I will not Bow!

[P F Tinmore]

If she does not want to have the freedom to be an arab women elected to the Knesset and the freedom to speak out, if she want to be a palestinian she is free to leave Israel.

She can be Israeli or she can be palestinian, it is her choice. If arabs want the advantages and freedoms of Israel, they must accept Israel as their nation. If they want to be under hamas or the PA laws and authority they can be palestinian. There is not reason for a palestinian to have Israeli right unless they accept that they are Israeli.

Palestine would not accept someone having a duel citizenship with Israel as one. They can even bring themselves to recognize Israel's right to exist.

Why should she leave her homeland just because the government sucks?

It is not about parties or government. She is talking about national identity. If she does not want to be an Israel, she is free to leave. If she wants to stay and be free to speak against the Israeli government, she can do so as an Israel, not as a palestinian.

Palestine does not want jews or Israeli spouses in their state to be. How should Israel accept someone who identifies as an enemy of Israel and jews?

Except she is living in her homeland. Palestinian Jews can live in Palestine.

 

[toastman]

Why should she leave her homeland just because the government sucks?

It is not about parties or government. She is talking about national identity. If she does not want to be an Israel, she is free to leave. If she wants to stay and be free to speak against the Israeli government, she can do so as an Israel, not as a palestinian.

Palestine does not want jews or Israeli spouses in their state to be. How should Israel accept someone who identifies as an enemy of Israel and jews?

Except she is living in her homeland. Palestinian Jews can live in Palestine.

Palestinian Jews? It's 2014 Tinmore, not 1914.

 

[Phoenall]

Discriminatory Laws in Israel
See site for details.
Adalah - The Legal Center for Arab Minority Rights in Israel

Civil Wrongs Law - Amendment No. 8 (Liability of the State) 1967 Occupied Territories 2012
Criminal Procedure Law - Interrogating Suspects - Amendment No. 6 Criminal Law and Procedures 2012
Income Tax Ordinance - Amendment No. 191 1967 Occupied Territories 2012
Israeli Prisons Ordinance Amendment No. 43 - Prisoner-Attorney Meet... Criminal Law and Procedures 2012
Israeli Prisons Ordinance - Amendment No. 40 (Meetings with Lawyers) Criminal Law and Procedures 2011
"Anti-Boycott Law" - Prevention of Damage to the State of Israel th... Civil and Political Rights 2011
Foreign Property Ownership - Israel Lands Law (Amendment No. 3) Land and Planning Rights 2011
"Admissions Committees Law" - Cooperative Societies Ordinance - Ame... Land and Planning Rights 2011
Citizenship Law - Amendment No. 10 Citizenship 2011
"Nakba Law" - Amendment No. 40 to the Budgets Foundations Law Civil and Political Rights 2011
"Foreign Government Funding Law" - Law on Disclosure Requirements f... Freedom of Association 2011
Law to Strip Payments from a Current or Former Member of Knesset du... Economic Rights 2011
Extension of Detention - Criminal Procedure Law (Suspects of Securi... Criminal Law and Procedures 2010
"Negev Individual Settlements" - Negev Development Authority Law -... Land and Planning Rights 2010
Absorption of Discharged Soldiers Law - Amendment No. 12 Education 2010
Land (Acquisition for Public Purposes) Ordinance - Amendment No. 10 Land and Planning Rights 2010
"Pardon Law" or "Amnesty Law" - Termination of Proceedings and Dele... Civil and Political Rights 2010
Regional Councils Law (Date of General Elections) Special Amendment... Political Participation 2009
Israel Land Administration Law - Amendment No. 7 Land and Planning Rights 2009
National Priority Areas - The Economic Efficiency Law - Legislative... Economic Rights 2009
Child Vaccinations and Child Allowances - Economic Efficiency Law Economic Rights 2009
Absorption of Discharged Soldiers Law - Amendment No. 7: Benefits f... Education 2008
Criminal Procedure Law - Interrogating Suspects - Amendment No. 4 Criminal Law and Procedures 2008
Criminal Procedure Law (Detainee Suspected of Security Offence) (Te... Criminal Law and Procedures 2006
"Ban on Family Unification" - Citizenship and Entry into Israel Law... Citizenship 2003
Law of Political Parties - Amendment No. 12 Political Participation 2002
Use of Hebrew Date Law Culture and Language 1998
Knesset Law Political Participation 1994
Basic Law: The Government Criminal Law and Procedures 1992
Second Authority for Television and Radio Law Culture and Language 1990
The Golan Heights Law 1967 Occupied Territories 1981
Interpretation Law Sources of Law 1981
Public Lands Law (Eviction of Squatters) Land and Planning Rights 1981
Basic Law: Jerusalem, Capital of Israel 1967 Occupied Territories 1980
Foundations of Law Act Sources of Law 1980
Religious Jewish Services Law Religion 1971
Law of Yad Yitzhak Ben-Zvi (1969) and Law of Mikve Israel Agricultu... Culture and Language 1969
Protection of Holy Sites Law Religion 1967
National Planning and Building Law -Limitation of Water, Electricit... Land and Planning Rights 1965
National Planning and Building Law Land and Planning Rights 1965
Broadcasting Authority Law Culture and Language 1965
Basic Law: Israel Lands Land and Planning Rights 1960
Israel Land Administration Law Land and Planning Rights 1960
Basic Law: The Knesset Political Participation 1958
Jewish National Fund Law Land and Planning Rights 1953
State Education Law Education 1953
Land Acquisition Law (Actions and Compensation) Land and Planning Rights 1953
World Zionist Organization-Jewish Agency (Status) Law Culture and Language 1952
Entry into Israel Law Citizenship 1952
Citizenship Law Citizenship 1952
Law of Return Citizenship 1950
Absentees’ Property Law Land and Planning Rights 1950
State Stamp Law National Identity Symbols 1949
Flag and Emblem Law National Identity Symbols 1949
Law and Government Ordinance, Article 18A Religion 1948
Defense Regulations (Times of Emergency), Regulation 125 (Closed Zo... Land and Planning Rights 1945
Trade with the Enemy Ordinance Culture and Language 1939

