possible reason could they have for not returning her to detention untill the surgery date like any other patient would undergo?

My son has been in numerous surgeries that were under somewhat similar circumstances (minus the detention) and it is quite common to leave the hospital and stay at home until the actual date of the surgery itself with specific instructions on when to come back in. If she was stable there is little to be gained by keeping her in the hospital taking up a bed that someone not stable can use.

The detention center transported her to the hospital because she was sick. Taking the patient out of the hospital when she is on a waiting list for surgery in just a few days makes no sense. It's a 60 mile drive to the hospital from the detention center. It's not like their going to be to deporting a women in a wheelchair with a brain tumor awaiting surgery. Since the center said she will be examined by a doctor next week for treatment options, they certainly aren't planning on brain surgery this weekend.

 

[eflatminor]

Who was paying for this medical treatment?

You?

 

[Reasonable]

Something ain't right about the story. According to the article the woman was "put on the waiting list for emergency surgery". How does that work?

Obamacare.

You mean the Obamacare that is more popular than Putin's Puppet?
That Obamacare?

 

[pwjohn]

A critically ill woman from El Salvador who was awaiting emergency surgery for a brain tumor this weekend was forcibly moved from a Texas hospital to a detention center by federal agents.

Sara Beltran-Hernandez, 26, a mother of two young children, with no known criminal record was bound by her hands and feet and removed by wheelchair from Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth late Wednesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who brought her to a detention facility in Alvarado, Texas.

After being moved, she was not being given any treatment even though her nose continues to bleed and she has told them her head is exploding. This is unacceptable under our Constitution, and unacceptable from a standpoint of basic human rights,” Chris Hamilton said. This woman is critically ill and in severe pain.
Her current condition is unknown.
Federal agents in Texas move hospitalized Salvadoran woman awaiting emergency surgery to a detention facility

What trump is doing here is viscous & evil, and I hope that pos burns in hell for this.

 

[Flopper]

She has been in detention at Prairieland for nearly two years under Obama. Why would they want her back in detention instead getting medical care so she can be deported? It's not likely EL Salvador would take her back even if a judge signed the deportation order.

They don't get a choice in who to take back, they'll take back who we tell them to. That's how that works. We're not little pansy-ass pushovers anymore like under Obama. Or maybe you hadn't noticed?

Here is an available pdf report Document of Amnesty International. Now that she is diagnosed with medical issues International law comes into play. She should have been deported prior to that. She was held in detention because she was considered a flight risk. I would ask what is her family members names? Some of them are also illegals.

The United States doesn't have to answer to Amnesty International or obey any International law.

Does not have to but then we do want out citizens treated in a decent manner when in other countries. I don't see in any of the articles online any mention of anyone talking to El Salvador. Why isn't her own involved making arrangements for her healthcare in El Salvador since her deport order went out months ago?

Has their been a deportation order signed?
I'm not familiar with EL Savador immigration procedures but in order to transport a person to a foreign country, that country must agree to accept the person or the airline will not transport them. A person being deported with a serious medical condition may or may or may not be accepted. There are 23 countries now that are reluctant to take US deportees. They don't necessarily refuse, they just delay approving. If ICE can't deport them in 6 mos of the deportation order, they have to release them.

 

[RodISHI]

She has been in detention at Prairieland for nearly two years under Obama. Why would they want her back in detention instead getting medical care so she can be deported? It's not likely EL Salvador would take her back even if a judge signed the deportation order.

They don't get a choice in who to take back, they'll take back who we tell them to. That's how that works. We're not little pansy-ass pushovers anymore like under Obama. Or maybe you hadn't noticed?

Here is an available pdf report Document of Amnesty International. Now that she is diagnosed with medical issues International law comes into play. She should have been deported prior to that. She was held in detention because she was considered a flight risk. I would ask what is her family members names? Some of them are also illegals.

The United States doesn't have to answer to Amnesty International or obey any International law.

Does not have to but then we do want out citizens treated in a decent manner when in other countries. I don't see in any of the articles online any mention of anyone talking to El Salvador. Why isn't her own involved making arrangements for her healthcare in El Salvador since her deport order went out months ago?

Has their been a deportation order signed?
I'm not familiar with EL Savador immigration procedures but in order to transport a person to a foreign country, that country must agree to accept the person or the airline will not transport them. A person being deported with a serious medical condition may or may or may not be accepted. There are 23 countries now that are reluctant to take US deportees. They don't necessarily refuse, they just delay approving. If ICE can't deport them in 6 mos of the deportation order, they have to release them.

I did not see any reference for the deport order other than it was determined. By whom you'd have to ask ICE or her lawyer.

