Zone1 Ibram X Kendi is right about antiracist discrimination

[ThomasSowellsFro]

IXK has said " the only remedy to racist discrimination is anti racist discrimination" and he's totally correct. What other solution do you have that specifically redresses white privilege and racism? The only solutions you hear from the non far left, are platitudes and things that have nothing to do with specifically addressing Racism.



The socialists talk about giving everyone free college(has nothing to do with alleviating racism); the Conservatives talk of the platitudes of meritocracy. The platitudes of Meritocracy and color blindness are even more racist than what ibram is advocating for, because we've already seen the results of it, and it was/is a complete disaster for non whites. Without a black box to keep everything in line, they are just platitudes and a proxy for racism.


So, inevitably you'd have to get very specific. If they are discriminating against non whites, the only solution is to mandate less whites and more poc. We've already established that Meritocracy is racist, so I don't see a good argument as to why I wouldn't as a poc support what ibram is advocating, even if it is racist. Why would I pick a racist system that doesn't benefit me over a racist system that does benefit me? The lesser.of two evils.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

We've already established that Meritocracy is racist

You are talking about the N.B.A., I assume?

 

[ThomasSowellsFro]

You are talking about the N.B.A., I assume?

NBA is merit based. If you're gonna claim it isn't, that's up to you to provide the science for.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

NBA is merit based. If you're gonna claim it isn't, that's up to you to provide the science for.

you just said that meritocracy is racist.

which is it, kid?

 

[Meathead]

IXK has said " the only remedy to racist discrimination is anti racist discrimination" and he's totally correct. What other solution do you have that specifically redresses white privilege and racism? The only solutions you hear from the non far left, are platitudes and things that have nothing to do with specifically addressing Racism.



The socialists talk about giving everyone free college(has nothing to do with alleviating racism); the Conservatives talk of the platitudes of meritocracy. The platitudes of Meritocracy and color blindness are even more racist than what ibram is advocating for, because we've already seen the results of it, and it was/is a complete disaster for non whites. Without a black box to keep everything in line, they are just platitudes and a proxy for racism.


So, inevitably you'd have to get very specific. If they are discriminating against non whites, the only solution is to mandate less whites and more poc. We've already established that Meritocracy is racist, so I don't see a good argument as to why I wouldn't as a poc support what ibram is advocating, even if it is racist. Why would I pick a racist system that doesn't benefit me over a racist system that does benefit me? The lesser.of two evils.

At the end of the day, you have to ask how you can make blacks successful. As with everywhere else in the world, there is no answer. The problem goes very deep inherently. Alas, it is the way of things.

 

[ThomasSowellsFro]

At the end of the day, you have to ask how you can make blacks successful. As with everywhere else in the world, there is no answer. The problem goes very deep inherently. Alas, it is the way of things.

Success and racism aren't mutually exclusive. To experience success does not preclude racism. I rebuke racism in any occurrence.

 

[ThomasSowellsFro]

you just said that meritocracy is racist.

which is it, kid?

There's always the exception to the rule.

 

[Meathead]

Success and racism aren't mutually exclusive. To experience success does not preclude racism. I rebuke racism in any occurrence.

You could keep all these AA programs, give every black in the world a million bucks and I guarantee that within a generation 90+% of them would be back to the universal failures they have always been.

There are no answers. The fault is in the stars, not ourselves.

 

[ThomasSowellsFro]

You could keep all these AA programs, give every black in the world a million bucks and I guarantee that within a generation 90+% of them would be back to the universal failures they have always been.

There are no answers. The fault is in the stars, not ourselves.

No they wouldn't, because I'm not talking about giving anyone anything they don't deserve. I'm talking of true meritocracy. If there are less blacks in Harvard or in Nasa because of true meritocracy, I'd prefer that. But what you have is white Affirmative Action, and have so for centuries. It obfuscates everything.

 

[Meathead]

No they wouldn't, because I'm not talking about giving anyone anything they don't deserve. I'm talking of true meritocracy. If there are less blacks in Harvard or in Nasa because of true meritocracy, I'd prefer that. But what you have is white Affirmative Action, and have so for centuries. It obfuscates everything.

Makes no difference. Black failure is global even where there are no or few whites. In fact the most successful blacks in the world are in the US, and even there they are, by-and-large, abject failures.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

There's always the exception to the rule.

Have you ever considered just becoming an adult, instead?