No big thing Tinmore. It seems those laws apply to everyone, not just Palestinians.

Just what I was thinking as well, so it seems he is just blowing wind

 

[Phoenall]

Haneen Zoabi MK Talks About Israel Apartheid and Lack of Democracy - YouTube

If she does not want to have the freedom to be an arab women elected to the Knesset and the freedom to speak out, if she want to be a palestinian she is free to leave Israel.

She can be Israeli or she can be palestinian, it is her choice. If arabs want the advantages and freedoms of Israel, they must accept Israel as their nation. If they want to be under hamas or the PA laws and authority they can be palestinian. There is not reason for a palestinian to have Israeli right unless they accept that they are Israeli.

Palestine would not accept someone having a duel citizenship with Israel as one. They can even bring themselves to recognize Israel's right to exist.

Why should she leave her homeland just because the government sucks?

Why should she be allowed to stay if she hates the country so much. All nations have laws against sedition and treason. The simple matter is she like all Palestinians want to rule Israel and have the Jews as slaves. Aint gonna happen.

 

[Phoenall]

Why should she leave her homeland just because the government sucks?

It is not about parties or government. She is talking about national identity. If she does not want to be an Israel, she is free to leave. If she wants to stay and be free to speak against the Israeli government, she can do so as an Israel, not as a palestinian.

Palestine does not want jews or Israeli spouses in their state to be. How should Israel accept someone who identifies as an enemy of Israel and jews?

Except she is living in her homeland. Palestinian Jews can live in Palestine.

No they cant as the P.A. have changed the rules again and have said that NO JEW will be allowed to live in Palestine. And by Palestine they mean the arab version of Palestine that includes Israel.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Why should she leave her homeland just because the government sucks?

It is not about parties or government. She is talking about national identity. If she does not want to be an Israel, she is free to leave. If she wants to stay and be free to speak against the Israeli government, she can do so as an Israel, not as a palestinian.

Palestine does not want jews or Israeli spouses in their state to be. How should Israel accept someone who identifies as an enemy of Israel and jews?

Except she is living in her homeland. Palestinian Jews can live in Palestine.

It really pains you to type the word Israel, doesn't it? I don't think you have ever done so.