 

[FA_Q2]

From the link:

"The agency said in a statement Thursday, “During her stay at the hospital, ICE ensured that she was able to speak to her family and to her attorney by phone. Like all detainees in our care, Ms. Beltran will continue to have access to 24 hour emergency medical care and to any required specialized treatment at an outside facility.’’ The statement also said that a doctor had determined she was stable enough to be discharged and that she will be seen again by a medical specialist next week."


Most of the statements in the article come from her legal team, whose job it is to make ICE look bad.

The only statement given by the hospital seems to contradict the lawyers' statements.

Looks like the hospital already planned to discharge her pending an appointment the following week with a specialist. Any surgery would be scheduled after that appointment.

The actions of ICE does not really make sense. Why would they remove a woman diagnosed with a brain tumor already scheduled for surgery in 3 days to put her in detention? Brain surgery is not a cheap operation, $50,000 to $150,000 and if complications develop, the sky is limit and ICE could be stuck with the costs. And if the woman dies in detention, they're going to be facing one hell of a lawsuit. The sensible thing to do is let the woman have the surgery and then deport her.

BTW when the hospital says a patient is stable it means their condition is not worsening and they can be transported. It does not mean they don't need further care. My grandfather left the emergency room in stable condition and was dead in 48 hours.

Why do they not make sense? You are making assumptions here that I do not think are justified. Why should ICE not remove her from the hospital if she is in stable condition and not required to stay? Staying in emergency care can cost 10,000 dollars or more per day. Considering that the hospital discharged her and cleared it, why would ICE keep her there? What possible reason could they have for not returning her to detention untill the surgery date like any other patient would undergo?

My son has been in numerous surgeries that were under somewhat similar circumstances (minus the detention) and it is quite common to leave the hospital and stay at home until the actual date of the surgery itself with specific instructions on when to come back in. If she was stable there is little to be gained by keeping her in the hospital taking up a bed that someone not stable can use.

The detention center transported her to the hospital because she was sick. Taking the patient out of the hospital when she is on a waiting list for surgery in just a few days makes no sense. It's a 60 mile drive to the hospital from the detention center. It's not like their going to be to deporting a women in a wheelchair with a brain tumor awaiting surgery. Since the center said she will be examined by a doctor next week for treatment options, they certainly aren't planning on brain surgery this weekend.

These are assumptions on your part. As I have said, I have been through such things and you are absolutely incorrect. If you are able to be discharged, you are. Then you return when the surgery is going to happen.

 

[Dr Grump]

She came here thinking she would suck off the taxpayers and found out Trump is president and looks after the Citizens and their wallets.

Didn't know you knew her.

 

[ScienceRocks]

This is just sick....Jesus would order these fake Christians to hell rather then look at them for a second.

 

[ScienceRocks]

She came here thinking she would suck off the taxpayers and found out Trump is president and looks after the Citizens and their wallets.

Didn't know you knew her.

Making people don't die a violent death is a bad thing to a conservative. Evil is what they're.

 

[MaryL]

A critically ill woman from El Salvador who was awaiting emergency surgery for a brain tumor this weekend was forcibly moved from a Texas hospital to a detention center by federal agents.

Sara Beltran-Hernandez, 26, a mother of two young children, with no known criminal record was bound by her hands and feet and removed by wheelchair from Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth late Wednesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who brought her to a detention facility in Alvarado, Texas.

After being moved, she was not being given any treatment even though her nose continues to bleed and she has told them her head is exploding. This is unacceptable under our Constitution, and unacceptable from a standpoint of basic human rights,” Chris Hamilton said. This woman is critically ill and in severe pain.
Her current condition is unknown.
Federal agents in Texas move hospitalized Salvadoran woman awaiting emergency surgery to a detention facility

Yet she could have just legally immigrated , and this wouldn't have been a problem to begin with. Think?

 

[Cellblock2429]

A critically ill woman from El Salvador who was awaiting emergency surgery for a brain tumor this weekend was forcibly moved from a Texas hospital to a detention center by federal agents.

Sara Beltran-Hernandez, 26, a mother of two young children, with no known criminal record was bound by her hands and feet and removed by wheelchair from Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth late Wednesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who brought her to a detention facility in Alvarado, Texas.

After being moved, she was not being given any treatment even though her nose continues to bleed and she has told them her head is exploding. This is unacceptable under our Constitution, and unacceptable from a standpoint of basic human rights,” Chris Hamilton said. This woman is critically ill and in severe pain.
Her current condition is unknown.
Federal agents in Texas move hospitalized Salvadoran woman awaiting emergency surgery to a detention facility

/---- Go to Mexico for your $100,000 operation and see what happens you Snowflake

 

[Flopper]

They don't get a choice in who to take back, they'll take back who we tell them to. That's how that works. We're not little pansy-ass pushovers anymore like under Obama. Or maybe you hadn't noticed?

