I will not Bow!

[SAYIT]

Jewish children are not taught that. Stop lying

Lying? For what. I don’t intend to change any minds here. I may post something I am incorrect about but think is valid. In which case I’ll admit and mark it as having learned something. I have no reason to ever lie.

As far as what you are referring to: I’m basing it on observation. The over treatment the fellow indigenous population.

Secondly, is the foundation of Judaism based on the Old Testament? Are some if not most Israelis taught the Old Testament in a literal sense. “This Land is Mine, God Gave it to Me” because it says so right here.
Does the story of “God” suggesting Sarah’s maid go get knocked up from her husband only to have a change of heart and allow her to get knocked up set the stage for the justifying why it’s OK to take land?

I’ve read the Bible but do not claim to be an expert. Therefore I could be wrong but I was under the impression this passage was referring to Ishmael.

Genesis 16:12
"He will be a wild donkey of an ass, His hand will be against everyone, And everyone's hand will be against him; And he will live to the east of all his brothers."
I have heard in the past that was a mistranslation. Every Bible I have viewed this story in has the translation as donkey or ass- not fruitful.

Children in Israel are taught the Genesis aren’t they? 1+1=2?

So if Jews are reading that literally as you suggest, Ishmael was a real jackass of a guy. Plenty of you right here on this board. Nowhere does it say Arabs will be donkeys as you suggest. I'd say you're just selling your personal hate for Joooos, Bubba.

 

[RoccoR]

et al,

I'm completely lost!

v/r
R

 

[Ronin]

Jewish children are not taught that. Stop lying

Lying? For what. I don’t intend to change any minds here. I may post something I am incorrect about but think is valid. In which case I’ll admit and mark it as having learned something. I have no reason to ever lie.

As far as what you are referring to: I’m basing it on observation. The over treatment the fellow indigenous population.

Secondly, is the foundation of Judaism based on the Old Testament? Are some if not most Israelis taught the Old Testament in a literal sense. “This Land is Mine, God Gave it to Me” because it says so right here.
Does the story of “God” suggesting Sarah’s maid go get knocked up from her husband only to have a change of heart and allow her to get knocked up set the stage for the justifying why it’s OK to take land?

I’ve read the Bible but do not claim to be an expert. Therefore I could be wrong but I was under the impression this passage was referring to Ishmael.

Genesis 16:12
"He will be a wild donkey of an ass, His hand will be against everyone, And everyone's hand will be against him; And he will live to the east of all his brothers."
I have heard in the past that was a mistranslation. Every Bible I have viewed this story in has the translation as donkey or ass- not fruitful.

Children in Israel are taught the Genesis aren’t they? 1+1=2?

So if Jews are reading that literally as you suggest, Ishmael was a real jackass of a guy. Plenty of you right here on this board. Nowhere does it say Arabs will be donkeys as you suggest. I'd say you're just selling your personal hate for Joooos, Bubba.

SAYIT has spoken. So let it written, so let it be done. The point you are making could fall under the very fallacy you think your pointing out. Aside from my own interpretation any person I have ever discussed this with agrees Ismael symbolizing the "father of All Arabs" also symbolizes the strife his descendants will have. The context seems to suggest that as well. Personally, I think the whole story is bullshit. Personal hate for what? What the **** is or who is Joooos?
Would have been better to say the story of blah blah teaches blah blah instead of the children of Israel.

OK I retract that statement. In Israel nothing but goodwill upon fellow man and love thy neighbor is being taught. Worldwide the Old Testament (folklore) suggests less than favorable conditions to arabs. -Magoo

 

[IlarMeilyr]

No Bowling!

 

[pbel]

et al,

I'm completely lost!

v/r
R

You know Rocco, the Caption and your avatar finally match...You keep arguing legalities when the issue for humanity is Morality. LOL

 

[RoccoR]

pbel,

Everyone has to appreciate those moments when you can laugh at yourself.

et al,

I'm completely lost!

v/r
R

You know Rocco, the Caption and your avatar finally match...You keep arguing legalities when the issue for humanity is Morality. LOL

(COMMENT)

I don't believe that Arab-Palestinian has a set of morals that can be discussed. I tried that once and got no where.