 

[pbel]

What rights are not shared by non Jewish citizens in Israel? Provide a link too.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEHk1bLJCBw]Haneen Zoabi MK Talks About Israel Apartheid and Lack of Democracy - YouTube[/ame]

Again, what rights are not shared by non Jewish citizens in Israel?
With a valid link, not some video of a woman giving her opinion

Glad you asked.


http://news.yahoo.com/limits-palestinians-living-israeli-spouses-154954962.html

BARTAA, Israel (AP) — When Israeli Arabs search for a spouse, they don't just worry about looks, job prospects or future in-laws. They must think about whether their partner will be allowed to live with them.


The problem is — many Israeli Arabs, who are ethnically Palestinians, want to marry Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza Strip. But relations between the Palestinian territories and Israel are testy at best and violent at worst, resulting in limits that even love can't overcome.

For the past decade, Israel has largely restricted Palestinians from joining their spouses inside the Jewish state, citing security concerns like Palestinian militants using entry permits gained through marriage to carry out attacks in Israel.

Critics charge that the restrictions are discriminatory and that their real aim to try to safeguard Israel's Jewish majority.

For ordinary people, the restrictions have undone countless romances, created stressful living arrangements and frayed family ties.

About 1.6 million Arabs are Israeli citizens. About 4.4 million Palestinians live in the West Bank and Gaza. They are linked by ethnic and family ties, but the lines between Israel and Palestinian areas divide them.

 

[MrMax]

Again, what rights are not shared by non Jewish citizens in Israel?
With a valid link, not some video of a woman giving her opinion

Glad you asked.


http://news.yahoo.com/limits-palestinians-living-israeli-spouses-154954962.html

BARTAA, Israel (AP) — When Israeli Arabs search for a spouse, they don't just worry about looks, job prospects or future in-laws. They must think about whether their partner will be allowed to live with them.


The problem is — many Israeli Arabs, who are ethnically Palestinians, want to marry Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza Strip. But relations between the Palestinian territories and Israel are testy at best and violent at worst, resulting in limits that even love can't overcome.

For the past decade, Israel has largely restricted Palestinians from joining their spouses inside the Jewish state, citing security concerns like Palestinian militants using entry permits gained through marriage to carry out attacks in Israel.

Critics charge that the restrictions are discriminatory and that their real aim to try to safeguard Israel's Jewish majority.

For ordinary people, the restrictions have undone countless romances, created stressful living arrangements and frayed family ties.

About 1.6 million Arabs are Israeli citizens. About 4.4 million Palestinians live in the West Bank and Gaza. They are linked by ethnic and family ties, but the lines between Israel and Palestinian areas divide them.

"Palestinians" just have to surrender unconditionally. Only then will their prospects improve.

 

[pbel]

Again, what rights are not shared by non Jewish citizens in Israel?
With a valid link, not some video of a woman giving her opinion

Glad you asked.


http://news.yahoo.com/limits-palestinians-living-israeli-spouses-154954962.html

BARTAA, Israel (AP) — When Israeli Arabs search for a spouse, they don't just worry about looks, job prospects or future in-laws. They must think about whether their partner will be allowed to live with them.


The problem is — many Israeli Arabs, who are ethnically Palestinians, want to marry Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza Strip. But relations between the Palestinian territories and Israel are testy at best and violent at worst, resulting in limits that even love can't overcome.

For the past decade, Israel has largely restricted Palestinians from joining their spouses inside the Jewish state, citing security concerns like Palestinian militants using entry permits gained through marriage to carry out attacks in Israel.

Critics charge that the restrictions are discriminatory and that their real aim to try to safeguard Israel's Jewish majority.

For ordinary people, the restrictions have undone countless romances, created stressful living arrangements and frayed family ties.

About 1.6 million Arabs are Israeli citizens. About 4.4 million Palestinians live in the West Bank and Gaza. They are linked by ethnic and family ties, but the lines between Israel and Palestinian areas divide them.

"Palestinians" just have to surrender unconditionally. Only then will their prospects improve.

Surrender is not in their vocabulary...They will not bow!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Glad you asked.


http://news.yahoo.com/limits-palestinians-living-israeli-spouses-154954962.html

BARTAA, Israel (AP) — When Israeli Arabs search for a spouse, they don't just worry about looks, job prospects or future in-laws. They must think about whether their partner will be allowed to live with them.


