I will not Bow!

[Hossfly]

I was talking about the Iron Dome obviously.

Wow Peebel !!!

Yea forgot about the Hamas defense system of fire cracker control...Even Hamas gets through now and then...

Think Iran, Pakistan and their allies Toast, before Israel becomes Toast!

That scenario is what 50 megaton warheads are designed for.

 

[Roudy]

Israels technology can ...

You mean American Technology, and even that cannot stop them all, remember that when you speak about Tiny Israel Toast.

No he means Isrseli technology, little Mussolini.

 

[P F Tinmore]

...To some extent, our friend "pbel" is correct, the US cannot hope to secularly tame and politically co-opt the such nations as Iraq or Afghanistan. It is inconsistent with the developmental potential of such nations having similar historical profiles...

I agree with this observation myself.

You can defeat an army but it is difficult to defeat a people.

Iraq's army fell in days. That was over ten years ago.

 

[Roudy]

I was talking about the Iron Dome obviously.

Wow Peebel !!!

Yea forgot about the Hamas defense system of fire cracker control...Even Hamas gets through now and then...

Think Iran, Pakistan and their allies Toast, before Israel becomes Toast!

They aren't firecrackers, they're missiles, but if you insist perhaps for the sake of experimentation you'll allow one to land on your house and we can examine the results.

 

[MrMax]

MrMax, et al,

There is a mistake here.

What chance is there of arab unity in any future, it will either be an extremist controlled caliphate with many deaths and illiteracy. Or it will be a moderate modern control that will make friends with all nations and bring an end to terrorism. In either scenario the Palestinians will be destroyed while Israel will be secure behind an IRON WALL

Eventually the Pals will see that it's in their interest to surrender and make peace. It worked wonders for Japan and Germany. Anyways, the different factions of Islam are too busy car bombing each other over who gets to be their pope, to be of any real use to the Pals.

PS America has troops in Saudi Arabia, meaning we own Mecca, the carpet kissing capital of the world.

(COMMENT)

While there may be a few advisors in Saudi Arabia, there are no conventional US combat elements in the Kingdom; especial none - anywhere near - the holiest sites of Islam (Mecca and Medina); none.

The US does not want to, in any way, threaten the holiest sites in Islam. It serves no strategic purpose for American Interests and can only have a negative impact.

The US is gradually changing its strategies from one of a political-military hegemony, to that of a nation with influential economic and commercial resources with networking connections; backed by the umbrella protection of its military. To some extent, our friend "pbel" is correct, the US cannot hope to secularly tame and politically co-opt the such nations as Iraq or Afghanistan. It is inconsistent with the developmental potential of such nations having similar historical profiles.

The US will not have a chance to make a positive impact on the Middle East for several generation, if even then. It needs to back away slowly and let the natural forces of the region seek a balance. However, the political aspirations in America are not likely to understand that concept for quite some time into the future.

Most Respectfully,
R

You're wrong. Who is protecting Mecca? The US. That's who. In other words it's the US' property ultimately to decide who can attack it and who can't.

 

[Roudy]

...To some extent, our friend "pbel" is correct, the US cannot hope to secularly tame and politically co-opt the such nations as Iraq or Afghanistan. It is inconsistent with the developmental potential of such nations having similar historical profiles...

I agree with this observation myself.

You can defeat an army but it is difficult to defeat a people.

Iraq's army fell in days. That was over ten years ago.

The Palestinians aren't a people, they're a made up identity as of 1967 who didn't even have a country or separate culture before that. They're just bloodthirsty Arabs who got stuck in the middle, when their Arab brethren decided to destroy Israel unsuccessfully, many times.

 

[pbel]

Yea forgot about the Hamas defense system of fire cracker control...Even Hamas gets through now and then...

Think Iran, Pakistan and their allies Toast, before Israel becomes Toast!

That scenario is what 50 megaton warheads are designed for.

I agree with you and that's exactly what will happen if Israel is not accepted into the neighborhood.

I read somewhere, that when a reporter asked an Islamic fighter why he thought they would defeat the Western Zionist invader who was so strong? His reply: they fear death, we welcome it...

 

[montelatici]

Yea forgot about the Hamas defense system of fire cracker control...Even Hamas gets through now and then...

Think Iran, Pakistan and their allies Toast, before Israel becomes Toast!

That scenario is what 50 megaton warheads are designed for.

That is why Iran wants nukes and why Pakistan has got some BMs turned away from India and towards Israel.

Not a great environment to be in.

 

[Kondor3]

That scenario is what 50 megaton warheads are designed for.

I agree with you and that's exactly what will happen if Israel is not accepted into the neighborhood.

I cannot foresee circumstances in which either Iran nor Pakistan will risk Nuclear War against Israel.

I read somewhere, that when a reporter asked an Islamic fighter why he thought they would defeat the Western Zionist invader who was so strong? His reply: they fear death, we welcome it...

No doubt.

We welcome death for them as well, and help them to find it, at every opportunity.

 

[Kondor3]

LMAO...Walls can't stop Rockets...

True.

But massive-overkill -caliber counterstrikes can.

Which may be what gets served-up next.

Designed to make prior counterstrikes look like love-taps by comparison.

 

[pbel]

I agree with you and that's exactly what will happen if Israel is not accepted into the neighborhood.

I cannot foresee circumstances in which either Iran nor Pakistan will risk Nuclear War against Israel.

I read somewhere, that when a reporter asked an Islamic fighter why he thought they would defeat the Western Zionist invader who was so strong? His reply: they fear death, we welcome it...

No doubt.

We welcome death for them as well, and help them to find it, at every opportunity.