By the way --- thanks for the laugh --- it was a good one!

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

pbel,

Everyone has to appreciate those moments when you can laugh at yourself.

et al,

I'm completely lost!

v/r
R

You know Rocco, the Caption and your avatar finally match...You keep arguing legalities when the issue for humanity is Morality. LOL

(COMMENT)

I don't believe that Arab-Palestinian has a set of morals that can be discussed. I tried that once and got no where.

By the way --- thanks for the laugh --- it was a good one!

Most Respectfully,
R

Wasn't it the Germans that used to say Jews had morals that couldn't be discussed. You sound surprisingly like those old Nazis Rocco, only your target is different.

 

[toastman]

pbel,

Everyone has to appreciate those moments when you can laugh at yourself.

You know Rocco, the Caption and your avatar finally match...You keep arguing legalities when the issue for humanity is Morality. LOL

(COMMENT)

I don't believe that Arab-Palestinian has a set of morals that can be discussed. I tried that once and got no where.

By the way --- thanks for the laugh --- it was a good one!

Most Respectfully,
R

Wasn't it the Germans that used to say Jews had morals that couldn't be discussed. You sound surprisingly like those old Nazis Rocco, only your target is different.

LOL at the Nazi comparison. How incredibly pathetic of you

 

[Kondor3]

"...Wasn't it the Germans that used to say Jews had morals that couldn't be discussed. You sound surprisingly like those old Nazis Rocco, only your target is different."

Listen up, New Meat... Rocco manifests as righteous and open-minded... more objective than 99.99% of Palestinian-Muslim apologist butt-monkeys here... especially the new ones.

 

[P F Tinmore]

pbel,

Everyone has to appreciate those moments when you can laugh at yourself.

You know Rocco, the Caption and your avatar finally match...You keep arguing legalities when the issue for humanity is Morality. LOL

(COMMENT)

I don't believe that Arab-Palestinian has a set of morals that can be discussed. I tried that once and got no where.

By the way --- thanks for the laugh --- it was a good one!

Most Respectfully,
R

Wasn't it the Germans that used to say Jews had morals that couldn't be discussed. You sound surprisingly like those old Nazis Rocco, only your target is different.

You have to excuse Rocco. He thinks that the Palestinians defending their country is aggression.

 

[toastman]

pbel,

Everyone has to appreciate those moments when you can laugh at yourself.


(COMMENT)

I don't believe that Arab-Palestinian has a set of morals that can be discussed. I tried that once and got no where.

By the way --- thanks for the laugh --- it was a good one!

Most Respectfully,
R

Wasn't it the Germans that used to say Jews had morals that couldn't be discussed. You sound surprisingly like those old Nazis Rocco, only your target is different.

You have to excuse Rocco. He thinks that the Palestinians defending their country is aggression.

Defending their country lol!

Can you give me a couple of specific instances of Palestinians defending their 'country'

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Wasn't it the Germans that used to say Jews had morals that couldn't be discussed. You sound surprisingly like those old Nazis Rocco, only your target is different.

You have to excuse Rocco. He thinks that the Palestinians defending their country is aggression.

Defending their country lol!

Can you give me a couple of specific instances of Palestinians defending their 'country'

According to Tinmore: Munich 1972, Entebbe, pushing a wheelchair-bound man into the sea, etc.

 

[toastman]

Suicide bombings

 

[pbel]

Wasn't it the Germans that used to say Jews had morals that couldn't be discussed. You sound surprisingly like those old Nazis Rocco, only your target is different.

You have to excuse Rocco. He thinks that the Palestinians defending their country is aggression.

Defending their country lol!

Can you give me a couple of specific instances of Palestinians defending their 'country'

Resistance to an occupation is noble even if futile...However Abbas has a more portent weapon that has resulted in UN recognition of a Palestinian State: Peace!

