ICE arresting more innocent people than criminals. Up 800% more under Trump!

[Orangecat]

Yes I do. Did you not understand it was a question

I understand that you look stupid when you don’t use one.

 

[Lesh]

Once again son I have never claimed that they do or don’t. I will say that Social security has to keep track of money going into an account. I would think there would be a problem if they could not account for money that was supposed to go into an account if the account did not exist or the owner had been declared dead

You don’t think. That’s the problem. Your argument was rebutted before you made it

 

[Lesh]

They have to place that money into an account. So yes they do care. They can not just throw it into a bin. Accountants do not work that way. You can contact Social security and they will give you an earnings statement for every year you worked. Why because your social security, when you begin to collect it is based of your earnings. You also have to have worked a minimum number of years.

Hey dumbshit, none of that has to do with checking whether those “accounts “ belong to legit citizens.

 

[Mac-7]

Hey dumbshit, none of that has to do with checking whether those “accounts “ belong to legit citizens.

The federal government must guarantee that benefits go only to legal receiptents

Dont you agree?

 

[Lesh]

The federal government must guarantee that benefits go only to legal receiptents

Dont you agree?

And they do . There is very little fraud in the system.

Almost without exceptions, those working using fraudulent SS numbers never receive benefits

 

[Mac-7]

And they do . There is very little fraud in the system.

Almost without exceptions, those working using fraudulent SS numbers never receive benefits

its more accurate to say there is no fraud that you are aware of

 

[Maxdeath]

You don’t think. That’s the problem. Your argument was rebutted before you made it

Look I get it you want to pretend laws are something you can choose to ignore without consequences. The problem is only in your imagination does that occur.

 

[Maxdeath]

Hey dumbshit, none of that has to do with checking whether those “accounts “ belong to legit citizens.

So you are claiming that someone can funnel money into a fake account and no one will know?

 

[Lesh]

So you are claiming that someone can funnel money into a fake account and no one will know?

Weird characterization.

Illegals get jobs using bogus social security numbers. Money is taken out of their paychecks and is rarely if ever identified as such.

Almost without exception, they never draw off that like people with legit SS numbers do

It’s actually a “win” for the system

Got it now? Good. Go away

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And they do . There is very little fraud in the system.

Almost without exceptions, those working using fraudulent SS numbers never receive benefits

Illegal aliens should never receive benefits.

 

[Maxdeath]

Weird characterization.

Illegals get jobs using bogus social security numbers. Money is taken out of their paychecks and is rarely if ever identified as such.

Almost without exception, they never draw off that like people with legit SS numbers do

It’s actually a “win” for the system

Got it now? Good. Go away

if illegals are using fake social security numbers then they will not be able to use them very long. That being said the idiot Obama made the Social Security Administration stop sending out no match letters. These are letters where a name and social security number do not match. Before that time it happened and employers would either fire the worker or request they produce a proper number. Now the Supreme Court is having to take up the issue of illegals that use someones social security number and the illegals name, if they have created identity theft.
No one but you is claiming they are getting any benefits. But yet again you pretend that the law against someone entering the U.S. illegally and being paid slave wages is a win.

 

[Lesh]

if illegals are using fake social security numbers then they will not be able to use them very long. That being said the idiot Obama made the Social Security Administration stop sending out no match letters. These are letters where a name and social security number do not match. Before that time it happened and employers would either fire the worker or request they produce a proper number. Now the Supreme Court is having to take up the issue of illegals that use someones social security number and the illegals name, if they have created identity theft.
No one but you is claiming they are getting any benefits. But yet again you pretend that the law against someone entering the U.S. illegally and being paid slave wages is a win.

You’re making claims that you don’t substantiate

Do better

 

[Maxdeath]

You’re making claims that you don’t substantiate

Do better

I get it you think exploitation of people is fine. You think overlooking laws are fine if you get to exploit people.
Unfortunately most do not feel that way

 

[Rambunctious]

If you are here illegally you are not INNOCENT!!!!!!! go home with the thousand bucks from the feds and apply for legal entry...