You know, the same thing was said about Castro's rebels in Cuba in the Godfather movie, I think it was Lansky..."you can not defeat a people who are willing to die for their cause."

We shall see.

 

[Phoenall]

Provide a link, or is this another lie?

Like this

Criticism of the BBC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Criticism of the BBC's Middle East coverage from supporters of both Israel and Palestine led the BBC to commission an investigation and report from a senior broadcast journalist Malcolm Balen, referred to as the Balen Report and completed in 2004. The BBC's refusal to release the report under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 resulted in a long-running and ongoing legal case.[40][41] This led to speculation that the report was damning, as well as to accusations of hypocrisy, as the BBC frequently made use itself of Freedom of Information Act requests when researching news stories

That has nothing to do with the popularity poll of nations that BBC undertakes yearly.

You mean the two question poll that is heavily weighted against Israel. The fact is the BBC is an ANTI SEMITIC organisation and needs to be shut down saving the UK £billions

 

[Phoenall]

What can Israel do to stop the march of History? She cannot occupy the Arab Peninsula...Like America who easily defeats Stick&Stone armies, she cannot defeat a nation as Iraq and Afghanistan have shown...In this conflict of Civilizations, American and Israeli Victories are shallow and Pyrrhic.

What chance is there of arab unity in any future, it will either be an extremist controlled caliphate with many deaths and illiteracy. Or it will be a moderate modern control that will make friends with all nations and bring an end to terrorism. In either scenario the Palestinians will be destroyed while Israel will be secure behind an IRON WALL[/QUOTE]

LMAO...Walls can't stop Rockets...

They do if they are big enough and technologically advanced . I live very close to the Dew Line station that can pinpoint a missiles point of take off and send interceptors at them within seconds. I believe that Israel are far more advanced than this with Iron Dome.

 

[Phoenall]

Israels technology can ...

You mean American Technology, and even that cannot stop them all, remember that when you speak about Tiny Israel Toast.

Nope the Dew Line is US technology that is decades behind what Israel has developed, and the US is looking to buying Iron Dome from the Israelis

 

[pbel]

You mean American Technology, and even that cannot stop them all, remember that when you speak about Tiny Israel Toast.

Nope the Dew Line is US technology that is decades behind what Israel has developed, and the US is looking to buying Iron Dome from the Israelis

Probably stole our plans and copy as usual then sell to China, that's Israel, our friend...

Remember Pollard!

 

[Phoenall]

I was talking about the Iron Dome obviously.

Wow Peebel !!!

Yea forgot about the Hamas defense system of fire cracker control...Even Hamas gets through now and then...

Think Iran, Pakistan and their allies Toast, before Israel becomes Toast!

How can photo shopped rockets do any harm to anyone, or did you forget about those. As for Pakistan done forget that India is right next door and any rockets from Pakistan will see India's winging their way towards their capital. Iran has far too much on its plate to worry about Israel as things are going bad for them, and they don't want UN sanctions around their necks. Russia is about to be frozen out by the west because of its invasion of the Ukraine and Crimea

 

[Phoenall]

...To some extent, our friend "pbel" is correct, the US cannot hope to secularly tame and politically co-opt the such nations as Iraq or Afghanistan. It is inconsistent with the developmental potential of such nations having similar historical profiles...

I agree with this observation myself.

You can defeat an army but it is difficult to defeat a people.

Iraq's army fell in days. That was over ten years ago.

And then the insurgents from iran flooded in to gain power, why are they still fighting for control after 10 years ?

Don't forget were the muslim messiah will come from

 

[pbel]

Yea forgot about the Hamas defense system of fire cracker control...Even Hamas gets through now and then...

Think Iran, Pakistan and their allies Toast, before Israel becomes Toast!

How can photo shopped rockets do any harm to anyone, or did you forget about those. As for Pakistan done forget that India is right next door and any rockets from Pakistan will see India's winging their way towards their capital. Iran has far too much on its plate to worry about Israel as things are going bad for them, and they don't want UN sanctions around their necks. Russia is about to be frozen out by the west because of its invasion of the Ukraine and Crimea

There are polls available to show that the people of Pakistan view Israel as a greater hate than India. Pakistan, protected Osama, and one car-bomb away from regime change by their Taliban.

Keep dreaming.

 

[Phoenall]

That scenario is what 50 megaton warheads are designed for.

I agree with you and that's exactly what will happen if Israel is not accepted into the neighborhood.

I read somewhere, that when a reporter asked an Islamic fighter why he thought they would defeat the Western Zionist invader who was so strong? His reply: they fear death, we welcome it...

The only Islamic nation with nuclear weapons is Pakistan, and they are old compared to the rest of the world. Next door is one of Israel's friends and their nuclear weapons are relatively new, and are more abundant. So half to Pakistan and half to Iran and the problem is solved. Then the UN sends in the troops to dissuade Pakistan and Iran from ever trying that again. They are both signatories of the UN charter and Geneva conventions and know that nuclear war is not allowed, nor is all out war

 

[MrMax]

I agree with you and that's exactly what will happen if Israel is not accepted into the neighborhood.

I read somewhere, that when a reporter asked an Islamic fighter why he thought they would defeat the Western Zionist invader who was so strong? His reply: they fear death, we welcome it...

The only Islamic nation with nuclear weapons is Pakistan, and they are old compared to the rest of the world. Next door is one of Israel's friends and their nuclear weapons are relatively new, and are more abundant. So half to Pakistan and half to Iran and the problem is solved. Then the UN sends in the troops to dissuade Pakistan and Iran from ever trying that again. They are both signatories of the UN charter and Geneva conventions and know that nuclear war is not allowed, nor is all out war

They're still trying to train donkeys to deliver the weapons.