 

[toastman]

You have to excuse Rocco. He thinks that the Palestinians defending their country is aggression.

Defending their country lol!

Can you give me a couple of specific instances of Palestinians defending their 'country'

Resistance to an occupation is noble even if futile...However Abbas has a more portent weapon that has resulted in UN recognition of a Palestinian State: Peace!

Did you consider the second intifada to be defending their country

 

[pbel]

Defending their country lol!

Can you give me a couple of specific instances of Palestinians defending their 'country'

Resistance to an occupation is noble even if futile...However Abbas has a more portent weapon that has resulted in UN recognition of a Palestinian State: Peace!

Did you consider the second intifada to be defending their country

If Sharon had not insulted their religion and dignity by bulldozing his way to their Holy Mosque, I would have said no, but Sharon wanted that violence, it was his way...

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

Wow, where did this come from?

pbel,

Everyone has to appreciate those moments when you can laugh at yourself.

You know Rocco, the Caption and your avatar finally match...You keep arguing legalities when the issue for humanity is Morality. LOL

(COMMENT)

I don't believe that Arab-Palestinian has a set of morals that can be discussed. I tried that once and got no where.

By the way --- thanks for the laugh --- it was a good one!

Most Respectfully,
R

Wasn't it the Germans that used to say Jews had morals that couldn't be discussed. You sound surprisingly like those old Nazis Rocco, only your target is different.

(COMMENT)

• I oppose the 1948 Arab Palestinian oath of Genocide against the Jewish People, so I'm a Nazi?

• I oppose the claim that the Arab Palestine has the right to deny the right of self-determination of the Jewish People, so I'm a Nazi?

• I oppose the right of the Arab Palestinian in pursuit of virtual conflict, so I'm a Nazi?

• I oppose the HAMAS call to Jihad, and the Fedayeen thirst for arm struggle, so I'm a Nazi?

• I oppose terrorism in all its forms, to include the Arab Palestinian past history of massacres, piracy, hijackings, suicide bombings, armed attacks against civilian targets, and indiscriminate use of rocket fire across international demarcation lines, so I'm a Nazi?

• I oppose the Palestinian entitlement To Attack Embassies, Interests, And Officials Worldwide – and so, I'm the Nazi?

If what I believe (according to our friend "montelatici") are what it means to be a Nazi, then I'm guilty! I supporting the peaceful resolution, and so I must be a Nazi?

I support the ideals that:

• Arab Palestinians shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity and political independence of the State of Israel, which the Palestinians have demonstrated they do not.

• The Arab Palestinian must settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered, which the Palestinians have demonstrated they do not.

• The Arab Palestinians have the duty to refrain from propaganda for wars of aggression, including that directed at the State of Israel.

Yes, I must certainly sound like a "old Nazi" as our friend "montelatici" implies. All these things are morally reprehensible and I should be drawn and quartered.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[toastman]

Resistance to an occupation is noble even if futile...However Abbas has a more portent weapon that has resulted in UN recognition of a Palestinian State: Peace!

Did you consider the second intifada to be defending their country

If Sharon had not insulted their religion and dignity by bulldozing his way to their Holy Mosque, I would have said no, but Sharon wanted that violence, it was his way...

Suicide bombs in cafes and restaurants and clubs is defending your country?

 

[pbel]

Did you consider the second intifada to be defending their country

If Sharon had not insulted their religion and dignity by bulldozing his way to their Holy Mosque, I would have said no, but Sharon wanted that violence, it was his way...

Suicide bombs in cafes and restaurants and clubs is defending your country?

Again, Sharon was a man of violence and he was probably happy with that horrible act because it pushed his agenda of oppressing the Palestinians...

 

[toastman]

If Sharon had not insulted their religion and dignity by bulldozing his way to their Holy Mosque, I would have said no, but Sharon wanted that violence, it was his way...

Suicide bombs in cafes and restaurants and clubs is defending your country?

Again, Sharon was a man of violence and he was probably happy with that horrible act because it pushed his agenda of oppressing the Palestinians...

Again, you didn't answer my question.