The problem is — many Israeli Arabs, who are ethnically Palestinians, want to marry Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza Strip. But relations between the Palestinian territories and Israel are testy at best and violent at worst, resulting in limits that even love can't overcome.

For the past decade, Israel has largely restricted Palestinians from joining their spouses inside the Jewish state, citing security concerns like Palestinian militants using entry permits gained through marriage to carry out attacks in Israel.

Critics charge that the restrictions are discriminatory and that their real aim to try to safeguard Israel's Jewish majority.

For ordinary people, the restrictions have undone countless romances, created stressful living arrangements and frayed family ties.

About 1.6 million Arabs are Israeli citizens. About 4.4 million Palestinians live in the West Bank and Gaza. They are linked by ethnic and family ties, but the lines between Israel and Palestinian areas divide them.

"Palestinians" just have to surrender unconditionally. Only then will their prospects improve.

Surrender is not in their vocabulary...They will not bow!!!!!!!!!!!

Shame for them then.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Again, what rights are not shared by non Jewish citizens in Israel?
With a valid link, not some video of a woman giving her opinion

Glad you asked.


http://news.yahoo.com/limits-palestinians-living-israeli-spouses-154954962.html

BARTAA, Israel (AP) — When Israeli Arabs search for a spouse, they don't just worry about looks, job prospects or future in-laws. They must think about whether their partner will be allowed to live with them.


The problem is — many Israeli Arabs, who are ethnically Palestinians, want to marry Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza Strip. But relations between the Palestinian territories and Israel are testy at best and violent at worst, resulting in limits that even love can't overcome.

For the past decade, Israel has largely restricted Palestinians from joining their spouses inside the Jewish state, citing security concerns like Palestinian militants using entry permits gained through marriage to carry out attacks in Israel.

Critics charge that the restrictions are discriminatory and that their real aim to try to safeguard Israel's Jewish majority.

For ordinary people, the restrictions have undone countless romances, created stressful living arrangements and frayed family ties.

About 1.6 million Arabs are Israeli citizens. About 4.4 million Palestinians live in the West Bank and Gaza. They are linked by ethnic and family ties, but the lines between Israel and Palestinian areas divide them.

"Palestinians" just have to surrender unconditionally. Only then will their prospects improve.

Why should it be the Palestinians who must surrender?

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Glad you asked.


http://news.yahoo.com/limits-palestinians-living-israeli-spouses-154954962.html

BARTAA, Israel (AP) — When Israeli Arabs search for a spouse, they don't just worry about looks, job prospects or future in-laws. They must think about whether their partner will be allowed to live with them.


The problem is — many Israeli Arabs, who are ethnically Palestinians, want to marry Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza Strip. But relations between the Palestinian territories and Israel are testy at best and violent at worst, resulting in limits that even love can't overcome.

For the past decade, Israel has largely restricted Palestinians from joining their spouses inside the Jewish state, citing security concerns like Palestinian militants using entry permits gained through marriage to carry out attacks in Israel.

Critics charge that the restrictions are discriminatory and that their real aim to try to safeguard Israel's Jewish majority.

For ordinary people, the restrictions have undone countless romances, created stressful living arrangements and frayed family ties.

About 1.6 million Arabs are Israeli citizens. About 4.4 million Palestinians live in the West Bank and Gaza. They are linked by ethnic and family ties, but the lines between Israel and Palestinian areas divide them.

"Palestinians" just have to surrender unconditionally. Only then will their prospects improve.

Why should it be the Palestinians who must surrender?

Ask a silly question, and soon you will get a silly answer.

 

[Phoenall]

Haneen Zoabi MK Talks About Israel Apartheid and Lack of Democracy - YouTube

Again, what rights are not shared by non Jewish citizens in Israel?
With a valid link, not some video of a woman giving her opinion

Glad you asked.


http://news.yahoo.com/limits-palestinians-living-israeli-spouses-154954962.html

BARTAA, Israel (AP) — When Israeli Arabs search for a spouse, they don't just worry about looks, job prospects or future in-laws. They must think about whether their partner will be allowed to live with them.


The problem is — many Israeli Arabs, who are ethnically Palestinians, want to marry Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza Strip. But relations between the Palestinian territories and Israel are testy at best and violent at worst, resulting in limits that even love can't overcome.