 

[San Souci]

AI Overview

In fiscal year 2025 (starting October 1, 2024), ICE has arrested a significant number of individuals with no criminal convictions. Data from June indicates that 65% of the over 204,000 people booked into detention had no criminal convictions, according to the Cato Institute. Furthermore, over 93% of those detained had no history of violent offenses, according to the American Immigration Council.

Human and legal rights are being thrown out the window by the Trump administration.

AI Overview

Based on recent news reports and statements from civil rights and human rights organizations, there are concerns and allegations regarding the Trump administration's approach to human and legal rights in 2025. These include:

• Immigration Enforcement: The administration has been accused of adopting policies that disregard due process for immigrants and asylum seekers, including expanding immigration enforcement to target foreign nationals, particularly students and researchers, attempting to end birthright citizenship via executive order, and carrying out mass deportations and raids. A former Department of Justice lawyer, Erez Reuveni, has also accused the Trump administration of ignoring court rulings and pressuring attorneys to prioritize the President's agenda over ethical obligations in deportation cases.
• • Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI): The administration has moved to terminate grants related to DEI programs and prohibit federally-funded entities from engaging in such initiatives, prompting legal challenges.
  • Housing Discrimination: The Department of Housing and Urban Development is reportedly preparing to shut down investigations into housing discrimination and segregation cases.
  • Education: There are concerns about the Trump administration's dismantling of the Education Department's civil rights division and attacks on academic freedom and free expression at universities.
• Targeting of Critics:
  • Law Firms: Some law firms have been targeted with executive orders, facing sanctions like revoked security clearances and restricted access to federal buildings, for their pro bono work or associations with investigations involving President Trump.
  • Media and NGOs: There are concerns about undermining press freedom and the critical role of independent media. The administration has also cut funding to organizations supporting human rights defenders and independent journalists.

Is losing your rights to freedom and justice something that you want? If by any chance, you personally (or a member of your family) get arrested and thrown in jail (or worse, deported) without any chance of defending yourself, would you still be a Trump supporter?

By the way and for all of you that accuse these OP's as being TDS, may I remind you that Trump is doing things that no other U.S. president has done? He is changing the U.S. in ways that are against what our Constitution was built on. Do you honestly think that it should be ignored and Trump allowed to do it, without trying to change it (to the nth degree)?

All Illegals are Criminals since they violated our immigration laws.

 

[sealybobo]

Lesh. THe immigration issue is very clear. MAGA wants to deport the illegals and leftards like yourself want to let them ALL stay.


DUring the election you did not support Trump because you thought he was only going to be going after VIOLENT illegals, you opposed him because you thought he would be going after any illegals.


So, all your whining about the details is just shit talk, from a shit talking leftrard.

You may want to deport the illegals but Trump is just playing wack a mole to please you. He's not going to ever stop this. I showed you he said this before well he's back to saying it again

Trump appeared on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” and was acknowledging that his crackdown on immigration has impacted U.S. agriculture, when he assured viewers that American farmers will get to keep these “very special people.”

“We can’t let our farmers not have anybody,” he said. “You know … these people, you can’t replace them very easily. You know, people that live in the inner city are not doing that work. They’re just not doing that work. And they’ve tried, we’ve tried, everybody tried.”
“These people do it naturally — naturally,” Trump said of the migrant laborers. “I said … to a farmer the other day, ‘What happens if they get a bad back?’ He said, ‘They don’t get a bad back, sir, because if they get a bad back, they die.’ I said that’s interesting, isn’t it?”

“In many ways they’re very, very special people,” the president concluded.

The comment reminds us of antebellum justifications for slave labor, when proponents used baseless science to claim Black people had a higher tolerance for heat, pain and physically strenuous work — and thus weren’t suited for much else.

 

[Rambunctious]

You may want to deport the illegals but Trump is just playing wack a mole to please you. He's not going to ever stop this. I showed you he said this before well he's back to saying it again

Trump appeared on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” and was acknowledging that his crackdown on immigration has impacted U.S. agriculture, when he assured viewers that American farmers will get to keep these “very special people.”