Here is an available pdf report Document of Amnesty International. Now that she is diagnosed with medical issues International law comes into play. She should have been deported prior to that. She was held in detention because she was considered a flight risk. I would ask what is her family members names? Some of them are also illegals.

The United States doesn't have to answer to Amnesty International or obey any International law.

Does not have to but then we do want out citizens treated in a decent manner when in other countries. I don't see in any of the articles online any mention of anyone talking to El Salvador. Why isn't her own involved making arrangements for her healthcare in El Salvador since her deport order went out months ago?

Has their been a deportation order signed?
I'm not familiar with EL Savador immigration procedures but in order to transport a person to a foreign country, that country must agree to accept the person or the airline will not transport them. A person being deported with a serious medical condition may or may or may not be accepted. There are 23 countries now that are reluctant to take US deportees. They don't necessarily refuse, they just delay approving. If ICE can't deport them in 6 mos of the deportation order, they have to release them.

I did not see any reference for the deport order other than it was determined. By whom you'd have to ask ICE or her lawyer.

I ask, because a deportation order is usually issued only days before the transfer. The receiving country will have already agreed to accept the person and the only thing that remains is arranging transportation and informing the receiving country of when the deportee will arrive. ICE does this because a person can not be detained longer than 6 months after the order is signed.

Before the deportation order is issued, an intention to deport is issued, sometimes call a bag and baggage notice which gives the person the time of their deportation and thus time to arrange affairs, pack, and take care of personal business. Of course if the person is in detention, then the intent order doesn't mean much.

Detention, asylum requests, hearing, appeals, and deportation are not public record and the immigration people do have to release any information. Deportation is not consider punishment but rather a change in immigration status. Immigration court is not a criminal court but a civil court. The proceeding are often compared to family court. Just about everything immigration enforcement is unique.

 

[keepitreal]

A critically ill woman from El Salvador who was awaiting emergency surgery for a brain tumor this weekend was forcibly moved from a Texas hospital to a detention center by federal agents.

Sara Beltran-Hernandez, 26, a mother of two young children, with no known criminal record was bound by her hands and feet and removed by wheelchair from Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth late Wednesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who brought her to a detention facility in Alvarado, Texas.

After being moved, she was not being given any treatment even though her nose continues to bleed and she has told them her head is exploding. This is unacceptable under our Constitution, and unacceptable from a standpoint of basic human rights,” Chris Hamilton said. This woman is critically ill and in severe pain.
Her current condition is unknown.
Federal agents in Texas move hospitalized Salvadoran woman awaiting emergency surgery to a detention facility

Whose paying for this?

 

[Tresha91203]

From the link:

"The agency said in a statement Thursday, “During her stay at the hospital, ICE ensured that she was able to speak to her family and to her attorney by phone. Like all detainees in our care, Ms. Beltran will continue to have access to 24 hour emergency medical care and to any required specialized treatment at an outside facility.’’ The statement also said that a doctor had determined she was stable enough to be discharged and that she will be seen again by a medical specialist next week."


Most of the statements in the article come from her legal team, whose job it is to make ICE look bad.

The only statement given by the hospital seems to contradict the lawyers' statements.

Looks like the hospital already planned to discharge her pending an appointment the following week with a specialist. Any surgery would be scheduled after that appointment.

The actions of ICE does not really make sense. Why would they remove a woman diagnosed with a brain tumor already scheduled for surgery in 3 days to put her in detention? Brain surgery is not a cheap operation, $50,000 to $150,000 and if complications develop, the sky is limit and ICE could be stuck with the costs. And if the woman dies in detention, they're going to be facing one hell of a lawsuit. The sensible thing to do is let the woman have the surgery and then deport her.

BTW when the hospital says a patient is stable it means their condition is not worsening and they can be transported. It does not mean they don't need further care. My grandfather left the emergency room in stable condition and was dead in 48 hours.

Why do they not make sense? You are making assumptions here that I do not think are justified. Why should ICE not remove her from the hospital if she is in stable condition and not required to stay? Staying in emergency care can cost 10,000 dollars or more per day. Considering that the hospital discharged her and cleared it, why would ICE keep her there? What possible reason could they have for not returning her to detention untill the surgery date like any other patient would undergo?