For the past decade, Israel has largely restricted Palestinians from joining their spouses inside the Jewish state, citing security concerns like Palestinian militants using entry permits gained through marriage to carry out attacks in Israel.

Critics charge that the restrictions are discriminatory and that their real aim to try to safeguard Israel's Jewish majority.

For ordinary people, the restrictions have undone countless romances, created stressful living arrangements and frayed family ties.

About 1.6 million Arabs are Israeli citizens. About 4.4 million Palestinians live in the West Bank and Gaza. They are linked by ethnic and family ties, but the lines between Israel and Palestinian areas divide them.

Same law applies to Israeli Jews and Israeli Christians wanting to marry those seen as enemies of the state. It is a simple enough matter that is the same in many other countries. Even in the UK we now see that spouses cant get an automatic right of residency and have to be supported by a sponsor.

So try again only this time with an actual racist law that only applies to arab muslims...............

 

[Phoenall]

Glad you asked.


http://news.yahoo.com/limits-palestinians-living-israeli-spouses-154954962.html

BARTAA, Israel (AP) — When Israeli Arabs search for a spouse, they don't just worry about looks, job prospects or future in-laws. They must think about whether their partner will be allowed to live with them.


The problem is — many Israeli Arabs, who are ethnically Palestinians, want to marry Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza Strip. But relations between the Palestinian territories and Israel are testy at best and violent at worst, resulting in limits that even love can't overcome.

For the past decade, Israel has largely restricted Palestinians from joining their spouses inside the Jewish state, citing security concerns like Palestinian militants using entry permits gained through marriage to carry out attacks in Israel.

Critics charge that the restrictions are discriminatory and that their real aim to try to safeguard Israel's Jewish majority.

For ordinary people, the restrictions have undone countless romances, created stressful living arrangements and frayed family ties.

About 1.6 million Arabs are Israeli citizens. About 4.4 million Palestinians live in the West Bank and Gaza. They are linked by ethnic and family ties, but the lines between Israel and Palestinian areas divide them.

"Palestinians" just have to surrender unconditionally. Only then will their prospects improve.

Surrender is not in their vocabulary...They will not bow!!!!!!!!!!!

Then they have lost the support of the rest of the world, and it could come to world wide sanctions on Palestinian goods and aid.

 

[Phoenall]

Glad you asked.


http://news.yahoo.com/limits-palestinians-living-israeli-spouses-154954962.html

BARTAA, Israel (AP) — When Israeli Arabs search for a spouse, they don't just worry about looks, job prospects or future in-laws. They must think about whether their partner will be allowed to live with them.


The problem is — many Israeli Arabs, who are ethnically Palestinians, want to marry Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza Strip. But relations between the Palestinian territories and Israel are testy at best and violent at worst, resulting in limits that even love can't overcome.

For the past decade, Israel has largely restricted Palestinians from joining their spouses inside the Jewish state, citing security concerns like Palestinian militants using entry permits gained through marriage to carry out attacks in Israel.

Critics charge that the restrictions are discriminatory and that their real aim to try to safeguard Israel's Jewish majority.

For ordinary people, the restrictions have undone countless romances, created stressful living arrangements and frayed family ties.

About 1.6 million Arabs are Israeli citizens. About 4.4 million Palestinians live in the West Bank and Gaza. They are linked by ethnic and family ties, but the lines between Israel and Palestinian areas divide them.

"Palestinians" just have to surrender unconditionally. Only then will their prospects improve.

Why should it be the Palestinians who must surrender?

1) they started the violence against the Jews

2) they are the losers in every war

3) the world is sick of their constant mooching rather than working for a living.

 

[pbel]

"Palestinians" just have to surrender unconditionally. Only then will their prospects improve.

Why should it be the Palestinians who must surrender?

Ask a silly question, and soon you will get a silly answer.

Not so silly. Look at it as a game of Chess and the Palestinians as Pawns in a East/West conflict...The King of Saudi Arabia pulling the strings of the Arab League and feigning friendship to Israel...They know that in the end they will win the game of numbers...

Trying to save their own, they keep the conflict going just enough to satisfy the Jihadists.

Israel is very short of Pawns, and the Queen (America), her very strength and protection will soon leave her for her obstinacy in the peace talks.