“We can’t let our farmers not have anybody,” he said. “You know … these people, you can’t replace them very easily. You know, people that live in the inner city are not doing that work. They’re just not doing that work. And they’ve tried, we’ve tried, everybody tried.”
“These people do it naturally — naturally,” Trump said of the migrant laborers. “I said … to a farmer the other day, ‘What happens if they get a bad back?’ He said, ‘They don’t get a bad back, sir, because if they get a bad back, they die.’ I said that’s interesting, isn’t it?”

“In many ways they’re very, very special people,” the president concluded.

The comment reminds us of antebellum justifications for slave labor, when proponents used baseless science to claim Black people had a higher tolerance for heat, pain and physically strenuous work — and thus weren’t suited for much else.

Write your dem congressman and tell him or her to get off their ass and work with republicans on a work transfer immigration bill... we use to have migrant visas for agriculture and we can do it again... but dems have to stop playing political games with it....

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You may want to deport the illegals but Trump is just playing wack a mole to please you. He's not going to ever stop this. I showed you he said this before well he's back to saying it again

Trump appeared on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” and was acknowledging that his crackdown on immigration has impacted U.S. agriculture, when he assured viewers that American farmers will get to keep these “very special people.”

“We can’t let our farmers not have anybody,” he said. “You know … these people, you can’t replace them very easily. You know, people that live in the inner city are not doing that work. They’re just not doing that work. And they’ve tried, we’ve tried, everybody tried.”
“These people do it naturally — naturally,” Trump said of the migrant laborers. “I said … to a farmer the other day, ‘What happens if they get a bad back?’ He said, ‘They don’t get a bad back, sir, because if they get a bad back, they die.’ I said that’s interesting, isn’t it?”

“In many ways they’re very, very special people,” the president concluded.

The comment reminds us of antebellum justifications for slave labor, when proponents used baseless science to claim Black people had a higher tolerance for heat, pain and physically strenuous work — and thus weren’t suited for much else.

Trump appeared on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” and was acknowledging that his crackdown on immigration has impacted U.S. agriculture, when he assured viewers that American farmers will get to keep these “very special people.”

So, we give 1,000,000 farmworker temporary visas while we're kicking out 20 million illegal aliens.

 

[Correll]

You may want to deport the illegals but Trump is just playing wack a mole to please you. He's not going to ever stop this. I showed you he said this before well he's back to saying it again

Trump appeared on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” and was acknowledging that his crackdown on immigration has impacted U.S. agriculture, when he assured viewers that American farmers will get to keep these “very special people.”

“We can’t let our farmers not have anybody,” he said. “You know … these people, you can’t replace them very easily. You know, people that live in the inner city are not doing that work. They’re just not doing that work. And they’ve tried, we’ve tried, everybody tried.”
“These people do it naturally — naturally,” Trump said of the migrant laborers. “I said … to a farmer the other day, ‘What happens if they get a bad back?’ He said, ‘They don’t get a bad back, sir, because if they get a bad back, they die.’ I said that’s interesting, isn’t it?”

“In many ways they’re very, very special people,” the president concluded.

The comment reminds us of antebellum justifications for slave labor, when proponents used baseless science to claim Black people had a higher tolerance for heat, pain and physically strenuous work — and thus weren’t suited for much else.

Except. for your analogy to be true, the moles would have to be coming back.

And they are not. THe border is secure.

So, sure, he is leaving the farming illegals for now and focusing elsewhere.


That is fine. As long as the issue is being seriously addressed, finally, I am happy.

the details are not a big concern.

 

[sealybobo]

Trump appeared on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” and was acknowledging that his crackdown on immigration has impacted U.S. agriculture, when he assured viewers that American farmers will get to keep these “very special people.”

So, we give 1,000,000 farmworker temporary visas while we're kicking out 20 million illegal aliens.

Lets see how they handle this. My bet is they just don't raid farms, HOTELS and restaurants. Temporary visas means legal then the workers have rights to organize and all that shit. You are gullible.

The only thing you can give Trump for is the end of refuges flooding the border. They can no longer come here that way. But illegals will continue. Most of them will never see ICE. Trump raids a few business' in liberal cities. They can't even find any so they go to Home Depot to pick on people with accents.

Let's see this program of temporary visas be rolled out. How many of the 10 million illegals here work on farms, hotels and restaurants? 9 million? LOL