My son has been in numerous surgeries that were under somewhat similar circumstances (minus the detention) and it is quite common to leave the hospital and stay at home until the actual date of the surgery itself with specific instructions on when to come back in. If she was stable there is little to be gained by keeping her in the hospital taking up a bed that someone not stable can use.

The detention center transported her to the hospital because she was sick. Taking the patient out of the hospital when she is on a waiting list for surgery in just a few days makes no sense. It's a 60 mile drive to the hospital from the detention center. It's not like their going to be to deporting a women in a wheelchair with a brain tumor awaiting surgery. Since the center said she will be examined by a doctor next week for treatment options, they certainly aren't planning on brain surgery this weekend.

According to the hospital, she was being released awaiting her consultation regarding surgery, not surgery. The actual surgery would likely be scheduled at the consultation. ICE picked her up since she was being released back to where she came from ... the detention facility. While there, she is receiving medical care and has already had the diagnosis verified.

You misunderstood the "emergency" in the lawyers' press release. All hype, no bite.

 

[Flopper]

A critically ill woman from El Salvador who was awaiting emergency surgery for a brain tumor this weekend was forcibly moved from a Texas hospital to a detention center by federal agents.

Sara Beltran-Hernandez, 26, a mother of two young children, with no known criminal record was bound by her hands and feet and removed by wheelchair from Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth late Wednesday by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents who brought her to a detention facility in Alvarado, Texas.

After being moved, she was not being given any treatment even though her nose continues to bleed and she has told them her head is exploding. This is unacceptable under our Constitution, and unacceptable from a standpoint of basic human rights,” Chris Hamilton said. This woman is critically ill and in severe pain.
Her current condition is unknown.
Federal agents in Texas move hospitalized Salvadoran woman awaiting emergency surgery to a detention facility

Whose paying for this?

I would assume the detention center. They are responsible for the medical care of their detainees.

 

[Flopper]

From the link:

"The agency said in a statement Thursday, “During her stay at the hospital, ICE ensured that she was able to speak to her family and to her attorney by phone. Like all detainees in our care, Ms. Beltran will continue to have access to 24 hour emergency medical care and to any required specialized treatment at an outside facility.’’ The statement also said that a doctor had determined she was stable enough to be discharged and that she will be seen again by a medical specialist next week."


Most of the statements in the article come from her legal team, whose job it is to make ICE look bad.

The only statement given by the hospital seems to contradict the lawyers' statements.

Looks like the hospital already planned to discharge her pending an appointment the following week with a specialist. Any surgery would be scheduled after that appointment.

The actions of ICE does not really make sense. Why would they remove a woman diagnosed with a brain tumor already scheduled for surgery in 3 days to put her in detention? Brain surgery is not a cheap operation, $50,000 to $150,000 and if complications develop, the sky is limit and ICE could be stuck with the costs. And if the woman dies in detention, they're going to be facing one hell of a lawsuit. The sensible thing to do is let the woman have the surgery and then deport her.

BTW when the hospital says a patient is stable it means their condition is not worsening and they can be transported. It does not mean they don't need further care. My grandfather left the emergency room in stable condition and was dead in 48 hours.

Why do they not make sense? You are making assumptions here that I do not think are justified. Why should ICE not remove her from the hospital if she is in stable condition and not required to stay? Staying in emergency care can cost 10,000 dollars or more per day. Considering that the hospital discharged her and cleared it, why would ICE keep her there? What possible reason could they have for not returning her to detention untill the surgery date like any other patient would undergo?

My son has been in numerous surgeries that were under somewhat similar circumstances (minus the detention) and it is quite common to leave the hospital and stay at home until the actual date of the surgery itself with specific instructions on when to come back in. If she was stable there is little to be gained by keeping her in the hospital taking up a bed that someone not stable can use.

The detention center transported her to the hospital because she was sick. Taking the patient out of the hospital when she is on a waiting list for surgery in just a few days makes no sense. It's a 60 mile drive to the hospital from the detention center. It's not like their going to be to deporting a women in a wheelchair with a brain tumor awaiting surgery. Since the center said she will be examined by a doctor next week for treatment options, they certainly aren't planning on brain surgery this weekend.

According to the hospital, she was being released awaiting her consultation regarding surgery, not surgery. The actual surgery would likely be scheduled at the consultation. ICE picked her up since she was being released back to where she came from ... the detention facility. While there, she is receiving medical care and has already had the diagnosis verified.

You misunderstood the "emergency" in the lawyers' press release. All hype, no bite.

I think emergency can mean a lot things. You're right there is a lot hype. I've read all media releases and there is a lot BS in them but one seems clear. This lady is going to need surgery to survive and even that may not save her.