Check Mate!

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Why should it be the Palestinians who must surrender?

Ask a silly question, and soon you will get a silly answer.

Not so silly. Look at it as a game of Chess and the Palestinians as Pawns in a East/West conflict...The King of Saudi Arabia pulling the strings of the Arab League and feigning friendship to Israel...They know that in the end they will win the game of numbers...

Trying to save their own, they keep the conflict going just enough to satisfy the Jihadists.

Israel is very short of Pawns, and the Queen (America), her very strength and protection will soon leave her for her obstinacy in the peace talks.

Check Mate!

Israel is not obstinate in the peace talks. On the contrary the Palestinians openly admit they are just staying in the talks until the last batch of prisoners are released. And remember, the prisoners release was on condition of the talks starting. What right have the Palestinians to stipulate they will not attend talks unless terrorists are released. And shame, shame on Israel for giving in to the Pals' demands.

 

[Kondor3]

Glad you asked.


http://news.yahoo.com/limits-palestinians-living-israeli-spouses-154954962.html

BARTAA, Israel (AP) — When Israeli Arabs search for a spouse, they don't just worry about looks, job prospects or future in-laws. They must think about whether their partner will be allowed to live with them.


The problem is — many Israeli Arabs, who are ethnically Palestinians, want to marry Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza Strip. But relations between the Palestinian territories and Israel are testy at best and violent at worst, resulting in limits that even love can't overcome.

For the past decade, Israel has largely restricted Palestinians from joining their spouses inside the Jewish state, citing security concerns like Palestinian militants using entry permits gained through marriage to carry out attacks in Israel.

Critics charge that the restrictions are discriminatory and that their real aim to try to safeguard Israel's Jewish majority.

For ordinary people, the restrictions have undone countless romances, created stressful living arrangements and frayed family ties.

About 1.6 million Arabs are Israeli citizens. About 4.4 million Palestinians live in the West Bank and Gaza. They are linked by ethnic and family ties, but the lines between Israel and Palestinian areas divide them.

"Palestinians" just have to surrender unconditionally. Only then will their prospects improve.

Surrender is not in their vocabulary...[SIZE="2][B][I][U][COLOR="Blue"]They will not bow!!!!!!!!!!![/COLOR][/U][/I][/B][/SIZE]

OK.

They can die, then, for all anyone beyond their camp really cares.

They won't be missed.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

"Palestinians" just have to surrender unconditionally. Only then will their prospects improve.

Surrender is not in their vocabulary...[SIZE="2][B][I][U][COLOR="Blue"]They will not bow!!!!!!!!!!![/COLOR][/U][/I][/B][/SIZE]

OK.

They can die, then, for all anyone beyond their camp really cares.

They won't be missed.

They are a drain on the area and the world in general. Best thing for them is to find somewhere else to live.

 

[Kondor3]

Glad you asked.


http://news.yahoo.com/limits-palestinians-living-israeli-spouses-154954962.html

BARTAA, Israel (AP) — When Israeli Arabs search for a spouse, they don't just worry about looks, job prospects or future in-laws. They must think about whether their partner will be allowed to live with them.


The problem is — many Israeli Arabs, who are ethnically Palestinians, want to marry Palestinians from the West Bank or Gaza Strip. But relations between the Palestinian territories and Israel are testy at best and violent at worst, resulting in limits that even love can't overcome.

For the past decade, Israel has largely restricted Palestinians from joining their spouses inside the Jewish state, citing security concerns like Palestinian militants using entry permits gained through marriage to carry out attacks in Israel.

Critics charge that the restrictions are discriminatory and that their real aim to try to safeguard Israel's Jewish majority.

For ordinary people, the restrictions have undone countless romances, created stressful living arrangements and frayed family ties.

About 1.6 million Arabs are Israeli citizens. About 4.4 million Palestinians live in the West Bank and Gaza. They are linked by ethnic and family ties, but the lines between Israel and Palestinian areas divide them.

"Palestinians" just have to surrender unconditionally. Only then will their prospects improve.

Why should it be the Palestinians who must surrender?

When you continue to exist at the discretion of your adversary, you've lost.

Acknowledging that loss allows you continue to live, and to repair the damage, and to move beyond the loss.