ICE arrests Palestinian activist who helped lead Columbia University protests, his lawyer says


Trying to assert his rights to be a disruptive citizen when he isn’t and thus does not have full constitutional rights
We don’t just grin and nod and sit back while you advocate our destruction
 

Well, we know now that Khalil is a British spy. Why would the Brits send one of their spies to The United States to start shit by promoting terrorism?

Getting deported might be the least of his problems. He might be looking at an espionage charge.
 
Well, we know now that Khalil is a British spy. Why would the Brits send one of their spies to The United States to start shit by promoting terrorism?

Getting deported might be the least of his problems. He might be looking at an espionage charge.
Erm, John Lennon died in 1980 and his immigration lawyer died last year.
 
I'm not, actually, and your inability to distinguish my defending the constitution, which affords due process to everyone under it's jurisdiction, which includes a green card holder, and 'supporting terrorism', speaks to your ignorance. Your sentiment is a sibling of those mobs who jump to conclusions and lynch someone without due process. Not precisely the same, but a distant cousin of the same sentiment.

Thus, you are falling prey to the time-honored tradition of conflating legal principle with personal endorsement, which is a logical fallacy. But let’s not pretend this is about protecting anyone’s children; it’s about defending the Constitution from the kind of emotional, reactionary authoritarianism that history has never looked kindly upon.

See, j-mac, You don’t get to pick and choose when due process applies based on your personal disgust. The law either stands on principle, or it crumbles under the weight of political hysteria. And as for “activist judges,” that’s just the term you use when the courts rule against your preferred brand of government overreach. You might be comfortable with the executive branch wielding unchecked power to silence dissent, but the Supreme Court--yes, even this one--has been quite clear that the First Amendment does not hinge on whether speech makes you uncomfortable.

If the government has a case, let them prove it in court. If your position were as airtight as you pretend, you wouldn’t need to smear legal process as a favor to “terrorist supporters”--you’d simply let the law speak for itself. But you won’t, because deep down, you suspect that when the matter is actually tested, the government’s case may not be the ironclad inevitability you desperately wish it to be. And that, more than your overwrought fearmongering, is why this fight matters. However, somehow, I suspect this concept will go right over your head, right?

You know it better than I do. You're just applying your 'Public Defender' mantra.

It doesn't work
 
Trying to assert his rights to be a disruptive citizen when he isn’t and thus does not have full constitutional rights
We don’t just grin and nod and sit back while you advocate our destruction
Again, John Lennon is dead.
 

You know it better than I do. You're just applying your 'Public Defender' mantra.

It doesn't work
It's hard to point out the many ways in which you are wrong. A visa is an invitation by the State Department to stay in this country under certain conditions. Those Conditions are set by the State Department. Incitement to violence is prohibited conduct. Withdrawing that invitation doesn't deny anyone due process since there never was a right to protect.

A person on a student visa is deportable when they are no longer students. A person on a fiancee visa is deported when they aren't in love anymore. No court action is necessary for the State Department to withdraw a visa. It's done hundreds of times a day.
 
Boycotts are speech, actually. Protected by the first amendment.

Trump thinks they’re illegal. At least, they’re illegal when targeted at his buddies.

Another attack on free speech.
I doubt that…but ok…what you want me to do about it?
 
So ******* what?
You're a vacant ******* dunce, that's what.

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If that is true, find, let due process take it's just course. I"m all in for due process.
It is an accepted tenet of the State Dept that if a Green Card holder wouldn't have have passed an admissibility test due to actions at or prior to the time of his request (sorry that's so convoluted. I flunked writing), he is subject to deportation if he commits those infractions while in the US.

A person who led protests and riots (yes, they were) in another Country and applied for a passport to the US, would be denied.

So if a person comes here on a Visa, gets a Green Card and his actions are of the sort that would have prevented him from getting a Visa in the first place, he can be deported.

The Court, in this case, is just dotting the I's and crossing the T's. Meanwhile, he's cooling his heels somewhere. Probably Louisiana.
 
Trump said blocking access to an abortion clinic shouldn’t be prosecuted.

That’s why he pardoned them.

By the federal government. The locals can prosecute them but not with 10 years of prison time as a result.
 
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